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Re: Around the NBA V: Live and Let Die 

Post#541 » by FNQ » Tue May 17, 2022 4:56 am

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Onus wrote:I really can’t see cheap owner Sarver going into the tax for a team that lost game 7 by 50 in the second round. Ayton will probably get signed and traded for draft picks.


It might be the right call.. turn around and use picks/assets to try and get a star to play next to Booker and Bridges. Ayton is a dying breed.. if you draft a player like that, that player has to be elite, or its likely not a good pick. Here are the remaining Cs in the playoffs, 1st and 2nd string, and how they were acquired

Warriors:
Kevon Looney (30th pick)
Nemo (league min)

Mavs:
Dwight Powell (45th pick)
Maxi Kleber (international FA)

Celtics:
Al Horford (traded in a salary dump style move)
Robert Williams (27th pick)

Heat:
Bam (13th pick)
Dewayne Dedmon (league min)

Goes to show we're not immune to bad logic at times - Wiseman will have to become a defensive madman that can play with the closing lineup to even begin to justify it - but the entire league, at least the successful part of it, is moving away from putting significant assets towards the position. And just for fun, lets look at the 4 teams ousted in the 2nd round and their situation

Memphis:
Steven Adams (trade, salary filler, considered a negative contract)
Xaiver Tillman/large Moses Moody (35th pick)
JJJ (4th pick) - listed here even though he's mostly a PF, but should evolve into a C. A rare hit on a big man with early pick

Suns:
Ayton (1st overall)
Javale McGee (FA signing, 2 year 10m)

Bucks:
Bobby Portis (FA signing, 2 year 9m)
Brook Lopez (FA signing 4 year, 52m)

Philly:
Joel Embiid (3rd pick, another rare hit on a big man with an early pick)
DeAndre Jordan (league min)

EVEN if you wind up hitting on a big man, its far from this massive advantage that tilts the scales. Those days are gone. The smart teams are trending towards devaluing the position like the Warriors have for years, a lot of the time, against fan wishes.

Agreed. Way too hard to win with a drop center. Players are too good at shooting off the dribble now.


And right now you can get a big who will do all you need in the mid-late 1st, or if you have a time, a project in the 2nd. Its the easiest way to recoup value.

And then you have teams trading great guard prospects for Sabonis on the other end of the spectrum.

Hell we're playing a team that dumped their big stiff C and is playing great because of it.

This isn't a "where there's smoke, there's fire" situation. Its a "where there's fire, there's fire, open your damn eyes" situation
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Re: Around the NBA V: Live and Let Die 

Post#542 » by Quazza » Wed May 18, 2022 8:00 am

so Vivek had made his pop star daughter assistant GM of the king's G league side


So good
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Re: Around the NBA V: Live and Let Die 

Post#543 » by donkeylips » Wed May 18, 2022 3:16 pm

joe lacob has both his sons working for the warriors.
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Re: Around the NBA V: Live and Let Die 

Post#544 » by wco81 » Wed May 18, 2022 7:49 pm

Horford could miss two more games, or half the series.

But apparently several other members of the Celtics traveling party also tested positive, presumably all none players.

Covid could still have an impact in the playoffs.

Teams and players could pretend players aren't positive but if he has obvious symptoms, he could infect other players.

If they tried to play while coughing, runny noses, etc. can they pull it off?

Other team would object, especially if they suspect key players on the opposing team is positive and could be ruled out for several games.
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Re: Around the NBA V: Live and Let Die 

Post#545 » by watch1958 » Wed May 18, 2022 8:47 pm

Quazza wrote:so Vivek had made his pop star daughter assistant GM of the king's G league side


So good
Sounds like a match for Kirk Lacob
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Re: Around the NBA V: Live and Let Die 

Post#546 » by Coxy » Wed May 18, 2022 8:57 pm

Quazza wrote:so Vivek had made his pop star daughter assistant GM of the king's G league side


So good


I love a good nepotism scandal.
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Re: Around the NBA V: Live and Let Die 

Post#547 » by and1GS » Thu May 19, 2022 1:01 am

watch1958 wrote:
Quazza wrote:so Vivek had made his pop star daughter assistant GM of the king's G league side


So good
Sounds like a match for Kirk Lacob
Fat chance. She looks nothing like Smailagic.
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Re: Around the NBA V: Live and Let Die 

Post#548 » by Coxy » Thu May 19, 2022 3:38 am

and1GS wrote:
watch1958 wrote:
Quazza wrote:so Vivek had made his pop star daughter assistant GM of the king's G league side


So good
Sounds like a match for Kirk Lacob
Fat chance. She looks nothing like Smailagic.


Kirk and Smiley, sounds like a new age sitcom.
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Re: Around the NBA V: Live and Let Die 

Post#549 » by NeoWarriors » Thu May 19, 2022 12:39 pm

Coxy wrote:
and1GS wrote:
watch1958 wrote:Sounds like a match for Kirk Lacob
Fat chance. She looks nothing like Smailagic.


Kirk and Smiley, sounds like a new age sitcom.
Which is kind of ironic because Peter Guber was actually trying to create a buddy sitcom with a basketball player that doesn't speak English as one of the main characters.

https://awfulannouncing.com/2015/abc-picks-pilot-untitled-nba-buddy-comedy.html

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Re: Around the NBA V: Live and Let Die 

Post#550 » by watch1958 » Thu May 19, 2022 3:55 pm

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Coxy wrote:
and1GS wrote:Fat chance. She looks nothing like Smailagic.


Kirk and Smiley, sounds like a new age sitcom.
Which is kind of ironic because Peter Guber was actually trying to create a buddy sitcom with a basketball player that doesn't speak English as one of the main characters.

https://awfulannouncing.com/2015/abc-picks-pilot-untitled-nba-buddy-comedy.html

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Re: Around the NBA V: Live and Let Die 

Post#551 » by WESCO » Fri May 20, 2022 1:38 am

PJ Tucker still has A LOT left in the tank.

Milwaukee might have still beat Celtics with no Middleton if they didn't cheap out on PJ.
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Re: Around the NBA V: Live and Let Die 

Post#552 » by Crazy-Canuck » Sat May 21, 2022 12:12 am

I dont know if i want to pay lavine 200M over 5 years.

Lavine at 5/215M
Poole at 4/100
Wiggs 4/80~100

That lavine contract would scare me. Id take both poole and wiggs over that.
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Re: Around the NBA V: Live and Let Die 

Post#553 » by Mob Byers » Sat May 21, 2022 4:26 pm

Coxy wrote:
Quazza wrote:so Vivek had made his pop star daughter assistant GM of the king's G league side


So good


I love a good nepotism scandal.


Tbh I love nepotism, I do the same thing in these owners (Lacob and Vivek) positions. Family first.
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Re: Around the NBA V: Live and Let Die 

Post#554 » by and1GS » Sun May 22, 2022 2:47 am

Crazy-Canuck wrote:I dont know if i want to pay lavine 200M over 5 years.

Lavine at 5/215M
Poole at 4/100
Wiggs 4/80~100

That lavine contract would scare me. Id take both poole and wiggs over that.


You wouldn't feel good about it, but I think you have to do it. He's only played one full season, but he's 27 and averaged 24/5/5 last year on 47/39/85 on a very good team (until everyone got injured). He'd be 32 at the end of his deal and the reality is that players of his stature will always get the max. There's no opportuntiy to have him for less.

Poole at 4/100 is a much better deal, but I really doubt he will sign that. If I was him I'd ask for 30+ this offseason. Then when I don't get it, say screw it let's talk next summer.
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Re: Around the NBA V: Live and Let Die 

Post#555 » by Impuniti » Tue May 24, 2022 12:32 am

Why are we talking about Lavine at Warriors?
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Re: Around the NBA V: Live and Let Die 

Post#556 » by Impuniti » Tue May 24, 2022 2:34 am

If the Heat make the finals, time to pull out the alcohol.
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Re: Around the NBA V: Live and Let Die 

Post#557 » by Coxy » Thu May 26, 2022 2:22 am

How can we get Gabe Vincent off the Heat for next season? Love his game as a backup PG.
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Re: Around the NBA V: Live and Let Die 

Post#558 » by wco81 » Thu May 26, 2022 2:38 am

Heat are done. Butler isn’t limping but he can’t score.
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Re: Around the NBA V: Live and Let Die 

Post#559 » by ahmetmekin » Thu May 26, 2022 3:05 am

Will be a pretty tough matchup.
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Re: Around the NBA V: Live and Let Die 

Post#560 » by Onus » Thu May 26, 2022 8:36 pm

Perkins is putting in work and getting Steph mentioned in the mount rushmore of the NBA. I swear must be a few days straight of him and RJ debating it
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