ECF Game 5: Boston @ Miami - 5/25 @ 8:30pm EST

[954gator]

We’re talking about completely gutting a team with a finals appearance and ECF appearance possibly both derailed by injury. That’s just not logical, especially when we have the pieces to improve the team. Go all in this summer to improve, if it doesn’t work by the end of Lowrys contract (if he’s still there) figure out what direction to go in. We’re built for the now and for the future but we can still better our team

i dont get this thinking... sry... finals appearances and ECFs are not titles. we have retooled this team again n again now... and it continues to be nothing but running into a brick wall... we got embarrassed against the lakers, and in this series agains boston we nearly went a quarter with 1 point..... there is serious flaws with this roster, and yes its time to tear it down. if not, i hope pat enjoys his current ring count because he will not be adding any more to his collection. Every team has to rebuild once in awhile, golden state tanked for years to build there core, and celtics too... what we need is to bring a real superstar to miami, not build treadmill teams like present.

Roster has holes, but tanking is not an option.

[dagger151]

People need to lay off Jimmy, this is NOT his fault. What do you expect from this guy who lays it out there every game, mostly by himself. These players are gassed. Its the same scenario as the last two seasons. Covid-19 and all the delays in schedule has created havoc in the NBA. Look at how many injuries there are on every team. I know this is somewhat typical at the end of a season, but this season, its so evident that the scheduling has been brutal to older teams.

Boston is looking better as they have younger legs. Without your legs, you get less hop and its clear to me these misses are a result of tired legs. They cant defend as good either without that early season energy.

I think its time to start Oladipo over Struss. If Herro is out, lets rotate Dipo, Struss, and Duncan. Dipo has earned a spot on the starting 5. We need the defense against their first team.

Bam Adebayo is the biggest disappointment. When did he turn into Mr Soft? I'm sick of watching him get the ball and immediately look to pass it off. Max player that cant shoot? C'mon BAM, where is that aggression you speak of? Every time you are guarded by a smaller defender, take it to the rack!

Starting my prayers for a Dame Lillard trade this offseason. Pat can get it done!

[eddieheatfan]

We’re talking about completely gutting a team with a finals appearance and ECF appearance possibly both derailed by injury. That’s just not logical, especially when we have the pieces to improve the team. Go all in this summer to improve, if it doesn’t work by the end of Lowrys contract (if he’s still there) figure out what direction to go in. We’re built for the now and for the future but we can still better our team

i dont get this thinking... sry... finals appearances and ECFs are not titles. we have retooled this team again n again now... and it continues to be nothing but running into a brick wall... we got embarrassed against the lakers, and in this series agains boston we nearly went a quarter with 1 point..... there is serious flaws with this roster, and yes its time to tear it down. if not, i hope pat enjoys his current ring count because he will not be adding any more to his collection. Every team has to rebuild once in awhile, golden state tanked for years to build there core, and celtics too... what we need is to bring a real superstar to miami, not build treadmill teams like present.

Roster has holes, but tanking is not an option.

fire spo is the only solution

[goodboy]

Spo isnt the solution. Our players cant hit chit is.

Who's going to replace spo anyway?

98% league switches them like hot potato with no success in sight.

[Beenie]

Spo isnt the solution. Our players cant hit chit is.

Who's going to replace spo anyway?

98% league switches them like hot potato with no success in sight.

In 2 - 4 years perhaps Juwan Howard.

Spo can go upstairs and replace Riley.

[HeatFanDan]

People need to lay off Jimmy, this is NOT his fault. What do you expect from this guy who lays it out there every game, mostly by himself. These players are gassed. Its the same scenario as the last two seasons. Covid-19 and all the delays in schedule has created havoc in the NBA. Look at how many injuries there are on every team. I know this is somewhat typical at the end of a season, but this season, its so evident that the scheduling has been brutal to older teams.

Boston is looking better as they have younger legs. Without your legs, you get less hop and its clear to me these misses are a result of tired legs. They cant defend as good either without that early season energy.

I think its time to start Oladipo over Struss. If Herro is out, lets rotate Dipo, Struss, and Duncan. Dipo has earned a spot on the starting 5. We need the defense against their first team.

Bam Adebayo is the biggest disappointment. When did he turn into Mr Soft? I'm sick of watching him get the ball and immediately look to pass it off. Max player that cant shoot? C'mon BAM, where is that aggression you speak of? Every time you are guarded by a smaller defender, take it to the rack!

Starting my prayers for a Dame Lillard trade this offseason. Pat can get it done!

Lol @ "lays it out there every game". That's not what I saw the last two games. Dude looks like he legit gave up.

[HeatFanDan]

Last 3 games:

Mia 42 ft - Bos 91 ft
49 FTA disparity



Gm5 FT's

End of 1Q: Mia 0 - Bos 4 (Heat up 19-17)
End of 2Q: Mia 2 - Bos 9 (Heat up 42-37)
End of 3Q: Mia 10 - Bos 21 (Heat down 58-69) Lead is 11 - FT deficit 11

By 4Q the damage was done they hardly even called FT's. Just an extra 2 for C's & 4 for us.


I'm not saying officiating is what solely lost us the game & yes we didn't play up to par....but they certainly didn't help. You know who they have been helping, especially in the last 3 games? Boston.

What makes the free throw disparity in this series all the more ridiculous is that we are a #1 seed. NEVER in my 30+ years of watching NBA basketball have I seen a 1 seed get the business from the refs/league like this. Disgusting.

[Hallstar]

Spo isnt the solution. Our players cant hit chit is.

Who's going to replace spo anyway?

98% league switches them like hot potato with no success in sight.

In 2 - 4 years perhaps Juwan Howard.

Spo can go upstairs and replace Riley.

I don't think it's fire Spo, but we need some semblance of an offense. We have this roll the ball out there and lets hope for an open shot approach that doesn't maximize talent. We know what's gonna happen on defense, win or lose, we never know what the offense will look like.

That's why we occasionally make scrubs look decent. They can get by on hustle and broken plays...those don't come often in the playoffs.

No reason we shouldn't have been spamming Tyler/Bam or JImmy/Bam PnR all year till somebody showed they can stop it, but instead it's random no name hits a couple shots and now he's supposed to be involved in the offense for the next 2 weeks until he regresses....no structure

[al bondiga]

You could just see it in his ways when he was home walking into the Stadium... jb was hurting, he would have to rely on bam and others... they just didn't have it and especially without Tyler... we were lucky to get to the ecf...but let's get a superstar this summer and we can win it all

[Flash4thewin]

People need to lay off Jimmy, this is NOT his fault. What do you expect from this guy who lays it out there every game, mostly by himself. These players are gassed. Its the same scenario as the last two seasons. Covid-19 and all the delays in schedule has created havoc in the NBA. Look at how many injuries there are on every team. I know this is somewhat typical at the end of a season, but this season, its so evident that the scheduling has been brutal to older teams.

Boston is looking better as they have younger legs. Without your legs, you get less hop and its clear to me these misses are a result of tired legs. They cant defend as good either without that early season energy.

I think its time to start Oladipo over Struss. If Herro is out, lets rotate Dipo, Struss, and Duncan. Dipo has earned a spot on the starting 5. We need the defense against their first team.

Bam Adebayo is the biggest disappointment. When did he turn into Mr Soft? I'm sick of watching him get the ball and immediately look to pass it off. Max player that cant shoot? C'mon BAM, where is that aggression you speak of? Every time you are guarded by a smaller defender, take it to the rack!

Starting my prayers for a Dame Lillard trade this offseason. Pat can get it done!

Lol @ "lays it out there every game". That's not what I saw the last two games. Dude looks like he legit gave up.

When people in the crowd where getting that Bucks vibe from last playoff they weren't lying. We played scared and like trash.

[Flash4thewin]

Last 3 games:

Mia 42 ft - Bos 91 ft
49 FTA disparity



Gm5 FT's

End of 1Q: Mia 0 - Bos 4 (Heat up 19-17)
End of 2Q: Mia 2 - Bos 9 (Heat up 42-37)
End of 3Q: Mia 10 - Bos 21 (Heat down 58-69) Lead is 11 - FT deficit 11

By 4Q the damage was done they hardly even called FT's. Just an extra 2 for C's & 4 for us.


I'm not saying officiating is what solely lost us the game & yes we didn't play up to par....but they certainly didn't help. You know who they have been helping, especially in the last 3 games? Boston.

What makes the free throw disparity in this series all the more ridiculous is that we are a #1 seed. NEVER in my 30+ years of watching NBA basketball have I seen a 1 seed get the business from the refs/league like this. Disgusting.

Some teams are built for the playoffs, others are built for the regular season. This team is not built for the the playoffs. This is a team built to make the playoffs. We got lucky with injuries to our opponents and took advantage of them. If you notice most contenders dont give a rats ass about the regular season, they just want to make the playoffs and be healthy.

[Beenie]

Spo isnt the solution. Our players cant hit chit is.

Who's going to replace spo anyway?

98% league switches them like hot potato with no success in sight.

In 2 - 4 years perhaps Juwan Howard.

Spo can go upstairs and replace Riley.

I don't think it's fire Spo, but we need some semblance of an offense. We have this roll the ball out there and lets hope for an open shot approach that doesn't maximize talent. We know what's gonna happen on defense, win or lose, we never know what the offense will look like.

That's why we occasionally make scrubs look decent. They can get by on hustle and broken plays...those don't come often in the playoffs.

No reason we shouldn't have been spamming Tyler/Bam or JImmy/Bam PnR all year till somebody showed they can stop it, but instead it's random no name hits a couple shots and now he's supposed to be involved in the offense for the next 2 weeks until he regresses....no structure

Wouldn't be firing Spo if he took over for Riley.

That would actually be a promotion.

[dshearn]

I don't get the fire Spo stuff

Are dudes getting open looks?

Yes

Are dudes making open looks?

No

[SerialChiller]

Spo isnt the solution. Our players cant hit chit is.

Who's going to replace spo anyway?

98% league switches them like hot potato with no success in sight.

In 2 - 4 years perhaps Juwan Howard.

Spo can go upstairs and replace Riley.

I think he's grooming Chris Quinn to be his successor for when he takes over for Riley.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

We’re talking about completely gutting a team with a finals appearance and ECF appearance possibly both derailed by injury. That’s just not logical, especially when we have the pieces to improve the team. Go all in this summer to improve, if it doesn’t work by the end of Lowrys contract (if he’s still there) figure out what direction to go in. We’re built for the now and for the future but we can still better our team

i dont get this thinking... sry... finals appearances and ECFs are not titles. we have retooled this team again n again now... and it continues to be nothing but running into a brick wall... we got embarrassed against the lakers, and in this series agains boston we nearly went a quarter with 1 point..... there is serious flaws with this roster, and yes its time to tear it down. if not, i hope pat enjoys his current ring count because he will not be adding any more to his collection. Every team has to rebuild once in awhile, golden state tanked for years to build there core, and celtics too... what we need is to bring a real superstar to miami, not build treadmill teams like present.

We have the assets to bring in an all star level scorer. You try that first and go from there

[Flash4thewin]

We’re talking about completely gutting a team with a finals appearance and ECF appearance possibly both derailed by injury. That’s just not logical, especially when we have the pieces to improve the team. Go all in this summer to improve, if it doesn’t work by the end of Lowrys contract (if he’s still there) figure out what direction to go in. We’re built for the now and for the future but we can still better our team

i dont get this thinking... sry... finals appearances and ECFs are not titles. we have retooled this team again n again now... and it continues to be nothing but running into a brick wall... we got embarrassed against the lakers, and in this series agains boston we nearly went a quarter with 1 point..... there is serious flaws with this roster, and yes its time to tear it down. if not, i hope pat enjoys his current ring count because he will not be adding any more to his collection. Every team has to rebuild once in awhile, golden state tanked for years to build there core, and celtics too... what we need is to bring a real superstar to miami, not build treadmill teams like present.

We have the assets to bring in an all star level scorer. You try that first and go from there

What assets? Other than Herro what do we have to offer? Lowry is trash, Duncan is trash. Bam might have some value but he means more to us in our defense so we won't trade him. Butler is the captain here so he won't get traded. What assets? Low first round draft picks won't cut it, they will need to be completely unprotected to get a teams interest. Then remember Lowry is going to get older, so is Butler so would you really feel comfortable trading unprotected first round picks?

[3ammy3uck3ts]

I swear if you rescheme the offense in a way that Bam is getting 18 shots a night he’s averaging 25-11-3 at worst and and if we’re a top 3 seed in the East how is Bam viewed around the league? Hell he was already 4th for DPOY and 5th for all NBA at 19-10-3 this season

Stop passing the buck. It’s not the offensive scheme, it’s Bam.

Here’s Bam taking jumpers and 3s in his predraft workout. It’s not the offensive scheme that keeps Bam from taking these shots 5 years into his pro career, it’s Bam’s fault. Those shots are there whenever he wants them, he’s just scared

Watch on YouTube

Here’s Bam in an empty gym working on stuff he never does in the game. Not the scheme, it’s Bam
https://streamable.com/03yjht

Oh look, Bam looking like the most skilled big in the league again - in an empty gym. When have we seen any of these moves with regularity?

Read on Twitter

Not the scheme, it’s Bam. Every hooper knows someone like Bam in real life. That guy who looks all world on the street, then you put him into an organized setting with spectators and wonder wtf happened. Yep, thats Bam right there.

Explain his major decrease in touches and usage?

You can post all the videos you want, it doesn’t change a thing.

Tell Bam you want him to be a scorer out of the gate and out an end to the DHOs. Tell him to shoot 18 shots a game and he’s averaging 25-11-3 worst case and he’s all nba.

I know ball and I know what I see. I know the skillset and ability I see. We saw a glimpse in game 3 and then what happens? Another decrease in touches and usage so we can have him set up our shooters who can’t shoot for 45 3s a game. I understand Jimmy taking more shots but Tyler for damn sure shouldn’t be taking more. Spo just feels like he has too because if he isn’t scoring he doesn’t impact anything, and even then he doesn’t impact much as the numbers tell us.

Are you telling me Bam isn’t averaging 25 a game if he shoots 18 shots a game?

[3ammy3uck3ts]

i dont get this thinking... sry... finals appearances and ECFs are not titles. we have retooled this team again n again now... and it continues to be nothing but running into a brick wall... we got embarrassed against the lakers, and in this series agains boston we nearly went a quarter with 1 point..... there is serious flaws with this roster, and yes its time to tear it down. if not, i hope pat enjoys his current ring count because he will not be adding any more to his collection. Every team has to rebuild once in awhile, golden state tanked for years to build there core, and celtics too... what we need is to bring a real superstar to miami, not build treadmill teams like present.

We have the assets to bring in an all star level scorer. You try that first and go from there

What assets? Other than Herro what do we have to offer? Lowry is trash, Duncan is trash. Bam might have some value but he means more to us in our defense so we won't trade him. Butler is the captain here so he won't get traded. What assets? Low first round draft picks won't cut it, they will need to be completely unprotected to get a teams interest. Then remember Lowry is going to get older, so is Butler so would you really feel comfortable trading unprotected first round picks?

Herro salary filler any of the younger guys we have and any picks that we own.

Yes I feel comfortable unprotecting them. You bring in Mitchell with Bam and they’re not going to be high picks regardless of what Jimmy is doing and they for damn sure won’t be bad picks over the course of Lowrys short contract.

[Kobewade11]

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Explain his major decrease in touches and usage?

You can post all the videos you want, it doesn’t change a thing.

Tell Bam you want him to be a scorer out of the gate and out an end to the DHOs. Tell him to shoot 18 shots a game and he’s averaging 25-11-3 worst case and he’s all nba.

I know ball and I know what I see. I know the skillset and ability I see. We saw a glimpse in game 3 and then what happens? Another decrease in touches and usage so we can have him set up our shooters who can’t shoot for 45 3s a game. I understand Jimmy taking more shots but Tyler for damn sure shouldn’t be taking more. Spo just feels like he has too because if he isn’t scoring he doesn’t impact anything, and even then he doesn’t impact much as the numbers tell us.

Are you telling me Bam isn’t averaging 25 a game if he shoots 18 shots a game?

Bam doesnt have the testicular fortitude to put up 18 shots a game regularly so why are you even asking? Go back and read the article Fresh posted about kentucky coaches criticizing his lack of aggression. If they dont bite as puppies guess what? They arent biting as adults. He isnt that guy, never gonna be that guy, get over it.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

We’re talking about completely gutting a team with a finals appearance and ECF appearance possibly both derailed by injury. That’s just not logical, especially when we have the pieces to improve the team. Go all in this summer to improve, if it doesn’t work by the end of Lowrys contract (if he’s still there) figure out what direction to go in. We’re built for the now and for the future but we can still better our team

Don’t man.

The Hawks where missing their starting C and PF.

The 76er if Embiid is healthy or at least plays every games with how Bam is Bam we lose.

This team took advantage of injuries which is ok but it’s not a championship team or even a conference final team. We are a second round team. No shame in that.

We’ve been injured too, our $30M champion Pg has barely played and when he has he’s played injured.

Capela came back and was a scrub. Same for Collins. They got bullied.

Healthy Lowry we beat the Sixers in 6 worst case still regardless of Embiid.

You need some luck like that to win championships.

The same can be said for the Celtics: no Simmons, no Middleton, Jimmy and Lowry hurt.

Warriors, no Murray, no MPJ, No Ja.

It’s part of it