2021-22 NBA Season Discussion

[parsnips33]

Steph gonna win Wcfmvp while being the 6th best Warrior on the floor in the deciding game 5

worst Wcfmvp of alltime

Easily the worst of all time. Still has more wcfmvps than LeBron, Kareem and Jordan combined

[70sFan]

and then we have other 3 finals after that where lebron scored much better than 2015 making that first finals look like an anomaly

Well, we all know 2016 performance but the truth is that James wasn't that amazing scoring-wise in that series. He had very underwhelming beginning of the series and even game 7 was tough for him.

In 2017 Iggy played considerably less minutes and it was a shootout.

In 2018, Iggy missed two games and played limited minutes in another two, so it gives us nothing.

I think it's fair to say that Iggy defended 2nd Cavs version of LeBron better than anyone else.

[GSP]

and then we have other 3 finals after that where lebron scored much better than 2015 making that first finals look like an anomaly

Well, we all know 2016 performance but the truth is that James wasn't that amazing scoring-wise in that series. He had very underwhelming beginning of the series and even game 7 was tough for him.

In 2017 Iggy played considerably less minutes and it was a shootout.

In 2018, Iggy missed two games and played limited minutes in another two, so it gives us nothing.

I think it's fair to say that Iggy defended 2nd Cavs version of LeBron better than anyone else.

Bron had no spacing in that 15 finals without Kyrie/Love. And no one else besides Kyrie could even function as a ballhandler. Theres only so much you can do with Matthew Delladova and Timofey Mozgov as your 2nd and 3rd options and having to make plays and decisions with the ball every possession and cant take a possession off. Iggy "defending Bron well" when he had a g league roster around him doesnt really say anything TBH

[70sFan]

and then we have other 3 finals after that where lebron scored much better than 2015 making that first finals look like an anomaly

Well, we all know 2016 performance but the truth is that James wasn't that amazing scoring-wise in that series. He had very underwhelming beginning of the series and even game 7 was tough for him.

In 2017 Iggy played considerably less minutes and it was a shootout.

In 2018, Iggy missed two games and played limited minutes in another two, so it gives us nothing.

I think it's fair to say that Iggy defended 2nd Cavs version of LeBron better than anyone else.

Bron had no spacing in that 15 finals without Kyrie/Love. And no one else besides Kyrie could even function as a ballhandler. Theres only so much you can do with Matthew Delladova and Timofey Mozgov as your 2nd and 3rd options. Iggy "defending Bron well" when he had a g league roster around him doesnt really say anything TBH

True, but he also defended him well in 2016. LeBron still had two explosions in games 5 and 6, but over the whole series James wasn't his usual self on offense. Iggy always made James work harder for his points.

[Gooner]

Klay Thompson always delivers when it matters the most. He is the clutchest player in his team. Still so underrated by many. Warriors deserve another title, and especially Klay after all he's been through.

[Max123]

Regardless of who makes it out of the East, I'll be a little surprised if it is not the Celtics, the Finals should be extraordinary from a scheme standpoint given the coaching and scheme versatility that each of the teams left have. Besides, Steph Curry alone usually presents unique problems to the opposing team and it's always fun to see them try to solve those problems.

[Colbinii]

This Celtics team reminds me of the 2008 Celtics. All-time great defense but underperforms throughout in the playoffs [They should have beat Milwaukee in 5 or 6 and Miami in 5].

I'm extremely excited for this Finals [Assuming Boston wins the ECF]. They have a much better defense than any of the Cavaliers teams and while comparable to 2019 Toronto, the Celtics size and more mobility at Center [Marc Gasol isn't that] should lend itself to a good series. I am worried about Boston's lack of ball control against a team like Golden State and there defense and Andrew Wiggins is once again the key defensive piece against Tatum.

[Peregrine01]

I have the Celts as the clear favorites against the Warriors. How do all of you feel?

[falcolombardi]

I have the Celts as the clear favorites against the Warriors. How do all of you feel?

around 50-50 i guess

i think both teans will make each other lives miserable defensively, it probably would be a grind where every bit of offense role players csn create and every hot hand day by star scorers will be huge

[70sFan]

I have the Celts as the clear favorites against the Warriors. How do all of you feel?

I have Warriors as favorites, because Celtics offense is very suspect. I don't see Tatum having amazing series against Warriors defense.

[Colbinii]

I have the Celts as the clear favorites against the Warriors. How do all of you feel?

I have Warriors as favorites, because Celtics offense is very suspect. I don't see Tatum having amazing series against Warriors defense.

I agree. 60-40 Warriors.

[mikejames23]

I have Warriors in this matchup, though I do believe this team is one of the weaker GSW contending teams. Will be interesting to see what Boston's defense does to them.

[falcolombardi]

i think people are overating the warriors offense a bit if they think is comfortably better than boston offense

warriors destroted dallas and denver defense (the former was impressive, the latter less so) but -really- struggled to score against memphis without ja on court

when they had weak links in the opposite D like ja or Luka their offense was smooth

but kf those 3 games agains ja-less grizzlies are any indication of what warriors look against an athletic, switchable, talented defense (and boston is probably a step above grizzliess in all these areas) then i think warriors offense is gonna have a really hard time against boston

remember, warriors scored mpre than 120 per 100 against denver and dallas, but only 109 against grizzlies (-3 offense) and averaged 101 points against them in the 3 games without ja on court. average league wide is 112 so they scored around -11 offense depending on the pace of those 3 games (which i admit i am too lazy to calculate manually lol)

of course as i say this maybe they will find a way to break boston D and score well against them and make me look dumb lmao

[parsnips33]

I'm so glad I never bought in on the Suns this season. The fact that that offense couldn't take better advantage of Dallas' D is a huge black mark.

I still wish they could have got past Mavs so Warriors could have been the team to knock em out, but it was fun watching Luka embarrass them. I'm fully on board the Luka wagon until next time we face them, one of the most entertaining players to watch

[parsnips33]

I kinda predict a series against Boston moves into small ball very quickly. Will be very interesting to see what Horford and Looney's roles in that matchup would be

[parsnips33]

538 model gave the Warriors under 1% chance to make the finals before the season

WE BELIEVE PART 2

[ronnymac2]

GSW should be clear favorite vs. Boston.

[falcolombardi]

warriors against the grizzlies without morant (games 4-6)
102 offensive rating

warriors in the rest of the playoffs
120+ offensive rating

i am actually intrigued, did memphis show the blueprint of how to stop this warriors offense (boston defensive personnel is probably stronger/mpre athletic and switchable than the grizzlies )

or was it just a small sample outlier in what has otherwise been a pristine offensive run by the warriors?

boston defense is gonna be the ultimate test to warriors playoffs offense resiliency, if they can generate decent offende against boston the series is probably theirs

if they are held down to 102~ offensive ratings throufh the series like the grizzlies did once morant went down? i may take boston at that point

[falcolombardi]

538 model gave the Warriors under 1% chance to make the finals before the season

WE BELIEVE PART 2

538 model perenially underates or overates some teams

i still remember how it hated the lakers in 2020 or loved the celtics every year including 2021

[Colbinii]

I kinda predict a series against Boston moves into small ball very quickly. Will be very interesting to see what Horford and Looney's roles in that matchup would be

You mean Robert Williams and Looney?