[WOJ] Lakers have hired Darvin Ham as Head Coach

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Re: [WOJ] Lakers have hired Darvin Ham as Head Coach 

Post#61 » by LAL1947 » Sat May 28, 2022 2:10 am

Free Rider wrote:
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Catchall wrote:Boom! I'm first!

So I guess they got tired of waiting on Doc Rivers and Quin Snyder...

Free Rider wrote:I’m somewhat shocked. This is actually a competent choice by an generally incompetent organization.


:roll: :roll: :roll:

Half the bad stuff you guys believe about the Lakers is stuff y'all make up yourselves. :lol:


Yea, I completely made up the Lakers getting rid of their championship core for an inefficient ball dominant PG and a whole bunch of players who were 5-6 years past their primes.

When not one but both of your Super-max Super-stars ask you to do that, you do it.

If the Lakers had not done this, still done badly with the injuries, and Lebron/AD let it out that they had wanted Westbrook... feels like you'd be finding fault with that too saying, "what an incompetent organization, how could they pass on such a competent choice as Westbrook. He's a walking trip-dub".
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Re: [WOJ] Lakers have hired Darvin Ham as Head Coach 

Post#62 » by thebigbird » Sat May 28, 2022 2:12 am

LAL1947 wrote:
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LAL1947 wrote:

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Half the bad stuff you guys believe about the Lakers is stuff y'all make up yourselves. :lol:


Yea, I completely made up the Lakers getting rid of their championship core for an inefficient ball dominant PG and a whole bunch of players who were 5-6 years past their primes.

When not one but both of your Super-max Superstars ask you to do that, you do it.

If the Lakers had not done this, still done badly with the injuries, and Lebron/AD let it out that they had wanted Westbrook... feels like you'd be finding fault with that too saying, "what an incompetent organization, how could they pass on such a competent choice as Westbrook. He's a walking trip-dub".

I don’t think anyone in the world would be saying that. It’s universally accepted that Westbrook is trash. They’ve told LeBron no numerous times. This one should’ve been a no brainer.
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Re: [WOJ] Lakers have hired Darvin Ham as Head Coach 

Post#63 » by LAL1947 » Sat May 28, 2022 2:21 am

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LAL1947 wrote:When not one but both of your Super-max Superstars ask you to do that, you do it.

If the Lakers had not done this, still done badly with the injuries, and Lebron/AD let it out that they had wanted Westbrook... feels like you'd be finding fault with that too saying, "what an incompetent organization, how could they pass on such a competent choice as Westbrook. He's a walking trip-dub".

I don’t think anyone in the world would be saying that. It’s universally accepted that Westbrook is trash. They’ve told LeBron no numerous times. This one should’ve been a no brainer.

Well, agreed it was a real bad choice... and if you look at the Lakers forum, I threw a fit when we signed Westbrook.

Just saying, I understand why the organization did it and it doesn't make them incompetent... because they went about trying to fill the gaps as best they could with the very limited resources (picks, players, cap space) they had left after making the trade.
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Re: [WOJ] Lakers have hired Darvin Ham as Head Coach 

Post#64 » by Free Rider » Sat May 28, 2022 2:22 am

LAL1947 wrote:
Free Rider wrote:
LAL1947 wrote:

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Half the bad stuff you guys believe about the Lakers is stuff y'all make up yourselves. :lol:


Yea, I completely made up the Lakers getting rid of their championship core for an inefficient ball dominant PG and a whole bunch of players who were 5-6 years past their primes.

When not one but both of your Super-max Superstars ask you to do that, you do it.

If the Lakers had not done this, still done badly with the injuries, and Lebron/AD let it out that they had wanted Westbrook... feels like you'd be finding fault with that too saying, "what an incompetent organization, how could they pass on such a competent choice as Westbrook. He's a walking trip-dub".


What in the historical revisionism is this B.S.? You wanna defend the Westbrook trade go for it, but to do so on the basis that they would have received criticism from fans is absurd. It's not as if people were desperately clamoring for WB to join their teams. In any event, a smart organization would have known better than to cater to the whims of their star players when there was sufficient evidence it wouldn't work. Nothing that happened with WB was an unforeseen event and the best way to satisfy your franchise players is to put together a championship caliber team.
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Re: [WOJ] Lakers have hired Darvin Ham as Head Coach 

Post#65 » by HanzGruber » Sat May 28, 2022 2:31 am

Free Rider wrote:I’m somewhat shocked. This is actually a competent choice by an generally incompetent organization. I expected them to go with the usual coaching carousel candidates of people like Stotts and Atkinson but they went with the fresh talent.

Walton was fresh talent
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Re: [WOJ] Lakers have hired Darvin Ham as Head Coach 

Post#66 » by Frank Dux » Sat May 28, 2022 2:34 am

I was convinced Jeanie was going to trade some future 1sts for Doc Rivers, so this is a win for me.
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Re: [WOJ] Lakers have hired Darvin Ham as Head Coach 

Post#67 » by thebigbird » Sat May 28, 2022 2:38 am

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thebigbird wrote:
LAL1947 wrote:When not one but both of your Super-max Superstars ask you to do that, you do it.

If the Lakers had not done this, still done badly with the injuries, and Lebron/AD let it out that they had wanted Westbrook... feels like you'd be finding fault with that too saying, "what an incompetent organization, how could they pass on such a competent choice as Westbrook. He's a walking trip-dub".

I don’t think anyone in the world would be saying that. It’s universally accepted that Westbrook is trash. They’ve told LeBron no numerous times. This one should’ve been a no brainer.

Well, agreed it was a real bad choice... and if you look at the Lakers forum, I threw a fit when we signed Westbrook.

Just saying, I understand why the organization did it and it doesn't make them incompetent... because they went about trying to fill the gaps as best they could with the very limited resources (picks, players, cap space) they had left after making the trade.

They may have had limited resources, but this quite literally was the worst move they could’ve made. Everyone saw it was a disaster waiting to happen. Surely they could’ve seen it too. Maybe AD and LeBron would’ve been mad, but they probably aren’t happy about the roster now too. They even gave up a 1st round pick to get RWB. I have no idea how they thought it would work. We have 10+ years of evidence.
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Re: [WOJ] Lakers have hired Darvin Ham as Head Coach 

Post#68 » by LAL1947 » Sat May 28, 2022 2:45 am

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Free Rider wrote:
Yea, I completely made up the Lakers getting rid of their championship core for an inefficient ball dominant PG and a whole bunch of players who were 5-6 years past their primes.

When not one but both of your Super-max Superstars ask you to do that, you do it.

If the Lakers had not done this, still done badly with the injuries, and Lebron/AD let it out that they had wanted Westbrook... feels like you'd be finding fault with that too saying, "what an incompetent organization, how could they pass on such a competent choice as Westbrook. He's a walking trip-dub".


What in the historical revisionism is this B.S.? You wanna defend the Westbrook trade go for it, but to do so on the basis that they would have received criticism from fans is absurd.

I'm not defending the Westbrook trade, that was horrible. I'm just saying that some are never happy and can't give credit when competent things are done... therefore, they build up a surplus of incompetent things in their memory.

For example, when the Lakers hired Frank Vogel, that was a very competent choice... did you give them credit for that? The Lakers did their due diligence and interviewed a group of candidates. They then decided that Ty Lue was asking for too much (he wanted $35m/5-years + Lakers to pay what Cleveland still owed him, so $40-45m in total)... and decided that Vogel was the man who gave them what they were looking for at the price they had set ($18m/3-years). A smart decision... yet people here were flaming them for that. They then flamed the Lakers for hiring Jason Kidd as his assistant, and made that out to be incompetent too. No credit to competence was given when they hired Lionel Hollins and Phil Handy to round out the coaching staff either.

Look at the way you have worded your post here, "I'm surprised that an incompetent organization made a competent choice". How do you know if choosing Ham is a more competent choice than Stotts or Atkinson? For that matter, how do you even know if he will be a better coach than them? Are there observable, measurable and communicable results that you are personally privy to?

For both Vogel and Ham, a competent selection process appears to have been followed... that's all we can ask for as fans (especially as Lakers fans), apart from welcoming Darvin and wishing him well.

Yet, even here people are trying to invent incompetent things about this coaching search, lol. The Lakers said they had 6 candidates, narrowed it down to 3 finalists, decided on 1... with no wacko reasons given for the final selection... but people still throwing Doc Rivers and Mike Brown's names in here when the Lakers have not said if those guys were actually approached.
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Re: [WOJ] Lakers have hired Darvin Ham as Head Coach 

Post#69 » by stillgotgame » Sat May 28, 2022 3:15 am

Great choice! Happy for Darvin, truly a good guy.
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Post#70 » by LAL1947 » Sat May 28, 2022 3:21 am

cupcakesnake wrote:Great news. Darvin Ham has been getting HC interviews for what feels like forever so this feels overdue.

I think the Lakers should get a little credit for giving Darvin his deserved shot at Head Coach. As you pointed out, other teams didn't give the man that shot despite him interviewing for ages. :P
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Re: [WOJ] Lakers have hired Darvin Ham as Head Coach 

Post#71 » by kombayn » Sat May 28, 2022 3:50 am

I like the hire for the Lakers. It's a low risk, high reward hire for them. If LeBron signs the extension, great for the Lakers, if he doesn't then they can plan for the retool of the roster after LBJ. I'm sure Darvin Ham signed a pretty cheap deal to coach for them, no one was clamoring to make him the Head Coach of their team. I still think the Lakers need to find a way to trade Westbrook. But at this point the Lakers are ready to have LeBron and Westbrook's deals expire so they have the cap-space coming up.
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Re: [WOJ] Lakers have hired Darvin Ham as Head Coach 

Post#72 » by Johnny Bball » Sat May 28, 2022 4:03 am

And James tweet about this hire is a fake piece of ****. But this hire is why they should not let him make anymore decisions for them.
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Re: [WOJ] Lakers have hired Darvin Ham as Head Coach 

Post#73 » by Baddy Chuck » Sat May 28, 2022 4:04 am

No idea how good of a coach he is but the Bucks players seemed to love him. Happy to see him get a chance, hate to see him leave.
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Re: [WOJ] Lakers have hired Darvin Ham as Head Coach 

Post#74 » by JujitsuFlip » Sat May 28, 2022 4:09 am

ReasonablySober wrote:Love Darvin Ham. I wish he got a better gig first, but I'm happy for him.
This is where I'm at with it too.
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Re: [WOJ] Lakers have hired Darvin Ham as Head Coach 

Post#75 » by Kilroy » Sat May 28, 2022 4:14 am

So that'll give him 3 years to try to salvage his reputation after having to coach LeBron Westbrook and AD next season... Seems fair...
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Re: [WOJ] Lakers have hired Darvin Ham as Head Coach 

Post#76 » by Phreak50 » Sat May 28, 2022 4:22 am

Perfect for LeGM.

This dude is a 2ppg career scrub, listen to me instead of him.

And when the $#it inevitably hits the fan, we can blame him!

Win win!
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Re: [WOJ] Lakers have hired Darvin Ham as Head Coach 

Post#77 » by LikeABosh » Sat May 28, 2022 4:23 am

Actually a good decision by the Laker front office
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Re: [WOJ] Lakers have hired Darvin Ham as Head Coach 

Post#78 » by Free Rider » Sat May 28, 2022 4:29 am

Phreak50 wrote:Perfect for LeGM.

This dude is a 2ppg career scrub, listen to me instead of him.

And when the $#it inevitably hits the fan, we can blame him!

Win win!


Eh, I feel like you could have made this argument with practically any coach hire. The NBA has shown time and time again that coaches are pretty disposable and easy to scapegoat. It's not like Phil or Pat are walking through those doors.
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Re: [WOJ] Lakers have hired Darvin Ham as Head Coach 

Post#79 » by TheGOATWill » Sat May 28, 2022 4:40 am

Phreak50 wrote:Perfect for LeGM.

This dude is a 2ppg career scrub, listen to me instead of him.

And when the $#it inevitably hits the fan, we can blame him!

Win win!

Nobody's running over Darvin Ham. He still looks like he'll put hands on somebody.
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Re: [WOJ] Lakers have hired Darvin Ham as Head Coach 

Post#80 » by axeman23 » Sat May 28, 2022 4:47 am

facothomas22 wrote:Should've taken the Charlotte Hornets job.They have a young star in Lemelo Ball. Miles Bridges is getting better. They also some other good pieces as well,which would be good for a young coach like Darvin. But instead he decided to take a dead coach gag for the Lakers. This guy will be unemployed by this time next year or year after when they end being one of the worst teams in the NBA due to terrible roster construction,while the media will mostly blame the coach and use him as the scapegoat for their failure,instead putting the blame where it truly belongs,which is the front office. Like I said before, even a prime Phil Jackson or Pat Riley wouldn't be able to coach this team to the playoffs. Big mistake by Darvin Ham.


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