Fantasy Trade Thread

[Negrodamus]

Portland takes on Tobi + Shake and ‘23 2nd for Bledsoe and Hart

Flip Hart with Thybulle, Springer and pick #23
to Atlanta for Collins.

Use the MLE on starting SF

Trade Green’s expiring contract for a more useful bench piece

Sign a vet min C

Might have to wait, but Bledsoe’s contract will be a valuable trade chip for more bench help/possibly upgrade starting 3.

Harden
Maxey
TJ Warren/Kyle Anderson (MLE)
Collins
Jo

Reed, Niang, Korky, Vet min C, and Bassey are a passable bench to cover SF, PF and C, but would need Green and Bledsoe’s contracts to net another 2 good bench guards…not going to try and predict those trades, but seems fairly doable for Morey to pull off.

POR respectfully declines.

[JRoy]

Portland takes on Tobi + Shake and ‘23 2nd for Bledsoe and Hart

Flip Hart with Thybulle, Springer and pick #23
to Atlanta for Collins.

Use the MLE on starting SF

Trade Green’s expiring contract for a more useful bench piece

Sign a vet min C

Might have to wait, but Bledsoe’s contract will be a valuable trade chip for more bench help/possibly upgrade starting 3.

Harden
Maxey
TJ Warren/Kyle Anderson (MLE)
Collins
Jo

Reed, Niang, Korky, Vet min C, and Bassey are a passable bench to cover SF, PF and C, but would need Green and Bledsoe’s contracts to net another 2 good bench guards…not going to try and predict those trades, but seems fairly doable for Morey to pull off.

POR respectfully declines.

Tempted to make that my sig.

[the_process]

Harris, Niang, and Thybulle for Bertans, THJ, Kleber, and 26

Then use 23 and 26 plus Danny, Furk, and Springer to IND for Myles Turner

Split the MLE on Prince and Batum

[PhillyFan11]

Harris, Niang, and Thybulle for Bertans, THJ, Kleber, and 26

Then use 23 and 26 plus Danny, Furk, and Springer to IND for Myles Turner

Split the MLE on Prince and Batum

No shot in hell Turner and Embiid are a good duo together.

[PhillyFan11]

Trade Harris, Niang and Korkmaz to Dallas for THJ, Bertans, Powell, J. Green and #26.
Harris’s bad contract is canceled out by the collective bad contracts of the 3 vets going back to the sixers. Harris is also pretty clearly the best player in the trade and the Mavs give up Green and #26 in order to improve their roster with limited options.
Flip Powell, J Green and #26 with D Green, Springer and #23 for Harrison Barnes and Terrance Davis.
Barnes probably ends up being equal to Tobi as the stretch PF needed as the 4/5 scoring option in our lineup. Davis has value to the Kings but Green, Springer and 2 late 1st’s have more long term value. He brings another bench wing scoring option to the Sixers with defensive ability. Kings also void Green’s option and likely buy out Powell saving roughly $13M in cap space.

Use MLE on TJ Warren

PG- Harden 32, Maxey 16
SG- Maxey 18, Davis 22, Thybulle 8
SF- THJ 24, Warren 12, Thybulle 12
PF- Barnes 28, Warren, 12, Reed 8
C- Jo 32, Reed 12, Bassey 4
(Bertans, Shake and a vet min C round out roster as depth)

[Kobblehead]

Let's just keep our picks and build the next generation to carry Embiid in his post-prime Duncan phase. There are guys being mocked around our pick range that can have a Maxey-like impact (McGowens, in particular).

[mjkvol]

Let's just keep our picks and build the next generation to carry Embiid in his post-prime Duncan phase. There are guys being mocked around our pick range that can have a Maxey-like impact (McGowens, in particular).

This is where I'm at as well. If we made a trade like:

Harris, Niang, and Thybulle for Bertans, THJ, Kleber, and 26

I want to pick two players at 23 and 26 who can become part of the core unless a better player can be had by packaging both and moving up. Enough with sacrificing every shred of the future for right now - pick the right kids and they can be part of the now as well, ala Jordan Poole.

[PhillyFan11]

Let's just keep our picks and build the next generation to carry Embiid in his post-prime Duncan phase. There are guys being mocked around our pick range that can have a Maxey-like impact (McGowens, in particular).

This is where I'm at as well. If we made a trade like:

Harris, Niang, and Thybulle for Bertans, THJ, Kleber, and 26

I want to pick two players at 23 and 26 who can become part of the core unless a better player can be had by packaging both and moving up. Enough with sacrificing every shred of the future for right now - pick the right kids and they can be part of the now as well, ala Jordan Poole.

In a perfect world I’d love to agree with you guys, but in my opinion the move Morey made for Harden put us on a fast track for a championship in a 2-3 year window….Either that or we are on a fast track to crash and burn. I have a hard time seeing this roster play out smoothly in the long run with Harden (just him as a whole) and Embiid’s injury history.

I was also playing around with adding Thybulle to D Green, Powell, J Green, Springer + 23 and 26 for either Collins or Grant but not sure how realistic that would be

And relying on late 1sts to land you Jordan Poole/Maxey is like relying on the lottery to pay your rent. Maybe you’ll hit, but odds are that you are going to lose

[mjkvol]

Let's just keep our picks and build the next generation to carry Embiid in his post-prime Duncan phase. There are guys being mocked around our pick range that can have a Maxey-like impact (McGowens, in particular).

This is where I'm at as well. If we made a trade like:

Harris, Niang, and Thybulle for Bertans, THJ, Kleber, and 26

I want to pick two players at 23 and 26 who can become part of the core unless a better player can be had by packaging both and moving up. Enough with sacrificing every shred of the future for right now - pick the right kids and they can be part of the now as well, ala Jordan Poole.

In a perfect world I’d love to agree with you guys, but in my opinion the move Morey made for Harden put us on a fast track for a championship in a 2-3 year window….Either that or we are on a fast track to crash and burn. I have a hard time seeing this roster play out smoothly in the long run with Harden (just him as a whole) and Embiid’s injury history.

I was also playing around with adding Thybulle to D Green, Powell, J Green, Springer + 23 and 26 for either Collins or Grant but not sure how realistic that would be

And relying on late 1sts to land you Jordan Poole/Maxey is like relying on the lottery to pay your rent. Maybe you’ll hit, but odds are that you are going to lose

Yeah, good points all. And it would also require a coach with the mindset to develop and play rookies during the season and potentially unearth a Poole or Maxey type of player that might be a contributor come playoff time. We have the antithesis of that.

[Kobblehead]

I don't really think there's a "picks for veterans" deal that is going to maximize our ability to win a championship. Either Embiid/Harden are capable of delivering it to us or they're not. Which makes it even more important to keep picks to line up the next generation of headliners to go along with Maxey to help carry post-prime Embiid.

The only thing going all in does is ensure that you eventually bottom out and wind up trading Embiid. I don't want to do that. I'd rather Embiid be here for his entire career and our picks help him win an eventual championship in the event that he's unable to be the driving force to a ring in his prime.

[mjkvol]

I don't really think there's a "picks for veterans" deal that is going to maximize our ability to win a championship. Either Embiid/Harden are capable of delivering it to us or they're not. Which makes it even more important to keep picks to line up the next generation of headliners to go along with Maxey to help carry post-prime Embiid.

The only thing going all in does is ensure that you eventually bottom out and wind up trading Embiid. I don't want to do that. I'd rather Embiid be here for his entire career and our picks help him win an eventual championship in the event that he's unable to be the driving force to a ring in his prime.

That's an excellent point. This push to go all-in for a couple years is incredibly shortsighted, and as you said if it isn't going to happen with Embiid, Harden, and Maxey as the core, it just isn't going to happen. There's no reason that smart drafting now can't help in the present and potentially produce a 'late-Duncan' kind of thing here with Embiid, who is only 28.

Only problem is Morey and Rivers aren't the guys you want in a 'build for now and the future' type of plan, they are the antithesis of it. The mindset of the organization and fan base seems to be fixated on this imaginary 'championship window' that has an expiration date of 2024 or 2025. I've fallen into it as well at times, but completely agree with your angle on this.

[ProcessDoctor]

MIN out: Beverley, Beasley
MIN in: Conley, Korkmaz, 2023 ATL/BKN/CHA SRP

PHI out: Green, Thybulle, Korkmaz, 2023 ATL/BKN/CHA SRP
PHI in: Beverley, O’Neale

UTAH out: Conley, O’Neale
UTAH in: Green, Thybulle, Beasley


Harden(20)/Beverley(28)
Maxey(34)/Harden(14)
O’Neale(28)/Niang(20)
MLE(28)/Reed(20)
Embiid(32)/Bassey(16)


Harden/Beverley/Milton
Maxey/Springer/Joe
O’Neale/Niang/#23
(MLE)/Reed/(Vet min)
Embiid/Bassey/Petrusev

[ProcessDoctor]

DAL out: Kleber, Powell, Bullock, J Green, two FRPs
DAL in: Gobert

PHI out: Harris, Thybulle
PHI in: Conley, Kleber, Bullock

UTAH out: Gobert, Conley
UTAH in: Harris, Powell, Thybulle, Green, two DAL FRPs


Harden(20)/Conley(28)
Maxey(34)/Harden(14)
Bullock(28)/Niang(20)
Kleber(28)/Reed(20)
Embiid(32)/Bassey(16)


Harden/Conley/Milton
Maxey/Springer/Joe
Bullock/Korkmaz/#23
Kleber/Reed/Niang
Embiid/Bassey/Petrusev

[the_process]

I don't really think there's a "picks for veterans" deal that is going to maximize our ability to win a championship. Either Embiid/Harden are capable of delivering it to us or they're not. Which makes it even more important to keep picks to line up the next generation of headliners to go along with Maxey to help carry post-prime Embiid.

The only thing going all in does is ensure that you eventually bottom out and wind up trading Embiid. I don't want to do that. I'd rather Embiid be here for his entire career and our picks help him win an eventual championship in the event that he's unable to be the driving force to a ring in his prime.

Sure, we'd all like that. But the San Antonio model requires a world class coach, a great FO, and a lot of luck.

The Sixers are 0 for 3 on those.

So the idea they are going to phase nicely into life after Embiid is pure fantasy IMO. They are going to run this ship into the ground trying to win in the next three years. After that, expect Morey and Glenn to set sail and the Sixers to process again.

[mjkvol]

I don't really think there's a "picks for veterans" deal that is going to maximize our ability to win a championship. Either Embiid/Harden are capable of delivering it to us or they're not. Which makes it even more important to keep picks to line up the next generation of headliners to go along with Maxey to help carry post-prime Embiid.

The only thing going all in does is ensure that you eventually bottom out and wind up trading Embiid. I don't want to do that. I'd rather Embiid be here for his entire career and our picks help him win an eventual championship in the event that he's unable to be the driving force to a ring in his prime.

Sure, we'd all like that. But the San Antonio model requires a world class coach, a great FO, and a lot of luck.

The Sixers are 0 for 3 on those.

So the idea they are going to phase nicely into life after Embiid is pure fantasy IMO. They are going to run this ship into the ground trying to win in the next three years. After that, expect Morey and Glenn to set sail and the Sixers to process again.

As much as I hate to believe that might be true, our track record almost ensures it. I love the idea of building for now and keeping an eye on the future, but if it's Glenn we'll be riding with, I expect it to be two years or bust. With the emphasis on bust.

[PhillyFan11]

Jazz out: Gobert, Conley, Gay
Jazz in: Harris, Heyward, Kai Jones, Jaden Springer, and pick #13

Sixers out: Harris, Springer, ‘23 2nd
Sixers in: Conley, Oubre and Gay

Hornets out: Heyward, Oubre, Kai Jones and pick #13
Hornets in: Goebert

[the_process]

Jazz out: Gobert, Conley, Gay
Jazz in: Harris, Heyward, Kai Jones, Jaden Springer, and pick #13

Sixers out: Harris, Springer, ‘23 2nd
Sixers in: Conley, Oubre and Gay

Hornets out: Heyward, Oubre, Kai Jones and pick #13
Hornets in: Goebert

Try that with ATL instead of CHA and I think you might be on to something.

[ProcessDoctor]

I don't really think there's a "picks for veterans" deal that is going to maximize our ability to win a championship. Either Embiid/Harden are capable of delivering it to us or they're not. Which makes it even more important to keep picks to line up the next generation of headliners to go along with Maxey to help carry post-prime Embiid.

The only thing going all in does is ensure that you eventually bottom out and wind up trading Embiid. I don't want to do that. I'd rather Embiid be here for his entire career and our picks help him win an eventual championship in the event that he's unable to be the driving force to a ring in his prime.

Sure, we'd all like that. But the San Antonio model requires a world class coach, a great FO, and a lot of luck.

The Sixers are 0 for 3 on those.

So the idea they are going to phase nicely into life after Embiid is pure fantasy IMO. They are going to run this ship into the ground trying to win in the next three years. After that, expect Morey and Glenn to set sail and the Sixers to process again.

Agree with both of you a little bit. To me, Donovan Mitchell is the happy medium between the two and seems like the obvious solution to our conundrum. We acquire another win-now star who will elevate our championship odds over the next 2-3 years and continue to remain relevant once Harden is completely toast.

[Sam Hinkie]

Sixers In: OG Annunoby
Sixers Out: Danny Green, Matisse Thybulle, Jaden Springer, 2022 1st

Sign Gary Harris to a 3 year/$30 million deal

Harden
Maxey
Harris
OG
Embiid

We have to get OG. He is the perfect 3/4 for us. And the perfect closing lineup 4.

Sadly I don't think we have enough unless Maxey is in the deal...

[PhillyFan11]

Jazz out: Gobert, Conley, Gay
Jazz in: Harris, Heyward, Kai Jones, Jaden Springer, and pick #13

Sixers out: Harris, Springer, ‘23 2nd
Sixers in: Conley, Oubre and Gay

Hornets out: Heyward, Oubre, Kai Jones and pick #13
Hornets in: Goebert

Try that with ATL instead of CHA and I think you might be on to something.

Tough call making it worth the sixers getting involved/the hawks needing the sixers involved. Would love to think Sixers could get Collins, but highly doubt that’s possible.

Hawks out- Galinari, Capela, Jalen Johnson, Hunter + picks (probably?)
Hawks in- Gobert and Green

Sixers out- Harris and Green (don’t know if sixers would even need to add Springer or a pick)
Sixers in- Galinari, Conley, and Gay

Jazz out- Gobert, Conley and Gay
Jazz in- Capela, Harris, Hunter and Johnson (+ picks from Atl)


It works…just don’t know if I like it for the Sixers.