2021-22 NBA Season Discussion

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Re: 2021-22 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#5781 » by MyUniBroDavis » Sat May 28, 2022 8:51 am

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Peregrine01 wrote:I don’t get Jimmy. How can he have the type of games that he had in games 4 and 5 and then have a game like this?


Yeah I just find myself shaking my head. He seemed cooked...and then he pulls out his finest performance yet.


I think he’s just hurt lol

I feel Jimmy’s the type of guy where you won’t know he’s hurt unless he’s very hurt lol
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Post#5782 » by MyUniBroDavis » Sat May 28, 2022 8:57 am

Spo and his staff has gotta be the best coaching staff in the nba

Especially with Lowry hurt, Jimmy’s been crazy but like 5 of the players are undrafted
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Post#5783 » by Gooner » Sat May 28, 2022 9:24 am

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GSP wrote:After this game Jimmys gonna have 5 playoff gamescore performances of 35+ 3 of which were 40+ in a single postseason..........I think only 18 Bron has done that.................. :o :o


He's literally the anti-Hardan. Meh in the RS, all time spectacular in the PS


He is not meh in the RS. He led his team to 1st seed in the conference. He is just not a stats guy, but his impact is always there.
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Re: 2021-22 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#5784 » by MyUniBroDavis » Sat May 28, 2022 10:21 am

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PaulieWal wrote:
GSP wrote:After this game Jimmys gonna have 5 playoff gamescore performances of 35+ 3 of which were 40+ in a single postseason..........I think only 18 Bron has done that.................. :o :o


He's literally the anti-Hardan. Meh in the RS, all time spectacular in the PS


He is not meh in the RS. He led his team to 1st seed in the conference. He is just not a stats guy, but his impact is always there.


They won at a 49 win pace without him and a 55 win pace with him

Jimmy is great even in the RS but Spo is built different

Also I don’t think his RS performance should matter that much, with how absurd he’s been this postseason. Outside the games he was hurt he’s been the best player by far, with the highest highs too
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Re: 2021-22 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#5785 » by LukaTheGOAT » Sat May 28, 2022 6:39 pm

Curry averaged over 1 lost ball TO per game in the playoffs before this season. It is now 0.13 for this PS. I think his handle has maybe gotten tighter.
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Re: 2021-22 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#5786 » by Doctor MJ » Sat May 28, 2022 6:45 pm

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Doctor MJ wrote:
Peregrine01 wrote:I don’t get Jimmy. How can he have the type of games that he had in games 4 and 5 and then have a game like this?


Yeah I just find myself shaking my head. He seemed cooked...and then he pulls out his finest performance yet.


I think he’s just hurt lol

I feel Jimmy’s the type of guy where you won’t know he’s hurt unless he’s very hurt lol


I have a hard time seeing him bounce back in Game 6 like he did and not think that there's a mental component going on to.

But we've got this Game 7 now, and it's going to be huge. To me, the Celtics should win this series and are clearly the team the Warriors should be more worried about...but all the Heat have to do is win one more game, and if they do with Jimmy playing like this, it'll be legendary.
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Re: 2021-22 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#5787 » by eminence » Sat May 28, 2022 7:10 pm

I think Jimmy and the Heat would need at least a strong performance in a loss territory to get to legendary. Legendary is rare air, if the Warriors put the Heat down relatively easily, did the Heat/Jimmy really separate themselves from Dallas/Luka in that convincing of manner?

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Re: 2021-22 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#5788 » by MyUniBroDavis » Sat May 28, 2022 8:30 pm

Doctor MJ wrote:
MyUniBroDavis wrote:
Doctor MJ wrote:
Yeah I just find myself shaking my head. He seemed cooked...and then he pulls out his finest performance yet.


I think he’s just hurt lol

I feel Jimmy’s the type of guy where you won’t know he’s hurt unless he’s very hurt lol


I have a hard time seeing him bounce back in Game 6 like he did and not think that there's a mental component going on to.

But we've got this Game 7 now, and it's going to be huge. To me, the Celtics should win this series and are clearly the team the Warriors should be more worried about...but all the Heat have to do is win one more game, and if they do with Jimmy playing like this, it'll be legendary.


I definately think he was disheartened and he said the pick me up message from Wade helped, but he definately was looking hurt the last 2 games, even this one to be honest

The Celtics are definately the favorites but there’s something about this Miami team that if they can stay in the game and get off to a good start they can kinda do it, because watching the games it’s kinda crazy that this is a game 7

One thing lost in this is how good the heats defense has been so far

By bball index

Hawks offense
116.5 off rtg
Vs the heat
102.7 off rtg

The 76ers offense since getting harden
119.8 off rtg
Vs the heat
105.7 off rtg

Against the Celtics, it’s mostly brought down by that crazy game 2 where their def rtg was 135, outside of that it’s been about 109.6

Since the start of the new year they’ve been going crazy anyways and have had a 119.4 off rtg

Since new year
119.4 off rtg
Vs the heat
113.9 off rtg
(Take out outlier game and it’s about 109.6)

Another way to look at this is if you order their highest to lowest off rtg games (for bucks and Miami)

Miami 135.1
Bucks 120
Bucks 119.6
Bucks 115.1
Miami 114
Bucks 112.8
Bucks 111.7
Miami 110.9
Miami 110.5
Miami 107.9
Miami 104.5
Bucks 101.5
Bucks 89.7

even with the outlier games I do think the profile of games makes this more impressive for Miami than milwakee.

They’ve essentially played like a -10 defense throughout the playoffs

Obv there are other factors involved, but it’s kinda crazy considering that their team from a personal standpoint isn’t something that makes you think “oh crazy defense”

Like the Celtics have an ABSURD defensive lineup

Smart isn’t my pick for dpoy but he’s probably the best defensive pg in the league
Brown and Tatum are both very elite defensive wings
Grant Williams randomly became absurd on defense and apparently can power bomb giannis
Robert Williams is insane
Horford was probably the best defender on the team
Derrick white is a great team defender

Like, literally 6/8 of their players could be classified as elite defensively, and only Pritchard is actually not good defensively.

The heat in comparison really don’t have a absurd one

Jimmy is great on defense, and bam is great, lowrys been hurt, Duncan and herro are trash defensively, PJ is great, struss/Vincent/Martin are hardly regarded i think, oladipo had been good on d this series

From a Results based perspective it’s not been too far off, although I would definately say the Celtics d is a lot better, the non stars from the nets just went crazy from three, but the fact that if we’re going purely by a relative def rtg (given performance trends) the heat have actually been the “best defense” this postseason (given the three teams all were in the 117-120 range when they faced them) is kinda wild since I wouldn’t even call their defensive lineup elite

I know they mix up coverages to practice them for the playoffs during the RS, but SPO be crazy
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Re: 2021-22 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#5789 » by MyUniBroDavis » Sat May 28, 2022 8:32 pm

eminence wrote:I think Jimmy and the Heat would need at least a strong performance in a loss territory to get to legendary. Legendary is rare air, if the Warriors put the Heat down relatively easily, did the Heat/Jimmy really separate themselves from Dallas/Luka in that convincing of manner?

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Wdym by in a loss territory?
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Re: 2021-22 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#5790 » by eminence » Sat May 28, 2022 8:47 pm

MyUniBroDavis wrote:
eminence wrote:I think Jimmy and the Heat would need at least a strong performance in a loss territory to get to legendary. Legendary is rare air, if the Warriors put the Heat down relatively easily, did the Heat/Jimmy really separate themselves from Dallas/Luka in that convincing of manner?

Champs since best of 7 for 4 rounds that never faced elimination - '03 Spurs, '06 Heat, '07 Spurs, '11 Mavs, '15 Warriors, '17 Warriors, and '20 Lakers.


Wdym by in a loss territory?


"strong performance in a loss territory"

Weird/poor wording on my part. Basically the Heat can't get smoked. Lose a close 6 game series at the least (winning would be the best for them obviously).
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Re: 2021-22 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#5791 » by MyUniBroDavis » Sat May 28, 2022 8:51 pm

eminence wrote:
MyUniBroDavis wrote:
eminence wrote:I think Jimmy and the Heat would need at least a strong performance in a loss territory to get to legendary. Legendary is rare air, if the Warriors put the Heat down relatively easily, did the Heat/Jimmy really separate themselves from Dallas/Luka in that convincing of manner?

Champs since best of 7 for 4 rounds that never faced elimination - '03 Spurs, '06 Heat, '07 Spurs, '11 Mavs, '15 Warriors, '17 Warriors, and '20 Lakers.


Wdym by in a loss territory?


"strong performance in a loss territory"

Weird/poor wording on my part. Basically the Heat can't get smoked. Lose a close 6 game series at the least (winning would be the best for them obviously).


Oh I thought you meant like in lost territory like an unprecedented thing, like butler hitting 40 a game or something in a 7 game win after hitting a three on curry as a buzzer beater with him turning around before it goes in
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Re: 2021-22 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#5792 » by falcolombardi » Sat May 28, 2022 9:15 pm

madrid ability to just win even when they are the worst team is just absurd lol
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Post#5793 » by 70sFan » Sat May 28, 2022 9:27 pm

falcolombardi wrote:madrid ability to just win even when they are the worst team is just absurd lol

Madrid never loses final games, that's what it is.
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Re: 2021-22 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#5794 » by MyUniBroDavis » Sat May 28, 2022 9:29 pm

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falcolombardi wrote:madrid ability to just win even when they are the worst team is just absurd lol

Madrid never loses final games, that's what it is.


Still can’t believe the city choke lol
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Re: 2021-22 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#5795 » by 70sFan » Sat May 28, 2022 9:30 pm

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falcolombardi wrote:madrid ability to just win even when they are the worst team is just absurd lol

Madrid never loses final games, that's what it is.


Still can’t believe the city choke lol

It's not even a choke against Real, as said many times Real is bigger than football.
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Re: 2021-22 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#5796 » by Fadeaway_J » Sat May 28, 2022 9:31 pm

falcolombardi wrote:madrid ability to just win even when they are the worst team is just absurd lol

Knew it would happen after Liverpool failed to score in the first half.
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Re: 2021-22 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#5797 » by MyUniBroDavis » Sat May 28, 2022 9:32 pm

70sFan wrote:
MyUniBroDavis wrote:
70sFan wrote:Madrid never loses final games, that's what it is.


Still can’t believe the city choke lol

It's not even a choke against Real, as said many times Real is bigger than football.


Bro they gave up 3 goals in the time it takes for me to take a dump lol

Liverpool only winning the fa and league cup is mad funny
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Re: 2021-22 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#5798 » by ardee » Sun May 29, 2022 9:20 am

MyUniBroDavis wrote:
70sFan wrote:
MyUniBroDavis wrote:
Still can’t believe the city choke lol

It's not even a choke against Real, as said many times Real is bigger than football.


Bro they gave up 3 goals in the time it takes for me to take a dump lol

Liverpool only winning the fa and league cup is mad funny


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Re: 2021-22 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#5799 » by Gooner » Sun May 29, 2022 11:06 am

70sFan wrote:
MyUniBroDavis wrote:
70sFan wrote:Madrid never loses final games, that's what it is.


Still can’t believe the city choke lol

It's not even a choke against Real, as said many times Real is bigger than football.


Real Madrid just have winning in their DNA. They are lucky to have a guy like Florentino Perez aswell who cultivates that, he would never allow their standards to drop. American owners in football are the worst. Arsenal is owned by the same people who own Denver Nuggets, and they've ruined our club. Once your standards drop, its difficult to recover. Real is one of those teams that are always there. Connection between the fans and the players is crucial and it led them to this trophy.
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Post#5800 » by MartinToVaught » Sun May 29, 2022 2:47 pm

Is it really "DNA," or is it a poorly-designed sport with no parity? I always scratch my head when people complain about American sports not working like soccer, with pro/rel and all that, when you have these teams like Real Madrid who have never been relegated in their 120+ year history and never will be, who have unlimited money to buy any player they want whenever they want, and win the Champions League damn near every year. Never understood the appeal of soccer when every country seems to have a couple teams like this that are insurmountable for anyone else to compete with.
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