***Official 2021-22 Offseason Thread***

[MrDollarBills]

The Nets need to basically move heaven and earth to get two way talent around KD/Kyrie/Ben. Look at what the Warriors look like.

Resign Claxton and let's move from there.

[gigantes]

The Nets need to basically move heaven and earth to get two way talent around KD/Kyrie/Ben. Look at what the Warriors look like.

Resign Claxton and let's move from there.

Man, I love Clax, and I'm still heart-broken about Fro being tossed away as he was as a 'Harden topper,' but if there's an upside?

Day-Ron is a pretty BADASS PLAYER, indeed. My point is that we're in an extreme salary crunch, and this lad might just solve some real issues, next season.

[GTR11]

Looking around the league I noticed that there's more than enough teams that can create cap space. Here's few of them that do it:
1. Duh nix -> can move Obi with Rose to Det/Indy/San An/OKC. Couple 2nd rounders if to make sure they stay happy.
2. ATL-> can move Collins/Gallo combo. There will be takers for sure.
3. CAVS -> Love is expiring. Teams take type contracts.
4. Charlotte-> can dump Oubre 12m for couple 2nd rounders. Sign him up straight up.
5. Kings -> just don't pick DiVichenzo option.
6. Raps -> move FVV for a pick, gives them max slot.
7. PHX -> move Bridges with filler. Sign straight up.
Another 5 teams can just sign him outright without any moves. Than we have teams like Lakers/Nuggets/Miami who going to need our help.

Better question is. What GM willing to give Kyrie max. That contract can easily get them fired. Knowing Kyrie reputation, not many GM's will take that chance.

I think most realistic chance here is LA and NY. Dolan and Buss can take that gamble.

Try again.

1) Shedding Rose & Obi only gets the Knicks to $12mil in space. Not nearly enough for a $42mil max.
2) ATL dumping both Collins & Gallo, while renouncing every FA only gets them to $6mil in space.
3) CLE dumping Love for nothing & renouncing all FAs including Sexton only gets them to $21mil in cap space.
4) CHA dumping Oubre & renouncing every FA including Miles Bridges (not happening) only gets them to $16mil in cap space.
5) SAC renouncing all FAs including DDV gets them to about $6.5mil in cal space.
6) Raps trading FVV for no salary back & renouncing every FA gets them to about $25mil in space.
7) PHX moving Bridges for no salary & renouncing every FA including Ayton gets them to about $10mil in cap space.

Cap is at what, 122 this off-season right. Not all teams will renounce their players. IE Ayton projected to be Ufa, he's own agent says that much. Also Kyrie max stands at 35m.

I took a quick glimpse at the cap. Them teams can create 35m easy if they interested in Kyrie that much. Let's also not forget them teams have exceptions, bi and vet min to fill rest of the roster. So yes, they can create just enough cap space whether you agree or not.

Main issue here as I mentioned is. Will they jeopardize their job losing assets and giving Kyrie full max.

[TheNetsFan]

Looking around the league I noticed that there's more than enough teams that can create cap space. Here's few of them that do it:
1. Duh nix -> can move Obi with Rose to Det/Indy/San An/OKC. Couple 2nd rounders if to make sure they stay happy.
2. ATL-> can move Collins/Gallo combo. There will be takers for sure.
3. CAVS -> Love is expiring. Teams take type contracts.
4. Charlotte-> can dump Oubre 12m for couple 2nd rounders. Sign him up straight up.
5. Kings -> just don't pick DiVichenzo option.
6. Raps -> move FVV for a pick, gives them max slot.
7. PHX -> move Bridges with filler. Sign straight up.
Another 5 teams can just sign him outright without any moves. Than we have teams like Lakers/Nuggets/Miami who going to need our help.

Better question is. What GM willing to give Kyrie max. That contract can easily get them fired. Knowing Kyrie reputation, not many GM's will take that chance.

I think most realistic chance here is LA and NY. Dolan and Buss can take that gamble.

Try again.

1) Shedding Rose & Obi only gets the Knicks to $12mil in space. Not nearly enough for a $42mil max.
2) ATL dumping both Collins & Gallo, while renouncing every FA only gets them to $6mil in space.
3) CLE dumping Love for nothing & renouncing all FAs including Sexton only gets them to $21mil in cap space.
4) CHA dumping Oubre & renouncing every FA including Miles Bridges (not happening) only gets them to $16mil in cap space.
5) SAC renouncing all FAs including DDV gets them to about $6.5mil in cal space.
6) Raps trading FVV for no salary back & renouncing every FA gets them to about $25mil in space.
7) PHX moving Bridges for no salary & renouncing every FA including Ayton gets them to about $10mil in cap space.

Cap is at what, 122 this off-season right. Not all teams will renounce their players. IE Ayton projected to be Ufa, he's own agent says that much. Also Kyrie max stands at 35m.

I took a quick glimpse at the cap. Them teams can create 35m easy if they interested in Kyrie that much. Let's also not forget them teams have exceptions, bi and vet min to fill rest of the roster. So yes, they can create just enough cap space whether you agree or not.

Main issue here as I mentioned is. Will they jeopardize their job losing assets and giving Kyrie full max.

Kyrie's max is just over $42mil. Those teams can't get to $35mil in space easily. Don't believe me? Go use Spotrac's manage a roster feature.

[NetsWorld]

When the dust settles, I expect Kyrie/KD back for one last hoorah and a healthy Simmons, if he's not traded for LeBron. According to Bob Windram, Simmons is in their long term plans so no way they keep an All-Star level player on the roster with ideas to rebuild. If he does get traded for LeBron, Nets would have no choice but to win the 2023 title otherwise they will be the BIGGEST laughing stock of the league and the biggest failure of all time in NBA history. Talk about pressure.

[GTR11]

Try again.

1) Shedding Rose & Obi only gets the Knicks to $12mil in space. Not nearly enough for a $42mil max.
2) ATL dumping both Collins & Gallo, while renouncing every FA only gets them to $6mil in space.
3) CLE dumping Love for nothing & renouncing all FAs including Sexton only gets them to $21mil in cap space.
4) CHA dumping Oubre & renouncing every FA including Miles Bridges (not happening) only gets them to $16mil in cap space.
5) SAC renouncing all FAs including DDV gets them to about $6.5mil in cal space.
6) Raps trading FVV for no salary back & renouncing every FA gets them to about $25mil in space.
7) PHX moving Bridges for no salary & renouncing every FA including Ayton gets them to about $10mil in cap space.

Cap is at what, 122 this off-season right. Not all teams will renounce their players. IE Ayton projected to be Ufa, he's own agent says that much. Also Kyrie max stands at 35m.

I took a quick glimpse at the cap. Them teams can create 35m easy if they interested in Kyrie that much. Let's also not forget them teams have exceptions, bi and vet min to fill rest of the roster. So yes, they can create just enough cap space whether you agree or not.

Main issue here as I mentioned is. Will they jeopardize their job losing assets and giving Kyrie full max.

Kyrie's max is just over $42mil. Those teams can't get to $35mil in space easily. Don't believe me? Go use Spotrac's manage a roster feature.

36.9 ( let's round up call it 37 ) to be exact according sportrac. If we go by projector salary for year after, that's when it's jumps to 41.4 ( that's 2023-24 ). I'm not even sure that's accurate, maybe that's because he's been in the league over 11 years.
This off-season going to be 2022-23..

[TheNetsFan]

Cap is at what, 122 this off-season right. Not all teams will renounce their players. IE Ayton projected to be Ufa, he's own agent says that much. Also Kyrie max stands at 35m.

I took a quick glimpse at the cap. Them teams can create 35m easy if they interested in Kyrie that much. Let's also not forget them teams have exceptions, bi and vet min to fill rest of the roster. So yes, they can create just enough cap space whether you agree or not.

Main issue here as I mentioned is. Will they jeopardize their job losing assets and giving Kyrie full max.

Kyrie's max is just over $42mil. Those teams can't get to $35mil in space easily. Don't believe me? Go use Spotrac's manage a roster feature.

36.9 ( let's round up call it 37 ) to be exact according sportrac. If we go by projector salary for year after, that's when it's jumps to 41.4 ( that's 2023-24 ). I'm not even sure that's accurate, maybe that's because he's been in the league over 11 years.

$36.9mil is his player option, not his max. If he opts out, he's eligible to sign a deal starting at $42,350,000 per Keith Smith. Actual amount is not known until final BRI is calculated and next year's cap set.

[GTR11]

Kyrie's max is just over $42mil. Those teams can't get to $35mil in space easily. Don't believe me? Go use Spotrac's manage a roster feature.

36.9 ( let's round up call it 37 ) to be exact according sportrac. If we go by projector salary for year after, that's when it's jumps to 41.4 ( that's 2023-24 ). I'm not even sure that's accurate, maybe that's because he's been in the league over 11 years.

$36.9mil is his player option, not his max. If he opts out, he's eligible to sign a deal starting at $42,350,000 per Keith Smith. Actual amount is not known until final BRI is calculated and next year's cap set.

Oh ok now I see the reason. Well Keith Smith is not exactly person you should ask or follow when it comes to salary cap. He's been wrong many times before ( I corrected him few times thx to Bobby Marks ) and not exactly the person you should rely upon. My suggestion will be Bobby Marks. He do reply if you get lucky. John Schulman ( original Nets Daily is pretty good too ) be on point as well.

[GTR11]

Projected cap for next season is 122.7 million. Really doubt it'll move or change much.

I really hope I'm wrong and Kyrie's next max contract starts at 42+ m, that'll really handicap him. Unfortunately sportrac say it 37m, that extra 5m changes a lot. More than 5 teams will have to make major sacrifice.

Add the fact you taking Kyrie being Kyrie, that's a job for sure. Entire contract close to 300m, really doubt much of GM's will even entertain it.

[GTR11]

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We should spend BI on Dre and let Nic go. Sharpe is a must develop prospect.

Nic worst enemy is his availability.

[CalamityX12]

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We should spend BI on Dre and let Nic go. Sharpe is a must develop prospect.

Nic worst enemy is his availability.

But is Dre worth that price tag? The way we currently play, he really doesn't match the cost no?

We need a big, yes! But the way we play with lack of creativity for on offense, doesn't sound ideal price wise?

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We should spend BI on Dre and let Nic go. Sharpe is a must develop prospect.

Nic worst enemy is his availability.

But is Dre worth that price tag? The way we currently play, he really doesn't match the cost no?

We need a big, yes! But the way we play with lack of creativity for on offense, doesn't sound ideal price wise?

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BI for the next year 5+ mil. He's worth that if not more. I'm not going to speculate how next year roster going to look like yet. A lot will depend on Kyrie and how much he'll sacrifice ( as crazy as sounds ).
2. Coaches, a lot will depend on them.
3. As I mentioned already. He's availability and price just make to much sense for us to keep him. There's no better options out there unless Mark's willing to make big time move.

Just my opinion.

[NyCeEvO]

Everyone knows that rotations become smaller for the playoffs, but what is so interesting about the modern NBA is that guys who regularly featured and were actually significant contributors to regular season wins are getting completely frozen out and collecting DNPs during the playoffs.

Drummond is an important piece during the regular season, but he gets relegated to the bench in the playoffs because his liabilities outweigh his positive attributes against better competition.

[MrDollarBills]

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We should spend BI on Dre and let Nic go. Sharpe is a must develop prospect.

Nic worst enemy is his availability.

Dre was absolutely worthless against Boston. I'd rather roll with Claxton, Sharpe, and a stretch 5

[gigantes]

When the dust settles, I expect Kyrie/KD back for one last hoorah and a healthy Simmons, if he's not traded for LeBron. According to Bob Windram, Simmons is in their long term plans so no way they keep an All-Star level player on the roster with ideas to rebuild. If he does get traded for LeBron, Nets would have no choice but to win the 2023 title otherwise they will be the BIGGEST laughing stock of the league and the biggest failure of all time in NBA history. Talk about pressure.

I don't mean to pick a fight with you personally, but Robert Windrem's personal opinion means absolutely ZERO to me, at this point.

That mofo is like Proky's official counterpart-- i.e. wherever his opinion winds this day or that, he's absolutely LOCKED in to that opinion, and everyone else is literally a "dunce," or "not a Nets fan."

I've been watching his shenanigans from the old NJ.COM days, around 2000 or so, FWIW. Dude's a massive, self-entitled prick IMO.

[Hello Brooklyn]

I have no interest in bringing Drummond back honestly.

I would rather give his minutes to Claxton and Sharpe.

Hes useless except for rebounding against bad teams in the regular season.

We need to focus on developing young guys who can play with KD/Kyrie. And get some high level 3&D wings.

Having 6 big guys in the playoffs is not going to help at all.

[TheNetsFan]

I have no interest in bringing Drummond back honestly.

I would rather give his minutes to Claxton and Sharpe.

Hes useless except for rebounding against bad teams in the regular season.

We need to focus on developing young guys who can play with KD/Kyrie. And get some high level 3&D wings.

Having 6 big guys in the playoffs is not going to help at all.

I'd bring him back on the minimum. We're not going to get anyone better at that price point. I don't dip into the MLE for him though.

[Hello Brooklyn]

I have no interest in bringing Drummond back honestly.

I would rather give his minutes to Claxton and Sharpe.

Hes useless except for rebounding against bad teams in the regular season.

We need to focus on developing young guys who can play with KD/Kyrie. And get some high level 3&D wings.

Having 6 big guys in the playoffs is not going to help at all.

I'd bring him back on the minimum. We're not going to get anyone better at that price point. I don't dip into the MLE for him though.

If we don't play him its not worth dealing with an unhappy Drummond.

Let him go sign with another team where he can play.

[MrDollarBills]

I have no interest in bringing Drummond back honestly.

I would rather give his minutes to Claxton and Sharpe.

Hes useless except for rebounding against bad teams in the regular season.

We need to focus on developing young guys who can play with KD/Kyrie. And get some high level 3&D wings.

Having 6 big guys in the playoffs is not going to help at all.

I'd bring him back on the minimum. We're not going to get anyone better at that price point. I don't dip into the MLE for him though.

If we don't play him its not worth dealing with an unhappy Drummond.

Let him go sign with another team where he can play.

Obtaining Hartenstein is a much bigger need than signing Drummond. Marks f*cked up by not signing him last offseason.

The more i look at how balanced the rosters are of the teams still remaining, the more i realize how overrated Sean Marks is as a GM.

[GTR11]

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