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Re: Took away the three and first team foul at 4 minute mark of 4th for Boston... 

Post#21 » by Caped Crusader » Mon May 30, 2022 3:45 am

Patches Perry wrote:Officiating sucked for both teams but I've never seen points retroactively wiped off the board several minutes later on an out of bounds call. I thought they just reviewed 2 or 3. Weird for it to show up in a game 7.
Happens several times. This isn't a one off nor is it surprising.

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Re: Took away the three and first team foul at 4 minute mark of 4th for Boston... 

Post#22 » by BK_2020 » Mon May 30, 2022 3:46 am

Patches Perry wrote:Officiating sucked for both teams but I've never seen points retroactively wiped off the board several minutes later on an out of bounds call. I thought they just reviewed 2 or 3. Weird for it to show up in a game 7.

I wouldn't watch any games either if I was an OKC fan.
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Re: Took away the three and first team foul at 4 minute mark of 4th for Boston... 

Post#23 » by MorbidHEAT » Mon May 30, 2022 3:48 am

We lost the game for other reasons, but that 3 taken away killed the momentum we had at that point.

I've never ever seen that happen. Obviously a foot on the line to see if its a 2 or 3 is reviewed. However, to retroactively remove points 10 minutes later because a player may have stepped out of bounds is crazy to me.

I don't know how you police that. Are you checking every play? Are they retroactively going to give somebody a foul for a call that a referee missed? I dont get it.

Nothing to do with it being my team, I would say this for any team.
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Re: Took away the three and first team foul at 4 minute mark of 4th for Boston... 

Post#24 » by Patches Perry » Mon May 30, 2022 3:50 am

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Patches Perry wrote:Officiating sucked for both teams but I've never seen points retroactively wiped off the board several minutes later on an out of bounds call. I thought they just reviewed 2 or 3. Weird for it to show up in a game 7.


This! That was ridiculous and I've never seen that before either, only a 3 changed to a 2, but out of bounds minutes later? Get out of here...


Are refs suppose to make calls based on the awareness of casual fans?


Refs are supposed to make calls as the game happens, and if they wipe full shots off the board several minutes later due to a rule that is rarely used or applied, people might call it bizarre. It doesn't take away from the Celtics win, its just a comment on a single play.
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Re: Took away the three and first team foul at 4 minute mark of 4th for Boston... 

Post#25 » by G R E Y » Mon May 30, 2022 3:51 am

Best not to over focus on these kinds of things. Every play counts. Cs led from start to finish. Heat shot 6-30 from 3, missed 8FTs, got outrebounded on both ends. Take your pick. Plenty of blame to go around.
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Re: Took away the three and first team foul at 4 minute mark of 4th for Boston... 

Post#26 » by MorbidHEAT » Mon May 30, 2022 3:56 am

MorbidHEAT wrote:We lost the game for other reasons, but that 3 taken away killed the momentum we had at that point.

I've never ever seen that happen. Obviously a foot on the line to see if its a 2 or 3 is reviewed. However, to retroactively remove points 10 minutes later because a player may have stepped out of bounds is crazy to me.

I don't know how you police that. Are you checking every play? Are they retroactively going to give somebody a foul for a call that a referee missed? I dont get it.

Nothing to do with it being my team, I would say this for any team.


And I want to make it clear, it was not the reason we lost. Many missed free throws, many stupid decisions, and many missed wide open 3's. I'm going to be thinking about that Jimmy 3 for a long time.

It was just something that shocked me because I've never ever seen that happen, and I don't know how you police that.
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Post#27 » by AussieCeltic » Mon May 30, 2022 3:56 am

MorbidHEAT wrote:We lost the game for other reasons, but that 3 taken away killed the momentum we had at that point.

I've never ever seen that happen. Obviously a foot on the line to see if its a 2 or 3 is reviewed. However, to retroactively remove points 10 minutes later because a player may have stepped out of bounds is crazy to me.

I don't know how you police that. Are you checking every play? Are they retroactively going to give somebody a foul for a call that a referee missed? I dont get it.

Nothing to do with it being my team, I would say this for any team.


Read the thread.

They check every shot. Because he was out of bounds on the shot, they can overturn it. Had it been a few steps before, they can’t. It’s the right call.

Why should the Heat get 3 free points from an obvious out of bounds play?
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Re: Took away the three and first team foul at 4 minute mark of 4th for Boston... 

Post#28 » by Patches Perry » Mon May 30, 2022 3:58 am

BK_2020 wrote:
Patches Perry wrote:Officiating sucked for both teams but I've never seen points retroactively wiped off the board several minutes later on an out of bounds call. I thought they just reviewed 2 or 3. Weird for it to show up in a game 7.

I wouldn't watch any games either if I was an OKC fan.


Seems like a frontrunner thing to say lol.

Either way, some of you are getting really defensive. I already said multiple times in the game threads:
1. Celtics were the better team
2. Both teams got bad calls

Go drink or some ****, it's a holiday weekend and your team just made the finals. Coming up on here and taking offense to harmless comments is a waste of time.
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Re: Took away the three and first team foul at 4 minute mark of 4th for Boston... 

Post#29 » by BK_2020 » Mon May 30, 2022 3:59 am

Patches Perry wrote:
BK_2020 wrote:
Patches Perry wrote:Officiating sucked for both teams but I've never seen points retroactively wiped off the board several minutes later on an out of bounds call. I thought they just reviewed 2 or 3. Weird for it to show up in a game 7.

I wouldn't watch any games either if I was an OKC fan.


Seems like a frontrunner thing to say lol.

Either way, some of you are getting really defensive. I already said multiple times in the game threads:
1. Celtics were the better team
2. Both teams got bad calls

Go drink or some ****, it's a holiday weekend and your team just made the finals. Coming up on here and taking offense to harmless comments is a waste of time.

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Post#30 » by Raps in 4 » Mon May 30, 2022 4:00 am

It was completely egregious to take off 3 points for something inconclusive.

Having said that, at least the Heat didn't lose because of it. They lost because they sucked.
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Re: Took away the three and first team foul at 4 minute mark of 4th for Boston... 

Post#31 » by Patches Perry » Mon May 30, 2022 4:00 am

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Patches Perry wrote:Officiating sucked for both teams but I've never seen points retroactively wiped off the board several minutes later on an out of bounds call. I thought they just reviewed 2 or 3. Weird for it to show up in a game 7.
Happens several times. This isn't a one off nor is it surprising.

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I'd need some data in order to believe this happens all the time. I do watch a lot of games and can't recall that happening (which doesn't make it wrong, just rare).
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Re: Took away the three and first team foul at 4 minute mark of 4th for Boston... 

Post#32 » by Patches Perry » Mon May 30, 2022 4:01 am

BK_2020 wrote:
Patches Perry wrote:
BK_2020 wrote:I wouldn't watch any games either if I was an OKC fan.


Seems like a frontrunner thing to say lol.

Either way, some of you are getting really defensive. I already said multiple times in the game threads:
1. Celtics were the better team
2. Both teams got bad calls

Go drink or some ****, it's a holiday weekend and your team just made the finals. Coming up on here and taking offense to harmless comments is a waste of time.

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Post#33 » by robbie84 » Mon May 30, 2022 4:02 am

Didn't same thing happen to Hornets in play in games?
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Re: Took away the three and first team foul at 4 minute mark of 4th for Boston... 

Post#34 » by bs_and_cs » Mon May 30, 2022 4:03 am

No one's talking about it...but is that not a travel by Strus?
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Re: Took away the three and first team foul at 4 minute mark of 4th for Boston... 

Post#35 » by Caped Crusader » Mon May 30, 2022 4:04 am

Patches Perry wrote:
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Patches Perry wrote:Officiating sucked for both teams but I've never seen points retroactively wiped off the board several minutes later on an out of bounds call. I thought they just reviewed 2 or 3. Weird for it to show up in a game 7.
Happens several times. This isn't a one off nor is it surprising.

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I'd need some data in order to believe this happens all the time. I do watch a lot of games and can't recall that happening (which doesn't make it wrong, just rare).
Happens quite often whenever the Raptors play. I can attest to that. Don't have actual stats to back it up except that I have seen it with my own eyes multiple times.

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Post#36 » by srhcan » Mon May 30, 2022 4:04 am

bradybunch wrote:Discuss...

Videos of the plays?
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Post#37 » by durden_tyler » Mon May 30, 2022 4:05 am

That was a big call but Jimmy Butler pulling up for 3 with seconds left was the key moment of the game :lol:
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Re: Took away the three and first team foul at 4 minute mark of 4th for Boston... 

Post#38 » by Wolfgang630 » Mon May 30, 2022 4:05 am

I watched the replay and it doesn’t look like his foot comes on the line. Idk why people keep saying they didn’t lose because of this. Yes, this was a huge deal. It didn’t change the flow of the game. They didn’t change it during the middle of a play. This was honestly to big of a deal for the media to not discuss tomorrow.
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Re: Took away the three and first team foul at 4 minute mark of 4th for Boston... 

Post#39 » by bstein14 » Mon May 30, 2022 4:07 am

bs_and_cs wrote:No one's talking about it...but is that not a travel by Strus?


It's 100% a travel as written in the rules for HS basketball in the state of Michigan, and in college basketball. I feel like in the NBA they let players take a hop on a gather when they go to shoot.... its similar to the hop back on a shot where a player often already has gathered the ball and isn't dribbling on that move.

Would have been a travel in the NBA 10 years ago but they allow players to hop, gather, eurostep, etc differently today than they used to.
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Post#40 » by ITYSL » Mon May 30, 2022 4:15 am

Glad they got the calls right!

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