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Post#281 » by Eatgreenz » Mon May 30, 2022 12:46 am

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Post#284 » by GTR11 » Mon May 30, 2022 1:50 am

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This meeting between Pelinka and Marks has me all over the place :lol: . Just going to withhold my thoughts for a while.
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Post#285 » by GTR11 » Mon May 30, 2022 1:54 am

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We should spend BI on Dre and let Nic go. Sharpe is a must develop prospect.

Nic worst enemy is his availability.


Dre was absolutely worthless against Boston. I'd rather roll with Claxton, Sharpe, and a stretch 5

Claxton haven't been available for more than 40 games a season one time in three years.
Sharpe is a project player who has major hill to climb in order to be reliable rotation guy.
We absolutely going to need Dre.
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Post#286 » by GTR11 » Mon May 30, 2022 1:57 am

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Doing my research on him right now. Sound like you know a bit. How is he with X and 0, any play style he prefers?
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Post#287 » by Eatgreenz » Mon May 30, 2022 3:12 am

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Phil Handy now we're talking. A real leader n coach on the sidelines. His great developing players to. Already got relationships with kyrie

Doing my research on him right now. Sound like you know a bit. How is he with X and 0, any play style he prefers?

His real leader type players will listen to. One of kobes guy as a coach and trainer. Kobe hooked him with kyrie. Has knowledge of the game. Not really sure of his x and o.
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Re: ***Official 2021-22 Offseason Thread*** 

Post#288 » by MrDollarBills » Mon May 30, 2022 3:19 am

The Nets need 100% dedication to winning from players 1 to 15 on this roster. If we don't have that from day 1 in September, we won't win.

I don't have any faith in Kyrie or Simmons. Boston and Golden State are on an entirely different level with guys who are all in and don't just view this as a job.
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Post#289 » by Tha King » Mon May 30, 2022 4:43 pm

Celtics (1st ranked defense/9th offense) vs. Warriors (2nd ranked defense/16th offense)

If Claxton returns then Durant/Simmons/Claxton is a very good start to a top 10 level defense, would need an athletic 3+D wing next to them though

Thoughts on Edwards/Sharpe? Think both could be major contributors next season with Edwards even a starter as that 3+D wing.
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Post#290 » by GTR11 » Mon May 30, 2022 6:46 pm

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I will irate if Marks will claim pick this year. Not only it's poor, it also going to limit our potential for a trade.

In worst case, Biid will have another MVP and healthy season while pick still being in mid 20's. Best case, we end up picking in a lottery. Absolutely no reason to have a pick this year.
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Post#291 » by MrDollarBills » Mon May 30, 2022 6:47 pm

Tha King wrote:Celtics (1st ranked defense/9th offense) vs. Warriors (2nd ranked defense/16th offense)

If Claxton returns then Durant/Simmons/Claxton is a very good start to a top 10 level defense, would need an athletic 3+D wing next to them though

Thoughts on Edwards/Sharpe? Think both could be major contributors next season with Edwards even a starter as that 3+D wing.


I think Edwards and Sharpe will be good pieces. The issue is that we can't have Ben and Claxton on the floor at the same time.
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Post#292 » by NetsWorld » Tue May 31, 2022 12:35 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
Tha King wrote:Celtics (1st ranked defense/9th offense) vs. Warriors (2nd ranked defense/16th offense)

If Claxton returns then Durant/Simmons/Claxton is a very good start to a top 10 level defense, would need an athletic 3+D wing next to them though

Thoughts on Edwards/Sharpe? Think both could be major contributors next season with Edwards even a starter as that 3+D wing.


I think Edwards and Sharpe will be good pieces. The issue is that we can't have Ben and Claxton on the floor at the same time.



Simmons with four shooters would be an ideal lineup. Two of those shooters need to be at least 6'6-6'8 in height. Harris covers one and you need someone else to cover the other. Curry and Mills are too small. Kyrie on the floor negates having to put those two on the floor unless it makes sense to go small. Simmons could start at the C spot but work as a PG on the floor.
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Post#293 » by GTR11 » Tue May 31, 2022 1:59 pm

Patty and Curry ain't going nowhere. Having both for less than 15m is bargain. Now should we have them on the floor at the same time is a different question. Will depend on match ups. Them other teams have depth quality questions too.

Ideally, we trade Joe for Turner + low pick, maybe even Olynyk if situation presents. Hartenstien will be unplayable come PO, he's a depth guy for regular season.
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Post#294 » by MrDollarBills » Tue May 31, 2022 2:59 pm

GTR11 wrote:Patty and Curry ain't going nowhere. Having both for less than 15m is bargain. Now should we have them on the floor at the same time is a different question. Will depend on match ups. Them other teams have depth quality questions too.

Ideally, we trade Joe for Turner + low pick, maybe even Olynyk if situation presents. Hartenstien will be unplayable come PO, he's a depth guy for regular season.


Can we really afford to trade Joe? We need as many wings with size as possible that can shoot

I would let Patty walk tbh. I love the guy but Seth already fills that need.

Ideally, we need Simmons/Irving in the backcourt, KD/Harris at 3 + 4 and then we need a stretch 5. Turner would fit that role since he's a career 35% 3point shooter but we need Harris more than we need Turner imo unless Marks can find a replacement with the MLE money

We might need to see if we can nab Otto Porter Jr, Thad Young, or Markief Morris in free agency. Taurean Prince might be another option as well.

Marks needs to get this roster balanced. Carrying 6 centers was an embarrassment. As bad as Nash was, Marks did him no favors with how the roster looked pre and post Harden trade.
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Post#295 » by Hello Brooklyn » Tue May 31, 2022 3:57 pm

Tha King wrote:Celtics (1st ranked defense/9th offense) vs. Warriors (2nd ranked defense/16th offense)

If Claxton returns then Durant/Simmons/Claxton is a very good start to a top 10 level defense, would need an athletic 3+D wing next to them though

Thoughts on Edwards/Sharpe? Think both could be major contributors next season with Edwards even a starter as that 3+D wing.


Player development needs to be the main focus. Rather than adding washed vets.

We need Edwards and Sharpe to become rotations players.

They have both shown enough.

I wanted Edwards to be our main 3&D guy this season. I could even see him starting. The work starts now.
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Post#296 » by GTR11 » Tue May 31, 2022 10:00 pm

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GTR11 wrote:Patty and Curry ain't going nowhere. Having both for less than 15m is bargain. Now should we have them on the floor at the same time is a different question. Will depend on match ups. Them other teams have depth quality questions too.

Ideally, we trade Joe for Turner + low pick, maybe even Olynyk if situation presents. Hartenstien will be unplayable come PO, he's a depth guy for regular season.


Can we really afford to trade Joe? We need as many wings with size as possible that can shoot

I would let Patty walk tbh. I love the guy but Seth already fills that need.

Ideally, we need Simmons/Irving in the backcourt, KD/Harris at 3 + 4 and then we need a stretch 5. Turner would fit that role since he's a career 35% 3point shooter but we need Harris more than we need Turner imo unless Marks can find a replacement with the MLE money

We might need to see if we can nab Otto Porter Jr, Thad Young, or Markief Morris in free agency. Taurean Prince might be another option as well.

Marks needs to get this roster balanced. Carrying 6 centers was an embarrassment. As bad as Nash was, Marks did him no favors with how the roster looked pre and post Harden trade.

Kess in 48 games, attempted 2.8 3's per game and shot at 35% rate. With KD and Kess on the floor, combinations of players had better D rating compared when those two didn't play together.

Adding Turner with low 1st rd pick will do much more help. Pretty much solidify C position for years to come. Having Ben makes Nic unplayable, he also miss way to many games. That's on top of him not being able to make FT. Sharpe? What exactly do we know about him. Add the fact it takes couple years for C's to develop, I think emergence of Kess makes Joe expendable.

I would look around for another 3pt shooting SF for much lesser salary.

Patty championship caliber contributor. Him being Ben's besty and keeping him stable is very valuable. As I mentioned before, his salary is cherry on top.
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Post#297 » by GTR11 » Tue May 31, 2022 10:21 pm

Looks like we deferred this years Philthy pick. Good move by Marks. Now we can safely discuss DDJ's role next year.
Should we give Brown that mMLE.
Should we bring Mike James back from Europe or give mMLE to Dragic and hope he takes it.

Unlike most, I think we need stretch C and playmaking PG. As some mentioned, carrying 6 C on a roster is not an option. Also true is that we had no playmaker and lost way to many games due to it. I think finding 3nD guy through FA is much easier ( just look at FA on spotrac ).
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Re: ***Official 2021-22 Offseason Thread*** 

Post#298 » by GTR11 » Tue May 31, 2022 10:32 pm

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Tha King wrote:Celtics (1st ranked defense/9th offense) vs. Warriors (2nd ranked defense/16th offense)

If Claxton returns then Durant/Simmons/Claxton is a very good start to a top 10 level defense, would need an athletic 3+D wing next to them though

Thoughts on Edwards/Sharpe? Think both could be major contributors next season with Edwards even a starter as that 3+D wing.


Player development needs to be the main focus. Rather than adding washed vets.

We need Edwards and Sharpe to become rotations players.

They have both shown enough.

I wanted Edwards to be our main 3&D guy this season. I could even see him starting. The work starts now.

For players to be developed you need system to groom them into. Kess being traditional 3nD guy is the only reason he had success this year. Sharpe and DDJ were unplayable.

Thinking Steve Trash was brought here to manage ego's and failing to handle JJ and KD situation, Kyrie, Harden I mean where do I stop. He also has no clue how to install any system that can produce team offense. We run over 70% iso plays ( correct me if I'm mistaken, statmuse has it ), we literally live and die by it.

Borega actually been creative offensive coordinator. I'd love him to come over and design some kind of offense that'll fit next years team. Here's hoping he'll be Marks extension in coaching.
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Re: ***Official 2021-22 Offseason Thread*** 

Post#299 » by CalamityX12 » Thu Jun 2, 2022 1:48 pm

Not posted but the Brooklyn Nets deferred the first rd pick of the 76ers this year into next year.

I was for keeping it but after awhile, I'm ok with holding on for a better possible landing spot. But then I hear about it being used as a trade asset and that really puts me down. Ever since we traded our first for stupid Shamet (then our soul for Harden), I felt it's been one major damage after another with additions and trades...

There hasn't been any improvement.

Yet, where is all the money going to? KD has it and justifiably but where is the rest? Like if Ky leaves one would automatically think we have cap space but no, not the case....
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Re: ***Official 2021-22 Offseason Thread*** 

Post#300 » by GTR11 » Sat Jun 4, 2022 5:06 pm

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