Post-Mortem: 2021-22 Miami Heat

[Woodsanity]

They need a third banana. Lowry is not the guy at all.

More like second banana. Bam is 3rd option material tops tbh.

[Scalabrine]

Worst home crowd I've ever seen in a game 7.

That was absolutely insane. So many people just sitting down with there arms folded.

[Heat3]

Big changes aren’t needed imo. It’s not like Heat got swept from ECF. They had a chance. Heat were over the cap and got Butler. If another top player wants to be on the Heat a deal can get done.

They need another scoring option. Unfortunately Herro was unavailable for many games and Bam is just not assertive enough to score when it is needed. We had a guy in Whiteside that wanted to score every time and now we have someone in the other direction that needs to be told to score instead of only doing team stuff.

[Kurtz]

**** no to Julius Randle lmao

I would rather keep Duncan than trade for Randle lollll

I'd trade Duncan for Julius. That's the best I've got. Not giving up Herro for him.

I think people are seeping on Randle a little bit. His problem is mental - if you can get him to give a full effort on defense and play within the offense, he's a big asset and a perfect fit on Miami. And Miami has the leadership in place to do just that.

[Birdon]

With Spo as the coach, you guys will always be a threat.

[Bobbymcgee]

Tough when your team's fourth highest paid player is unplayable and glued to the bench. Especially, since the Heat really needed some three point shooting in game 7 and that's why Robinson was signed to that contract in the first place. All their three point shooters choked in game 7 pretty much.

[NZB2323]

I think they’ll find a way to improve. They always do. It might not be next year, or the year after next, but they have a good GM and Miami is a solid free agent destination so they’ll always be a suitor for disgruntled stars demanding a trade or leaving in free agency.

[BenoUdrihFTL]

Assuming father time finally wins and Lowry becomes a bench player / PJ becomes washed, they have a maxed out roster that is a 5-8 seed next year.

Then again, Miami will probably tamper, get fined with a 2035 second round pick and get Dame on a discount to give them that extra boost to put them back in ECF contenders.

Lmao imagine still being this salty from the bubble series two years ago. I get that you were embarrassed that series but you guys won a chip since then, there's zero reason for Miami to still be balls deep in so many Bucks fans' heads

[KamikazeK]

Get Bradley Beal.

Adebayo is not a 2nd option!

We'll swap Horford for Adebayo, who says no?

[KingDavid]

I don't think they need a big change - just need a bit more playable size and secondary scoring. Something around Duncan Robinson+Herro for Julius Randle might be a win-win. He'd fit their physical style and adds a little bit of secondary playmaking. Oladipo can take over the Herro role, as he'll likely look better next year.

Herro is too much to give up in this trade, but something like Robinson + a draft pick for Randle could have merit. I'm not sure the Knicks would have any interest in that contract tho and might counter back with using Oladipo's bird rights in a sign and trade. But Randle is the kind of low cost, secondary scoring option that a team like Miami can justify rolling the dice on, especially if it gets them off the Duncan Robinson contract.

Also - the Robinson/Lowry for Westbrook thing could make some sense. Westbrook is a better fit on the Heat roster and worst case for Miami, they get off the Lowry/Robinson contracts. Lakers bank on Lowry being a better fit with their group and Robinson being a servable shooter.

Run out a lineup of Westbrook-Butler-Tucker-Randle-Bam with Herro, Struss, and Vincent coming off the bench. The lineup is a little light on shooting, but plays Miami Heat style defense with more shot creation than they currently have. More importantly, they clean up the books long term.

It's a tough balance for Miami to strike as the window to win around Jimmy given his age is limited, but you also don't want to rush into anything that sets you back during a rebuild that is 2-3 years away. Unless you get a Dame Lillard type who forces his way to Miami in a trade - which given where the league is today very well could happen - it's hard to justify going all-in rather than just being economical around the edges.

Westbrook?!

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

Assuming father time finally wins and Lowry becomes a bench player / PJ becomes washed, they have a maxed out roster that is a 5-8 seed next year.

Then again, Miami will probably tamper, get fined with a 2035 second round pick and get Dame on a discount to give them that extra boost to put them back in ECF contenders.

Lmao imagine still being this salty from the bubble series two years ago. I get that you were embarrassed that series but you guys won a chip since then, there's zero reason for Miami to still be balls deep in so many Bucks fans' heads

Don't think I'm salty about the heat.

I'm salty the NBA came down harder on the Bucks for a trade that never happened then they did on the Heat when the Heat actually got Lowry after tampering. Bucks having Bogi would've been huge this year.

I think the Heat we're awesome this year, but age is a huge issue with them if Herro doesn't turn it around.

[AussieCeltic]

I don't think they need a big change - just need a bit more playable size and secondary scoring. Something around Duncan Robinson+Herro for Julius Randle might be a win-win. He'd fit their physical style and adds a little bit of secondary playmaking. Oladipo can take over the Herro role, as he'll likely look better next year.

Herro is too much to give up in this trade, but something like Robinson + a draft pick for Randle could have merit. I'm not sure the Knicks would have any interest in that contract tho and might counter back with using Oladipo's bird rights in a sign and trade. But Randle is the kind of low cost, secondary scoring option that a team like Miami can justify rolling the dice on, especially if it gets them off the Duncan Robinson contract.

Also - the Robinson/Lowry for Westbrook thing could make some sense. Westbrook is a better fit on the Heat roster and worst case for Miami, they get off the Lowry/Robinson contracts. Lakers bank on Lowry being a better fit with their group and Robinson being a servable shooter.

Run out a lineup of Westbrook-Butler-Tucker-Randle-Bam with Herro, Struss, and Vincent coming off the bench. The lineup is a little light on shooting, but plays Miami Heat style defense with more shot creation than they currently have. More importantly, they clean up the books long term.

It's a tough balance for Miami to strike as the window to win around Jimmy given his age is limited, but you also don't want to rush into anything that sets you back during a rebuild that is 2-3 years away. Unless you get a Dame Lillard type who forces his way to Miami in a trade - which given where the league is today very well could happen - it's hard to justify going all-in rather than just being economical around the edges.

Well for one… I have high doubts the Knicks are trading Julius Randle for Duncan Robinson and late first round picks. The deals are the same length and I think I’d much rather pay a guy who is a fringe all star an extra $10m per year to a guy who can’t get off the bench in key playoff games even with injuries to other players.

For second, in your hypothetical, you’ve traded Duncan Robinson twice.

[165bows]

Assuming father time finally wins and Lowry becomes a bench player / PJ becomes washed, they have a maxed out roster that is a 5-8 seed next year.

Then again, Miami will probably tamper, get fined with a 2035 second round pick and get Dame on a discount to give them that extra boost to put them back in ECF contenders.

Lillard makes a ton of sense for both teams. Herro, bad salary plus pick/pick swaps ~3 years out. Both teams could get a lot of value out of it.

I disagree with the both teams part. Team fans tend to do a poor job of looking at the perspective of the other team they are trying to fleece with their imaginary trades.

Lol I’m not a fan of either team.

As a basketball fan though I am a fan of receiving draft picks from teams owing $100M to 35 year olds.

[Fencer reregistered]

I'm wondering about Miami's big man talent after Bam. When Miami had good injury luck in these playoffs, it was usually that opponents' centers were hurt.

[BK_2020]

They have Yurtseven hhaha

[BBallFreak]

They have Yurtseven hhaha

Why is that something to laugh at? He'd start for Brooklyn.

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[hugepatsfan]

Big changes aren’t needed imo. It’s not like Heat got swept from ECF. They had a chance. Heat were over the cap and got Butler. If another top player wants to be on the Heat a deal can get done.

They need another scoring option. Unfortunately Herro was unavailable for many games and Bam is just not assertive enough to score when it is needed. We had a guy in Whiteside that wanted to score every time and now we have someone in the other direction that needs to be told to score instead of only doing team stuff.

Herro got injured but can't look past the troubling signs with him. Each of the last 2 years Herro is a guy whose minutes go DOWN in the playoffs vs the regular season. That can't be the case for your #2 scorer. Championship teams need guys whose minutes can scale UP during shortened playoff rotations. If Herro can't defend well enough to play 35+ minutes in the playoffs then he's not viable #2 scorer for a championship team because he simply won't be out there enough to be.

[LewisnotMiller]

Get Bradley Beal.

Adebayo is not a 2nd option!

We'll swap Horford for Adebayo, who says no?

Heh...not touching that.
But I think in general terms that's what you want next to Bam...a centre, but not a lumbering one. Someone that can hold his own defensively, and let Bam roam.

Bam would look great in the Rob Williams role, basically, and as a third option offensively.

[Heat3]

Big changes aren’t needed imo. It’s not like Heat got swept from ECF. They had a chance. Heat were over the cap and got Butler. If another top player wants to be on the Heat a deal can get done.

They need another scoring option. Unfortunately Herro was unavailable for many games and Bam is just not assertive enough to score when it is needed. We had a guy in Whiteside that wanted to score every time and now we have someone in the other direction that needs to be told to score instead of only doing team stuff.

Herro got injured but can't look past the troubling signs with him. Each of the last 2 years Herro is a guy whose minutes go DOWN in the playoffs vs the regular season. That can't be the case for your #2 scorer. Championship teams need guys whose minutes can scale UP during shortened playoff rotations. If Herro can't defend well enough to play 35+ minutes in the playoffs then he's not viable #2 scorer for a championship team because he simply won't be out there enough to be.

His minutes went down because there were several blowouts. No need to play 35 mins when your team is up 25 or down 25 for that matter. They were sitting in the 4th. Then there is the game he got hurt where he left early and the last game where he tried to play but only got a few mins.

[hugepatsfan]

Big changes aren’t needed imo. It’s not like Heat got swept from ECF. They had a chance. Heat were over the cap and got Butler. If another top player wants to be on the Heat a deal can get done.

They need another scoring option. Unfortunately Herro was unavailable for many games and Bam is just not assertive enough to score when it is needed. We had a guy in Whiteside that wanted to score every time and now we have someone in the other direction that needs to be told to score instead of only doing team stuff.

Herro got injured but can't look past the troubling signs with him. Each of the last 2 years Herro is a guy whose minutes go DOWN in the playoffs vs the regular season. That can't be the case for your #2 scorer. Championship teams need guys whose minutes can scale UP during shortened playoff rotations. If Herro can't defend well enough to play 35+ minutes in the playoffs then he's not viable #2 scorer for a championship team because he simply won't be out there enough to be.

His minutes went down because there were several blowouts. No need to play 35 mins when your team is up 25 or down 25 for that matter. They were sitting in the 4th. Then there is the game he got hurt where he left early and the last game where he tried to play but only got a few mins.

He didn’t log 34 minutes in a single game this postseason. There’s some degree of truth to what you’re saying but the larger point still remains. Tatum/Brown/Butler/Adebayo all played 36 minutes/game or more in this series and each had games up over 40. If Herro is going to be given a role as important on their team as the #2 scorer then he needs to be able to play that sort of workload because you’re #2 scorer has to be playing that much. Even if the blowouts are a part of his lower minutes, he’s not proved to Spo that he can be depended on that much even in games that come down to the wire.