How many years of Nash over ’22 Jimmy Butler?

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How many years of Nash over ’22 Jimmy Butler? 

Post#1 » by Matt15 » Wed Jun 1, 2022 2:04 am

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Post#2 » by rate_ » Wed Jun 1, 2022 2:36 am

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Peak Nash (2007):
RS 19/4/12 | 23.8 PER | .225 WS/48 | 5.9 BPM
PS 19/3/13 | 21.9 PER | .165 WS/48 | 5.2 BPM (11 games)

22 Jimmy
RS 21/6/6 | 23.6 PER | .228 WS/48 | 6.3 BPM
PS 27/7/5 | 29.9 PER | .290 WS/48 | 11.8 BPM (17 games)

Elite wing > elite guard. And, the size defensively is enormous.
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Post#3 » by Narigo » Wed Jun 1, 2022 2:53 am

05-07 maybe 2010
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Re: How many years of Nash over ’22 Jimmy Butler? 

Post#4 » by falcolombardi » Wed Jun 1, 2022 3:00 am

i think nash is one of the most brillian offensive players ever

butler is a much better defender

depends on my team roster but i would pick nash over butlet to start a team

nash 2005-2010 for me
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Re: How many years of Nash over ’22 Jimmy Butler? 

Post#5 » by sp6r=underrated » Wed Jun 1, 2022 3:23 am

I'm assuming this question means how many season version of Nash would you draft ahead of 2022 Jimmy Butler. 2002 to 2009 are no question. 2001 and 2010 are possible.

I'm extremely confident that there is no difference between 2002 to 2004 Nash and 2005 to 2006 Nash. I'm less of a believer in 2010 Nash than others who I think had significant defensive limitations and were completely off 2011. I'm not as confident in 2001 Nash.
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Re: How many years of Nash over ’22 Jimmy Butler? 

Post#6 » by LukaTheGOAT » Wed Jun 1, 2022 3:32 am

sp6r=underrated wrote:I'm assuming this question means how many season version of Nash would you draft ahead of 2022 Jimmy Butler. 2002 to 2009 are no question. 2001 and 2010 are possible.

I'm extremely confident that there is no difference between 2002 to 2004 Nash and 2005 to 2006 Nash. I'm less of a believer in 2010 Nash than others who I think had significant defensive limitations and were completely off 2011. I'm not as confident in 2001 Nash.


You believe 02-04 Nash was an MVP level guy?
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Re: How many years of Nash over ’22 Jimmy Butler? 

Post#7 » by sp6r=underrated » Wed Jun 1, 2022 3:43 am

LukaTheGOAT wrote:
sp6r=underrated wrote:I'm assuming this question means how many season version of Nash would you draft ahead of 2022 Jimmy Butler. 2002 to 2009 are no question. 2001 and 2010 are possible.

I'm extremely confident that there is no difference between 2002 to 2004 Nash and 2005 to 2006 Nash. I'm less of a believer in 2010 Nash than others who I think had significant defensive limitations and were completely off 2011. I'm not as confident in 2001 Nash.


You believe 02-04 Nash was an MVP level guy?


If you built your team around him, yes.
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Re: How many years of Nash over ’22 Jimmy Butler? 

Post#8 » by trex_8063 » Thu Jun 2, 2022 1:50 am

Kinda depends on roster construction. In a vacuum, I maybe take '05-'07 Nash over him, but I'd wager that's it.
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Re: How many years of Nash over ’22 Jimmy Butler? 

Post#9 » by No-more-rings » Thu Jun 2, 2022 2:29 am

2005-2007.
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Re: How many years of Nash over ’22 Jimmy Butler? 

Post#10 » by No-more-rings » Thu Jun 2, 2022 2:33 am

sp6r=underrated wrote:I'm assuming this question means how many season version of Nash would you draft ahead of 2022 Jimmy Butler. 2002 to 2009 are no question. 2001 and 2010 are possible.

I'm extremely confident that there is no difference between 2002 to 2004 Nash and 2005 to 2006 Nash. I'm less of a believer in 2010 Nash than others who I think had significant defensive limitations and were completely off 2011. I'm not as confident in 2001 Nash.

With a guy who was always a negative on defense, I doubt that should be a difference maker comparing 2010 to other years.
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Re: How many years of Nash over ’22 Jimmy Butler? 

Post#11 » by No-more-rings » Thu Jun 2, 2022 2:35 am

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Peak Nash (2007):
RS 19/4/12 | 23.8 PER | .225 WS/48 | 5.9 BPM
PS 19/3/13 | 21.9 PER | .165 WS/48 | 5.2 BPM (11 games)

22 Jimmy
RS 21/6/6 | 23.6 PER | .228 WS/48 | 6.3 BPM
PS 27/7/5 | 29.9 PER | .290 WS/48 | 11.8 BPM (17 games)

Elite wing > elite guard. And, the size defensively is enormous.

Nash is monsterously underrated by those box scores though.
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Re: How many years of Nash over ’22 Jimmy Butler? 

Post#12 » by sp6r=underrated » Thu Jun 2, 2022 2:37 am

No-more-rings wrote:
sp6r=underrated wrote:I'm assuming this question means how many season version of Nash would you draft ahead of 2022 Jimmy Butler. 2002 to 2009 are no question. 2001 and 2010 are possible.

I'm extremely confident that there is no difference between 2002 to 2004 Nash and 2005 to 2006 Nash. I'm less of a believer in 2010 Nash than others who I think had significant defensive limitations and were completely off 2011. I'm not as confident in 2001 Nash.

With a guy who was always a negative on defense, I doubt that should be a difference maker comparing 2010 to other years.


you are too binary in your thinking
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Re: How many years of Nash over ’22 Jimmy Butler? 

Post#13 » by ardee » Thu Jun 2, 2022 10:03 pm

2005 Nash had a Playoffs just as impressive as the one Jimmy just did, possibly even moreso, and that wasn't even the peak of his abilities.

I'd take 2005-07 for sure, possibly 2010 too.

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