Who do you want us to take at #1?

[JBSouthpaw]

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Kind of interesting.

[tiderulz]

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Kind of interesting.

big fan of his. i believe he will be a better pro than most people think

[basketballRob]

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[Magic4champ]

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[zaymon]

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Just listened. While i mostly agree about Paolo and Banchero he completely changed his narrative while talking about Jabari. He lost all the professionalism and realism, changing almost into a groupie.
Poor finishing is not a huge worry, poor handle is not a huge worry becouse he can shoot over college kids with 1-2 dribbles.....
Comparing Smith to young Tatum and Ingram is pure manipulation. You can read their scouting reports and watch film. Handle, foot work, fluid athletecism, slashing to the rim were so much different.

[MartinsIzAfraud]

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Kind of interesting.

this would be your trade back and grab as many assets as possible plan.

[BCS]

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Really interesting. They plan to trade down? Or trying to get another top 5 pick?

Not necessarily, the Magic are known for "collecting data". They bring in a lot of players they have no intention selecting. If you gave them a choice between bringing in the guy they 100% want vs a guy they 100% won't pick, they choose the latter.

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[tiderulz]

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Really interesting. They plan to trade down? Or trying to get another top 5 pick?

Not necessarily, the Magic are known for "collecting data". They bring in a lot of players they have no intention selecting. If you gave them a choice between bringing in the guy they 100% want vs a guy they 100% won't pick, they choose the latter.

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also helps with smoke screens. but i dont view our front office playing chess. They seem to solidify on 1 or 2 players, take that player and call it a night. They do not seem to be a wheeling-dealing front office and change their strategy on the fly if the draft changes

[IllMagic04]

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Really interesting. They plan to trade down? Or trying to get another top 5 pick?

I think they are just doing their due diligence in the event a good trade down offer was presented. It also lets teams know you have interest in moving down. I will say though if they really wanted to cash in there is a path to trade for maybe not a top 5 pick but maybe at number 7. We def could offer Portland a realistic package that I believe they would except for number 7 if they really wanted to.

[basketballRob]

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Just listened. While i mostly agree about Paolo and Banchero he completely changed his narrative while talking about Jabari. He lost all the professionalism and realism, changing almost into a groupie.
Poor finishing is not a huge worry, poor handle is not a huge worry becouse he can shoot over college kids with 1-2 dribbles.....
Comparing Smith to young Tatum and Ingram is pure manipulation. You can read their scouting reports and watch film. Handle, foot work, fluid athletecism, slashing to the rim were so much different.

It's hard to compare Jabari to Ingram or Tatum. For one thing, both of them had a more spread floor. Just basing it off highlights, I think Jabari looks stronger and makes the more difficult shots than Ingram does. My guess Jabari will be somewhere between Ingram and Tatum with better defense.

https://ftw.usatoday.com/lists/nba-draft-player-comparisons-scouting-report-jabari-smith-chet-holmgren

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[zaymon]

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Just listened. While i mostly agree about Paolo and Banchero he completely changed his narrative while talking about Jabari. He lost all the professionalism and realism, changing almost into a groupie.
Poor finishing is not a huge worry, poor handle is not a huge worry becouse he can shoot over college kids with 1-2 dribbles.....
Comparing Smith to young Tatum and Ingram is pure manipulation. You can read their scouting reports and watch film. Handle, foot work, fluid athletecism, slashing to the rim were so much different.

It's hard to compare Jabari to Ingram or Tatum. For one thing, both of them had a more spread floor. Just basing it off highlights, I think Jabari looks stronger and makes the more difficult shots than Ingram does. My guess Jabari will be somewhere between Ingram and Tatum with better defense.

https://ftw.usatoday.com/lists/nba-draft-player-comparisons-scouting-report-jabari-smith-chet-holmgren

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Between Bertans and Ryan Anderson with better defense.

[basketballRob]

Just listened. While i mostly agree about Paolo and Banchero he completely changed his narrative while talking about Jabari. He lost all the professionalism and realism, changing almost into a groupie.
Poor finishing is not a huge worry, poor handle is not a huge worry becouse he can shoot over college kids with 1-2 dribbles.....
Comparing Smith to young Tatum and Ingram is pure manipulation. You can read their scouting reports and watch film. Handle, foot work, fluid athletecism, slashing to the rim were so much different.

It's hard to compare Jabari to Ingram or Tatum. For one thing, both of them had a more spread floor. Just basing it off highlights, I think Jabari looks stronger and makes the more difficult shots than Ingram does. My guess Jabari will be somewhere between Ingram and Tatum with better defense.

https://ftw.usatoday.com/lists/nba-draft-player-comparisons-scouting-report-jabari-smith-chet-holmgren

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Between Bertans and Ryan Anderson with better defense.

Lol. Jabari -450 now. The most I ever saw for Edwards was -300.


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[MartinsIzAfraud]

It's hard to compare Jabari to Ingram or Tatum. For one thing, both of them had a more spread floor. Just basing it off highlights, I think Jabari looks stronger and makes the more difficult shots than Ingram does. My guess Jabari will be somewhere between Ingram and Tatum with better defense.

https://ftw.usatoday.com/lists/nba-draft-player-comparisons-scouting-report-jabari-smith-chet-holmgren

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Between Bertans and Ryan Anderson with better defense.

Lol. Jabari -450 now. The most I ever saw for Edwards was -300.


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Bertans & Anderson with better defense is a quality bad take, like how can you even say that

[Nyce_1]

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Really interesting. They plan to trade down? Or trying to get another top 5 pick?

Just doing homework. Gathering Intel for down the road.

[MAGICian619]

It's hard to compare Jabari to Ingram or Tatum. For one thing, both of them had a more spread floor. Just basing it off highlights, I think Jabari looks stronger and makes the more difficult shots than Ingram does. My guess Jabari will be somewhere between Ingram and Tatum with better defense.

https://ftw.usatoday.com/lists/nba-draft-player-comparisons-scouting-report-jabari-smith-chet-holmgren

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Between Bertans and Ryan Anderson with better defense.

Lol. Jabari -450 now. The most I ever saw for Edwards was -300.


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You still don't seem to understand how those lines work. Every time there is enough action on a particular sport book, the line moves. Clearly people on FanDuel sports book are running with the only "intel" they have and pouring money into Jabari. BetOnline still has like at -250 for Jabari and +190 for Chet.

The bigger reason I know this is all BS is bigger sports books like Bovada aren't even offering the #1 pick odds as a bet likely because they know there is a big possibility of losing a ton on money because they literally have no clue. They also know the heavy money would go on Jabari but clearly know that Chet is still a huge possibility and all the smart money will be on him. If Bovada believed the Jabari hype, the #1 bet would be an option on their books.

Point being, again, no one knows what our front office will do and these lines are an indicator of bets made not who we will be drafting.

[j-ragg]

Between Bertans and Ryan Anderson with better defense.

Lol. Jabari -450 now. The most I ever saw for Edwards was -300.


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Bertans & Anderson with better defense is a quality bad take, like how can you even say that

and Banchero’s comp is Carmelo Anthony of course. I get we all have our favorites in this draft but sheesh.

[MAGICian619]

Chet will be the pick at #1. Everything else is smoke.

[IllMagic04]

Just listened. While i mostly agree about Paolo and Banchero he completely changed his narrative while talking about Jabari. He lost all the professionalism and realism, changing almost into a groupie.
Poor finishing is not a huge worry, poor handle is not a huge worry becouse he can shoot over college kids with 1-2 dribbles.....
Comparing Smith to young Tatum and Ingram is pure manipulation. You can read their scouting reports and watch film. Handle, foot work, fluid athletecism, slashing to the rim were so much different.

It's hard to compare Jabari to Ingram or Tatum. For one thing, both of them had a more spread floor. Just basing it off highlights, I think Jabari looks stronger and makes the more difficult shots than Ingram does. My guess Jabari will be somewhere between Ingram and Tatum with better defense.

https://ftw.usatoday.com/lists/nba-draft-player-comparisons-scouting-report-jabari-smith-chet-holmgren

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Between Bertans and Ryan Anderson with better defense.

Come on now Bertans?? . He has a higher upside then that. Even without handles he's gonna be a threat to create his shot in the mid post. Jab step, shot over the top with the counter of driving past defender will be his bread and butter early in his career. Hes gonna be better then both those guys easily

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Pretty much sums up what I've been saying. Not entirely sure Chet is a go-to guy at all. He wasn't at Gonzaga and didn't really display it in college. He didn't iso much, didn't get to the line as much, and was OK on spot up 3's.

If Chet is who the Magic take there are far more questions on how he will be utilized at the next level regardless of the roster.

Paolo and Jabari were the offensive focal point on their teams. They went to the line much more often and took more attempts from the floor, especially Jabari. They are both closer to who we are watching in the finals as initiators despite having some concerns.

If the drop off in talent was MUCH vaster, then I would have less of an issue taking Chet. However, thats just not the case with this draft. Paolo and Jabari just make so much more sense to me as top picks in 2022. I say this without being partial to any of them at all as prospects. I dislike all three of them as #1 picks altogether for the concerns everyone has mentioned.

I feel like I have to preface everything in this thread with a disclaimer that I really don't care who they take out of the three guys. I just hope they have a plan in place more-so if its Chet.

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Pretty much sums up what I've been saying. Not entirely sure Chet is a go-to guy at all. He wasn't at Gonzaga and didn't really display it in college. He didn't iso much, didn't get to the line as much, and was OK on spot up 3's.

If Chet is who the Magic take there are far more questions on how he will be utilized at the next level regardless of the roster.

Paolo and Jabari were the offensive focal point on their teams. They went to the line much more often and took more attempts from the floor, especially Jabari. They are both closer to who we are watching in the finals as initiators despite having some concerns.

If the drop off in talent was MUCH vaster, then I would have less of an issue taking Chet. However, thats just not the case with this draft. Paolo and Jabari just make so much more sense to me as top picks in 2022. I say this without being partial to any of them at all as prospects. I dislike all three of them as #1 picks altogether for the concerns everyone has mentioned.

I feel like I have to preface everything in this thread with a disclaimer that I really don't care who they take out of the three guys. I just hope they have a plan in place more-so if its Chet.

I wouldn't say Jabari was the focal point of Auburn. They had two ball dominant guards. Sure, Jabari took his shots, but the ball wasn't being running through him. Those guards were the initiator and one was more of a finisher.

Chet, clearly was third fiddle or so on offense, and most likely because they had a guy playing Chet's position taking 12 shots a game.

A lot more offense ran through Paolo, but that Duke really was pretty deep. People are wondering if they have 5 guys go in the first round. AJ Griffin is going to be good in the NBA and Wendell Moore is really interesting. Paolo still was dominating possessions.