Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect

dezzie_33 · Post #2761 » by **dezzie_33** » Fri Jun 3, 2022 8:09 am

The Moose wrote:

Even though it's a very small sample size, it seems like they had pretty good cohesion. To me, Dyson appears to be someone who could potentially make Cade a better player. They could compliment each other very well.

Kalamazoo317 · Post #2762 » by **Kalamazoo317** » Fri Jun 3, 2022 4:11 pm

Part of the brilliance of Cade is that he can function at a high level with about any type of player.

buzzkilloton · Post #2763 » by **buzzkilloton** » Fri Jun 3, 2022 6:24 pm

Kalamazoo317 wrote:Part of the brilliance of Cade is that he can function at a high level with about any type of player.

100% just get him some talent to play with. Another thing with Cade is hes such a good leader and mature beyond his years. Hes going to rub off well on whoever we draft. Hes going to get Ivey or Sharpe busting ass to improve

Kalamazoo317 · Post #2764 » by **Kalamazoo317** » Fri Jun 3, 2022 6:57 pm

buzzkilloton wrote:
Kalamazoo317 wrote:Part of the brilliance of Cade is that he can function at a high level with about any type of player.

100% just get him some talent to play with. Another thing with Cade is hes such a good leader and mature beyond his years. Hes going to rub off well on whoever we draft. Hes going to get Ivey or Sharpe busting ass to improve

I look at a young team like Memphis and given the great start with guys like Cade, it makes me want to find those culture fits -- hard working, team-first type guys. It's a big part of why I gravitate towards Murray and Mathurin.

zeebneeb · Post #2765 » by **zeebneeb** » Fri Jun 3, 2022 7:37 pm

Kalamazoo317 wrote:
buzzkilloton wrote:
Kalamazoo317 wrote:Part of the brilliance of Cade is that he can function at a high level with about any type of player.

100% just get him some talent to play with. Another thing with Cade is hes such a good leader and mature beyond his years. Hes going to rub off well on whoever we draft. Hes going to get Ivey or Sharpe busting ass to improve

I look at a young team like Memphis and given the great start with guys like Cade, it makes me want to find those culture fits -- hard working, team-first type guys. It's a big part of why I gravitate towards Murray and Mathurin.

Agreed. I mean talent is great, don't get me wrong, but without the right mentality, it next to worthless.

I really, really like Mathurin. I'm unsure if I would pick him at 5, but if the Pistons could somehow swing for another pick and land both these guys, I would absolutely be down for that.

buzzkilloton · Post #2766 » by **buzzkilloton** » Fri Jun 3, 2022 8:31 pm

Kalamazoo317 wrote:
buzzkilloton wrote:
Kalamazoo317 wrote:Part of the brilliance of Cade is that he can function at a high level with about any type of player.

100% just get him some talent to play with. Another thing with Cade is hes such a good leader and mature beyond his years. Hes going to rub off well on whoever we draft. Hes going to get Ivey or Sharpe busting ass to improve

I look at a young team like Memphis and given the great start with guys like Cade, it makes me want to find those culture fits -- hard working, team-first type guys. It's a big part of why I gravitate towards Murray and Mathurin.

Memphis drafted BAP each team they had a high lotto pick. JA at 2 was obv. JJjr was the youngest player in that draft he was BAP but he was raw and had big foul trouble. Last season with a higher pick they went pure upside with Z.Williams who had no college production but is gifted. Guys like Bane and Jones were late picks that hit.

I havent heard that any of the prospects were looking at arent "hard working or not team first type guys". This seems to be alot of speculation. Rather then cap our teams upside by drafting for speculative traits that are going to be alot of hearsay better to get those traits in free agency at a cheaper cost. Luckily we have a alpha dog leader in Cade whos going to set the tone for any rookie we draft.

Kalamazoo317 · Post #2767 » by **Kalamazoo317** » Fri Jun 3, 2022 8:42 pm

Fwiw part of the reason I'm into Mathurin is I also think he's a better player than Ivey, and the advanced stats seem to support that from what I've read. And I really don't trust Sharpe's defense, shooting, or ability to consistently utilize his physical gifts.

buzzkilloton · Post #2768 » by **buzzkilloton** » Sat Jun 4, 2022 3:20 am

Still good with this guy. I take the Kings take him or trade it to a team that wants him though.

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FloridaMan78 · Post #2769 » by **FloridaMan78** » Sat Jun 4, 2022 3:23 am

buzzkilloton wrote:Still good with this guy. I take the Kings take him or trade it to a team that wants him though.

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I'm really high on Ivey. But agree he probably won't be there at 5. Although the fit isn't perfect here, I think his off ball stuff he showed at Purdue is plenty enough effective. I could see him running off screens all day like Rip used to.

The Moose · Post #2770 » by **The Moose** » Sat Jun 4, 2022 1:21 pm

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MotownMadness · Post #2771 » by **MotownMadness** » Sat Jun 4, 2022 6:49 pm

Kalamazoo317 wrote:Fwiw part of the reason I'm into Mathurin is I also think he's a better player than Ivey, and the advanced stats seem to support that from what I've read. And I really don't trust Sharpe's defense, shooting, or ability to consistently utilize his physical gifts.

Mathurin ive caught a few times throughout the regular season. Pretty sure he even had that 38 point game or something in the Elite 8 showing off the whole package.

I do like him and his motor but not sure if hes better then Ivey.

buzzkilloton · Post #2772 » by **buzzkilloton** » Sun Jun 5, 2022 5:17 am

I wouldnt hate Hardy if we landed a 2nd pick from Atl. He could be our J.Poole/D.White. I'd be completely fine grabbing him with Sharpe/Ivey and just adding tons of offense.

Not saying hes my guy if we get the pick just I like him. I'd rather have Eason,Jalen Williams, maybe even Walker Kessler. Sochan,Mark Williams, or or Agbaji would be other guys who could fall around there that I like. We need a 2nd first!

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breezypeezy · Post #2773 » by **breezypeezy** » Sun Jun 5, 2022 9:53 am

After Cades rookie campaign, most of us will not be sated without a 2nd 1st rounder this year!

coolness · Post #2774 » by **coolness** » Sun Jun 5, 2022 5:35 pm

Mathurin seems safer than Murray to me now. Two years younger. Imagine how dominant Mathurin would be if he stayed in college 1 or 2 more years.

And everyone is safer than Sharpe afaik.

MotownMadness · Post #2775 » by **MotownMadness** » Sun Jun 5, 2022 5:43 pm

buzzkilloton wrote:I wouldnt hate Hardy if we landed a 2nd pick from Atl. He could be our J.Poole/D.White. I'd be completely fine grabbing him with Sharpe/Ivey and just adding tons of offense.

Not saying hes my guy if we get the pick just I like him. I'd rather have Eason,Jalen Williams, maybe even Walker Kessler. Sochan,Mark Williams, or or Agbaji would be other guys who could fall around there that I like. We need a 2nd first!

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Thats funny cause i watched that last night while getting lost in YouTube. The potential is definitely there with that kid. His movements and the way he shoots is like a less explosive Edwards prospect.

I really like what i see and would have no problem trying to move up early 2nd or late 1st to take the gamble.

People should take the time to watch that scouting video though as its nicely done with some good points regarding his shooting numbers to close out the year.

buzzkilloton · Post #2776 » by **buzzkilloton** » Sun Jun 5, 2022 6:15 pm

MotownMadness wrote:
buzzkilloton wrote:I wouldnt hate Hardy if we landed a 2nd pick from Atl. He could be our J.Poole/D.White. I'd be completely fine grabbing

Thats funny cause i watched that last night while getting lost in YouTube. The potential is definitely there with that kid. His movements and the way he shoots is like a less explosive Edwards prospect.

I really like what i see and would have no problem trying to move up early 2nd or late 1st to take the gamble.

People should take the time to watch that scouting video though as its nicely done with some good points regarding his shooting numbers to close out the year.

I'm hearing Hardys on the rise right now. Sounds like hes gonna be top 20 and might even go higher. He looks alot better on tape then he does by stats imo. Also like he mentioned by stats hes right in line with Green and Kuminga coming out of Gleague and obv they came through as pros.

Point is likely gonna have to get that Atl pick to get him if what I'm hearing and seeing in the updated mocks is correct.

buzzkilloton · Post #2777 » by **buzzkilloton** » Mon Jun 6, 2022 12:18 am

Heres mooses boy who could be on the board if we get that Atl pick. Gallo and Eason for Grant lets go!

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edmunder_prc · Post #2778 » by **edmunder_prc** » Mon Jun 6, 2022 12:28 am

buzzkilloton wrote:Heres mooses boy who could be on the board if we get that Atl pick. Gallo and Eason for Grant lets go!

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That would be an interesting PF combo with either shooting or defense/high energy/potential.

Gallo has 2 years? So possible 1 year and then flip after a good shooting year for a late 1st rounder. Its possible the Pistons will play really well and lose their pick next year, so trading Gallo for a pick in the mid/late-20s would be good.

The Moose · Post #2779 » by **The Moose** » Mon Jun 6, 2022 12:51 am

buzzkilloton wrote:Heres mooses boy who could be on the board if we get that Atl pick. Gallo and Eason for Grant lets go!

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Speaking of Eason , if anyone has the time ,this was a pretty good podcast on Murray vs Eason vs Sochan

buzzkilloton · Post #2780 » by **buzzkilloton** » Tue Jun 7, 2022 7:03 am

I seen this on the ringer earlier. It got me thinking what if the kings cant get decent value for pick 4. I mean there screaming they want to win now would they take Murray over Ivey? I think it could happen here if they cant make a trade. I'm pretty sure in that case we go Ivey which I'd love to do.

That could make a interesting bet as well. You can bet Murray at 4 and then Ivey at 5 and basically double dip. Not saying its likely but very possible if the Kings cant trade that pick.

League sources say the Kings are looking for a win-now player with the fourth pick, whether they draft one or deal the pick to acquire one. Trading out of the draft is a possibility, but so is moving down. Sources say Sacramento is willing to move back for a lower pick and a player who would fit into the same trajectory as De’Aaron Fox, Domantas Sabonis, and Davion Mitchell.

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2022/6/6/23156358/donovan-mitchell-rumors-jazz-nba-finals