NBA FINALS – Gm 2: Celtics (1) @ Warriors (0) – 8:00PM, Sun, June 5, 2022

[FlatearthZorro]

Theis is not effective. Nesmith should see minutes over him. Theis is trash

good lord, you can't be serious. Nesmith is a shooter who can't hit a shot and is like a deer in the headlights out there.

Theis was our center when we made it to the ECF just 2 yrs ago - he's just as good (if not better) than he was then. You're comparing apples to oranges.

Theis hit a 3 last night (something Nesmith hasn't been able to do) and he can also block shots, like this one in the last series we just played vs Miami:

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Future hall of famer Draymond Green gets a rebound over him and all of a sudden he's trash

Theis has a solid defender, rebounder, rim protector who is really good at setting screens, as well as sealing off his man so Tatum can drive to the basket. He's tough, physical, probably the strongest dude on the team outside of Grant. He's fearless, doesn't back down from anyone. If he gets 5 minutes a game, I'm not losing sleep. For crying out loud, that's all he got last night and we won in a blowout. Like honestly, what are we complaining about here lol

We have 2 Fragile (if that's the word) Centers. -- Horford, who turned 36 today, needs proper rest, at times.
And, Rob Williams, who is still dealing with lingering injuries.

It only makes sense for Theis to come in -- when he can -- and eat up some of the minutes.
Theis is a trooper. I want him on our team, going forward. He's a Swiss-Army-Knife of Centers.

Agreed, Theis' screens, shot blocking, passing(screens under the basket ), corner 3s are underrated and he boxes out. We were a top 3 defense with Theis playing what 28 minutes a game? I think he's better on offense now than he was 2 years ago. I kinda wish Ime would give him a chance. I love Grant's development but when he gets 3 boards and 3 assists in 18 minutes and this has happened for a while, I would give Theis a chance. He's a pretty decent matchup vs Gree and Looney, too. Neither is that tall or longer than Theis(or a better athlete).

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[Shak_Celts]

Horford plays incredible when he is rested. Two days off between game is huge for him .


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Imagine this older GSW team playing this series every other night. Maybe they bounce back but they don't look like they have the legs for it.

This is what I was looking for. I know it helps horford offensively, but I think he would be great defensively either way. If we wear GSW down on both sides and they only get a few hours of rest (1 day in between), what legs would they have for shooting? They lucked out with 2 days off. Gives them a little more time to recover from the wear down we employ. It got to Miami and Bucks but games were every other day.

With all that said, I knew Curry was dead tired as early as the second quarter (IIRC), I said he was chewing on that mouthpiece outside of fts very early. It's part of why he only made one three after the 21pt explosion in the first Q. People (Curry) are acting as though Curry should have gotten more minutes, but Kerr saw exactly what I did, he was TIRED! He had to rest him! Imagine Curry playing 40+ in this series, no way he has anything left by game 3. His offensive load is large and he's small trying to guard Smart, White and Tatum at times.


I really hope we seize this opportunity and come out better than Qs 1 and 3. With this team you can never tell, so I just stick to believing we will win until the scoreboard and final buzzer says otherwise.

[The Corey's]

Golden State was all over the Celtics defensively until their legs got tired.

Curry is going to get his. That's just the way it's gonna be.

Wiggins can't be out here scoring 20 a game though so they're gonna need to figure that out.

But if the warriors game plan is to double Tatum and leave the 3 open then they're cooked. They acted post game like it was a anomaly for the Celtics to be that successful and it's pretty disrespectful.

Draymond saying the warriors dominated the first 42 minutes was hilarious. Celtics lost quarter 1 by 4 points and outright won quarters 2 and 4.

If that's how they feel about the game then maybe they really don't know what the Celtics are about. Either way, I think last night was great for the Celtics going forward to know that they can take the warriors punches and still have a chance. None of this crawling into a hole and folding ****.

[Jurassic_Park]

Gents. Thoughts on Jaylen Brown for FMVP? He is listed at 9x whereas Tatum is 2.5x. Feel like brown has good value there.

[FlatearthZorro]

Gents. Thoughts on Jaylen Brown for FMVP? He is listed at 9x whereas Tatum is 2.5x. Feel like brown has good value there.

I think it's a decent bet. I will tell you why: everybody expects Steph or Tatum. I do not expect Tatum to struggle or Curry, but Brown averaging 25 a game with 5-6 boards and 4-5 assists isn't far fetched and with that game 1 performance, he definitely has a decent chance.

Hope I've helped.

[Hal14]

Gents. Thoughts on Jaylen Brown for FMVP? He is listed at 9x whereas Tatum is 2.5x. Feel like brown has good value there.

it's just 1 game. ask me after the series is over

[lon3lytoaster]

Gents. Thoughts on Jaylen Brown for FMVP? He is listed at 9x whereas Tatum is 2.5x. Feel like brown has good value there.

Very ahead of myself but if we can be lucky enough to win this series, hope it goes to Al, or Marcus as a runner up. Loved Marcus’ leadership when Curry was railing us (“this isn’t the Heat series.”) and Al’s the OG who helped us avoid a rebuild and changed the tone of the team along with Isaiah until Kyrie ruined everything.

[FlatearthZorro]

And, btw, Tatum has a guy he needs to call or write- his name is Paul Pierce, the guy who led the NBA in clutch points(assisted or scored) in the final minute of a game- over Kobe and LBJ. Call Paul, Jayson. I think overall talking and even working with Paul would further improve your clutch abilities. Dude went toe to toe with prime LBJ and Kobe(both x2).

[BK_2020]

He'll just end up getting talked into buying designer weed.

[Tyakack]

I'll be honest and say I'm fully expecting us to drop this one.....but, I really hope our guys come in with the "killshot" mindset. Don't be satisfied with the split. Go in there like you're down 0-3 and fighting for your playoff lives! 2-0 would be absolutely HUGE and I don't think the warriors recover from it.

[Shak_Celts]

I'll be honest and say I'm fully expecting us to drop this one.....but, I really hope our guys come in with the "killshot" mindset. Don't be satisfied with the split. Go in there like you're down 0-3 and fighting for your playoff lives! 2-0 would be absolutely HUGE and I don't think the warriors recover from it.

I wouldn't let down or think it's over until we have 4 wins. Confidence can turn a series quickly, just as it did Dal vs Phx. I won't count GSW out even though I realize either way we feel we have no real control of the outcome.

I don't believe in jinxing, I just don't want them to be jinxed! It's all hogwash... until it isn't.

[leper-con]

The Warriors defence may be statistically good but the eye test compared to what the Bucks and Heat did is 100 % not better.
The Heat chewed up space and where physical thugs, it was a battle of wills last night was like a dance party

[FlatearthZorro]

Btw, I still have my Finals Paul Pierce jersey. And I plan on keeping it as a good luck charm for future years to come.
Love this team, love Danny, love Brad, love Ime, all deserve huge credit. We deserve this, I will keep pounding this tune.

[Shak_Celts]

And, btw, Tatum has a guy he needs to call or write- his name is Paul Pierce, the guy who led the NBA in clutch points(assisted or scored) in the final minute of a game- over Kobe and LBJ. Call Paul, Jayson. I think overall talking and even working with Paul would further improve your clutch abilities. Dude went toe to toe with prime LBJ and Kobe(both x2).

Tatum damn near assisted on all those points for Smart, Al, and White to end it. If he wasn't the direct assist it was a hockey one. Tatum is clutch all on his own and he's still only 24. I think he had a tough clutch season (don't know if it was all the way), but before that the league should have called him on being clutch. I know people think of buckets as the be all end all of clutch, but even when LBJ was passing in clutch situations, I always thought he was playing it right. He just didn't have an Horry to connect for him. Tatum kept making the right CLUTCH play.

At this point it's feeling like I'm making up Tatum being clutch, because people keep saying otherwise. I must be misremembering.

[Feed Your Head]

And, btw, Tatum has a guy he needs to call or write- his name is Paul Pierce, the guy who led the NBA in clutch points(assisted or scored) in the final minute of a game- over Kobe and LBJ. Call Paul, Jayson. I think overall talking and even working with Paul would further improve your clutch abilities. Dude went toe to toe with prime LBJ and Kobe(both x2).

Tatum damn near assisted on all those points for Smart, Al, and White to end it. If he wasn't the direct assist it was a hockey one. Tatum is clutch all on his own and he's still only 24. I think he had a tough clutch season (don't know if it was all the way), but before that the league should have called him on being clutch. I know people think of buckets as the be all end all of clutch, but even when LBJ was passing in clutch situations, I always thought he was playing it right. He just didn't have an Horry to connect for him. Tatum kept making the right CLUTCH play.

At this point it's feeling like I'm making up Tatum being clutch, because people keep saying otherwise. I must be misremembering.

Tatum had a crunch time TS of 60% and 62% the two years prior to this, which is elite. First half of this year he was brutal in the clutch, since then he’s been back to his usual self. He also has the most game tying/go ahead shots within the last 5 seconds over the last two seasons. He was just so bad in those situations early in this season, that some people got stuck on it.

Btw speaking of the assists you mention, only 10 players in nba history had more assists in a finals game than Tatum did last night, which kind of blew my mind.

[Feed Your Head]

Gents. Thoughts on Jaylen Brown for FMVP? He is listed at 9x whereas Tatum is 2.5x. Feel like brown has good value there.

Jaylen is a good value bet, even if Tatum is most likely to win (in the event that the Celtics win).

[FlatearthZorro]

And, btw, Tatum has a guy he needs to call or write- his name is Paul Pierce, the guy who led the NBA in clutch points(assisted or scored) in the final minute of a game- over Kobe and LBJ. Call Paul, Jayson. I think overall talking and even working with Paul would further improve your clutch abilities. Dude went toe to toe with prime LBJ and Kobe(both x2).

Tatum damn near assisted on all those points for Smart, Al, and White to end it. If he wasn't the direct assist it was a hockey one. Tatum is clutch all on his own and he's still only 24. I think he had a tough clutch season (don't know if it was all the way), but before that the league should have called him on being clutch. I know people think of buckets as the be all end all of clutch, but even when LBJ was passing in clutch situations, I always thought he was playing it right. He just didn't have an Horry to connect for him. Tatum kept making the right CLUTCH play.

At this point it's feeling like I'm making up Tatum being clutch, because people keep saying otherwise. I must be misremembering.

Tatum had a crunch time TS of 60% and 62% the two years prior to this, which is elite. First half of this year he was brutal in the clutch, since then he’s been back to his usual self. He also has the most game tying/go ahead shots within the last 5 seconds over the last two seasons. He was just so bad in those situations early in this season, that some people got stuck on it.

Btw speaking of the assists you mention, only 10 players in nba history had more assists in a finals game than Tatum did last night, which kind of blew my mind.

That's not a slide at Tatum or Kobe. But Pierce is the greatest clutch player at the wing position I have personally seen and he's right there.... #34.. Call him or write him Jayson...

[Feed Your Head]

Tatum damn near assisted on all those points for Smart, Al, and White to end it. If he wasn't the direct assist it was a hockey one. Tatum is clutch all on his own and he's still only 24. I think he had a tough clutch season (don't know if it was all the way), but before that the league should have called him on being clutch. I know people think of buckets as the be all end all of clutch, but even when LBJ was passing in clutch situations, I always thought he was playing it right. He just didn't have an Horry to connect for him. Tatum kept making the right CLUTCH play.

At this point it's feeling like I'm making up Tatum being clutch, because people keep saying otherwise. I must be misremembering.

Tatum had a crunch time TS of 60% and 62% the two years prior to this, which is elite. First half of this year he was brutal in the clutch, since then he’s been back to his usual self. He also has the most game tying/go ahead shots within the last 5 seconds over the last two seasons. He was just so bad in those situations early in this season, that some people got stuck on it.

Btw speaking of the assists you mention, only 10 players in nba history had more assists in a finals game than Tatum did last night, which kind of blew my mind.

That's not a slide at Tatum or Kobe. But Pierce is the greatest clutch player at the wing position I have personally seen and he's right there.... #34.. Call him or write him Jayson...

Any chance to praise Pierce, I’m going to take it.

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[FlatearthZorro]

Tatum had a crunch time TS of 60% and 62% the two years prior to this, which is elite. First half of this year he was brutal in the clutch, since then he’s been back to his usual self. He also has the most game tying/go ahead shots within the last 5 seconds over the last two seasons. He was just so bad in those situations early in this season, that some people got stuck on it.

Btw speaking of the assists you mention, only 10 players in nba history had more assists in a finals game than Tatum did last night, which kind of blew my mind.

That's not a slide at Tatum or Kobe. But Pierce is the greatest clutch player at the wing position I have personally seen and he's right there.... #34.. Call him or write him Jayson...

Any chance to praise Pierce, I’m going to take it.

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Kinda sad that the highlights aren't that Celtics related:

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that's who Tatum should look after and for...

26/6/6 in his prime with Wally and Delonte as his main 2 options than Walker.