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Re: ATL - Ham Slamwich to the Lakers 

Post#1521 » by Mtsportsfan » Sat Jun 4, 2022 1:20 pm

PintSizedBox10 wrote:I'll continue to advocate for changes to be made to the three point line. The easiest adjustment would be to do away with the corner three entirely. If that's too extreme then I'd suggest widening the court so the corner three is the same distance. Granted the league would never do this but I'm a firm believer that adjustments need to be made. I worry that in 15 years teams will be jacking 80 threes a game because the payoff to hitting threes is absurd.

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I have been saying this for a long time . The court and the hoop needs adjustment. Widen and add more length to the court and raise the hoop. Basketball was played with peach baskets and 5'9 white guys , not a lot of adjustments to the since that time. Don't really care about stats . The three point line has its place in the game but its to easy for today's player .
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Post#1522 » by JayMKE » Sat Jun 4, 2022 2:18 pm

I’m full on for abolishing 3 pointers, thats the only way to nip analytics in the butt before the game ends up soulless and dead like baseball. There is no reason for long range shots to be worth 150% any other shot and it started as a gimmick to begin with. Removing the corner 3 or moving the line back wouldn’t do anything, it could even be worse.
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Post#1523 » by Licensed to Il » Sat Jun 4, 2022 3:40 pm

JayMKE wrote:I’m full on for abolishing 3 pointers, thats the only way to nip analytics in the butt before the game ends up soulless and dead like baseball. There is no reason for long range shots to be worth 150% any other shot and it started as a gimmick to begin with. Removing the corner 3 or moving the line back wouldn’t do anything, it could even be worse.


I don’t want to sound like an old man yelling at the passing of time. But basketball was so much more interesting to me 10-15 years ago when there was a contrast of styles. You had the Rockets and Suns going “seven seconds or less,” the Grizz going “grit and grind (and starting a shooting guard who couldn't shoot), Lakers still running triangle, etc. Its not that I hate three pointers, its that I hate when every team plays the same.
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Post#1524 » by GoldenAntlers » Sat Jun 4, 2022 3:51 pm

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JayMKE wrote:I’m full on for abolishing 3 pointers, thats the only way to nip analytics in the butt before the game ends up soulless and dead like baseball. There is no reason for long range shots to be worth 150% any other shot and it started as a gimmick to begin with. Removing the corner 3 or moving the line back wouldn’t do anything, it could even be worse.


I don’t want to sound like an old man yelling at the passing of time. But basketball was so much more interesting to me 10-15 years ago when there was a contrast of styles. You had the Rockets and Suns going “seven seconds or less,” the Grizz going “grit and grind (and starting a shooting guard who couldn't shoot), Lakers still running triangle, etc. Its not that I hate three pointers, its that I hate when every team plays the same.
Agreed. I think it will swing into more variety in the coming years, but right now we are experiencing the peak of the 3-point era. At some point it will break and become interesting again... ....right?
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Post#1525 » by JayMKE » Sat Jun 4, 2022 4:05 pm

I don't see any reason 3 pointers would decrease in the future, its monopolizing the offense the way 3TO did in baseball. Each team shooting 50 3 pointers a game is the future of the NBA, we're not that far off now. Its not a fad or passing phase, the cat is out of the bag on analytics and the only way to change it is to change the value of the shot. Unfortunately I don't think anybody is visionary or brave enough to say it, I don't think Adam Silver even watches these **** games.
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Post#1526 » by JayMKE » Sat Jun 4, 2022 4:11 pm

If you force guys to cover any more ground there aren't even going to be bigs in the NBA in the future, I think the NBA needs bigs and post play more than it needs chuckers from deep.
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Post#1527 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Sat Jun 4, 2022 4:52 pm

It's a damn shame there isn't a Friday or Saturday night name to just sit down and watch with some beer and pizza.
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Post#1528 » by Dick Tate » Sat Jun 4, 2022 5:04 pm

I like the idea of getting rid of the corner three. It would make the rest of the three-point line easier to defend and likely bring more inside-out balance back to the game.
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Post#1529 » by GoldenAntlers » Sat Jun 4, 2022 5:49 pm

MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:It's a damn shame there isn't a Friday or Saturday night name to just sit down and watch with some beer and pizza.
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Post#1530 » by Finn » Sat Jun 4, 2022 5:53 pm

MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:It's a damn shame there isn't a Friday or Saturday night name to just sit down and watch with some beer and pizza.

I'm glad I don't have to have an NBA Finals game to enjoy a beer & some pizza! :lol:
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Post#1531 » by chonestown » Sat Jun 4, 2022 6:05 pm

Abolishing the 3-pointer is only a panacea.

What needs to happen is to abolish the ball.

Silver won't do it tho smdh
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Post#1532 » by GoldenAntlers » Sat Jun 4, 2022 6:09 pm

chonestown wrote:Abolishing the 3-pointer is only a panacea.

What needs to happen is to abolish the ball.

Silver won't do it tho smdh
Keep the ball and get rid of the players imo.
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Post#1533 » by sidney lanier » Sat Jun 4, 2022 7:40 pm

chonestown wrote:Abolishing the 3-pointer is only a panacea.

What needs to happen is to abolish the ball.

Silver won't do it tho smdh


Another option: despite his physique, commish goes to the beach this summer, gets hit by a beach ball, and has a Newton-like epiphany: just make the ball beach ball size.

Now let’s see you make that corner three, P.J. Tucker.
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Post#1534 » by FlagsFlyForever » Sat Jun 4, 2022 9:47 pm

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I don’t want to sound like an old man yelling at the passing of time. But basketball was so much more interesting to me 10-15 years ago when there was a contrast of styles. You had the Rockets and Suns going “seven seconds or less,” the Grizz going “grit and grind (and starting a shooting guard who couldn't shoot), Lakers still running triangle, etc. Its not that I hate three pointers, its that I hate when every team plays the same.
Agreed. I think it will swing into more variety in the coming years, but right now we are experiencing the peak of the 3-point era. At some point it will break and become interesting again... ....right?

Players have been getting better at shooting every year forever. This is basically true for skills in every sport. Three point shooting will only continue to improve until the court is widened and the three point line is moved back so that the three isn't such a high value attempt.

The first thing the NBA needs to do is require new arenas be built to accommodate a wider court. If the league had the foresight to do this 20 years ago when some of us first started complaining about it, they wouldn't be having this completely predictable problem right now.
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Post#1535 » by sidney lanier » Sat Jun 4, 2022 10:30 pm

FlagsFlyForever wrote:Players have been getting better at shooting every year forever. This is basically true for skills in every sport. Three point shooting will only continue to improve until the court is widened and the three point line is moved back so that the three isn't such a high value attempt.


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Re: ATL - Ham Slamwich to the Lakers 

Post#1536 » by JayMKE » Sat Jun 4, 2022 10:46 pm

Maybe they should make the ball heavier LOL
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Re: ATL - Ham Slamwich to the Lakers 

Post#1537 » by chonestown » Sat Jun 4, 2022 11:17 pm

Replace basket with upside down H; reshape ball as oblong and covered in pigskin.
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Re: ATL - Ham Slamwich to the Lakers 

Post#1538 » by chonestown » Sat Jun 4, 2022 11:17 pm

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Re: ATL - Ham Slamwich to the Lakers 

Post#1539 » by emunney » Sun Jun 5, 2022 12:15 am

Wouldn't normally say this, but maybe it's time to adapt some rules from Soviet Russia, where, it is said, ball dunks you.
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Re: ATL - Ham Slamwich to the Lakers 

Post#1540 » by Sigra » Sun Jun 5, 2022 1:05 pm

just remove corner 3s and see what hapens. you want to stand in corner entire game? ok, but that is 2 point shoot.

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