2021-22 NBA Season Discussion

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Re: 2021-22 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#6181 » by falcolombardi » Sun Jun 5, 2022 7:11 pm

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PaulieWal wrote:The whole ratings thing is funny to me always. Fans get so invested in ratings, the sport is still in a healthy place, the TV deal will only get bigger, players and owners will continue to make money. The NBA will never catch-up to the NFL, at least not in our lifetimes probably and will be playing for 2nd with MLB among the big 4 leagues (NFL, NHL, MLB, NBA). What the NBA should really be focusing on is cleaning up some of the in-game stuff with the reviews, stoppages, and some of these 4th quarter endings taking 30 mins+ for 2 minutes of game time. That's just unacceptable.

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Onto tonight.....I would be shocked if GSW doesn't come out and try to blowout Celtics off the floor. Going down 0-2 to a team of comparable talent with 3 games on the road is a recipe for losing the series, so it's almost a must-win in my books for the Warriors.


i think ratings discussion makes more sense for the NFL, but not really for the NBA given how global the game is and how many viewers they have outside of america

like you said the NBA has no chance at catching up to the NFL domestically. that's why most of their efforts have been in terms of growing in china, india, etc while the NFL's popularity is way more exclusive to the states


there are some relevant markets where the nfl has expanded better than the nba like mexico and canada

but overall you are right basketball is a mote global sport
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Re: 2021-22 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#6182 » by RCM88x » Sun Jun 5, 2022 8:07 pm

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RCM88x wrote:NBA needs a hard cap. Rich teams like GS paying $450M in salary while small market teams can't afford to even go above the cap.

I don't think the union and league anticipated teams actually paying this much to retain their talent.


Teams in the past have had paid huge luxury tax bills for one season, but then they almost trim and bring it down. Let's see how much appetite GSW really has to pay that much in salary for 2,3 years in a row. I will believe it when i see it.

Even your team paid the most in luxury tax around that 2016, 2017 season no? Nets paid a lot in 2014 but then trimmed.


GS has paid 300M in tax over the past two seasons, I don't think the Cavs totaled over 100M in their run.

But I also recognize that the Cavs situation is never going to happen again here (GOAT level player chosing to sign here in free agency and go completely win now mode).

The current situation just favors the richest teams possibly even more than an uncapped situation would, since the penalties are so large and teams under the cap actually get reimbursed with money.

I don't really know of a better solution, it just sucks that some teams have to make choices on retaining their drafted talent while others just will pay for them like it's nothing. A team like Indiana or Milwaukee shouldn't be penalized for drafting good players, while a Brooklyn can afford to sign them away in free agency just because they can afford it.

Just seems like the current setup isn't working as intended, same goes for the supermax deals which was a other terrible idea.
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Re: 2021-22 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#6183 » by jalengreen » Mon Jun 6, 2022 12:24 am

not a fan of the officiating so far
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Post#6184 » by falcolombardi » Mon Jun 6, 2022 12:26 am

jalengreen wrote:not a fan of the officiating so far


just started watching, why?
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Re: 2021-22 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#6185 » by TheGOATRises007 » Mon Jun 6, 2022 12:28 am

The Warriors can't really stop Boston's offense.

Their defense keeps collapsing.
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Re: 2021-22 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#6186 » by Fadeaway_J » Mon Jun 6, 2022 12:29 am

How is that a foul? :lol:
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Re: 2021-22 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#6187 » by jalengreen » Mon Jun 6, 2022 12:30 am

falcolombardi wrote:
jalengreen wrote:not a fan of the officiating so far


just started watching, why?


iffy calls killed the celtics momentum

or maybe i should say killing* as another garbage call as i type this
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Post#6188 » by Bidofo » Mon Jun 6, 2022 12:31 am

Lmao the NBA assigns as bad of a 3 man ref crew as possible and the result is predictably a much less entertaining game than game 1.
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Re: 2021-22 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#6189 » by yoyoboy » Mon Jun 6, 2022 12:32 am

The reffing in this game is jokes.
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Re: 2021-22 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#6190 » by falcolombardi » Mon Jun 6, 2022 12:33 am

Bidofo wrote:Lmao the NBA assigns as bad of a 3 man ref crew as possible and the result is predictably a much less entertaining game than game 1.


yeah this game looks really slow compared to the other night

i guess that is what homecooking does for ya?
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Re: 2021-22 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#6191 » by jalengreen » Mon Jun 6, 2022 12:33 am

tatum hasn't really been able to take advantage of mismatches well this series
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Re: 2021-22 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#6192 » by falcolombardi » Mon Jun 6, 2022 12:35 am

did warriors get these soft calls back in theur peak days?

i was biased against them back then so i dont trust my memories too much
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Post#6193 » by GSP » Mon Jun 6, 2022 12:35 am

What is Looneys contract.......has to be one of the best in the league right now if not the best.........

great finisher. Prolly more switchable than any big that isnt Bam............monster on the glass and he can pass too.........
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Re: 2021-22 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#6194 » by jalengreen » Mon Jun 6, 2022 12:37 am

falcolombardi wrote:did warriors get these soft calls back in theur peak days?

i was biased against them back then so i dont trust my memories too much


i think main officiating narratives about the warriors would be (a) steph not getting many calls, (b) draymond getting away with a lot of extracurricular stuff and not getting as many Ts as he deserved, and (c) the classic moving screens complaints in 2015/2016

i thought the 2018 WCF officiating was ridiculous

(but i am also biased)
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Re: 2021-22 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#6195 » by falcolombardi » Mon Jun 6, 2022 12:38 am

when did curry start shooting lebron percentages from the line?
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Re: 2021-22 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#6196 » by RCM88x » Mon Jun 6, 2022 12:38 am

GSP wrote:What is Looneys contract.......has to be one of the best in the league right now if not the best.........

great finisher. Prolly more switchable than any big that isnt Bam............monster on the glass and he can pass too.........


On the last year of a 3/15m deal

He is very solid but I don't think he'd translate well to a normal team.
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Re: 2021-22 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#6197 » by eminence » Mon Jun 6, 2022 12:40 am

That's two pretty bad non-calls on clear paths for me in Bostons favor.
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Re: 2021-22 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#6198 » by HeartBreakKid » Mon Jun 6, 2022 12:41 am

falcolombardi wrote:
jalengreen wrote:
PaulieWal wrote:The whole ratings thing is funny to me always. Fans get so invested in ratings, the sport is still in a healthy place, the TV deal will only get bigger, players and owners will continue to make money. The NBA will never catch-up to the NFL, at least not in our lifetimes probably and will be playing for 2nd with MLB among the big 4 leagues (NFL, NHL, MLB, NBA). What the NBA should really be focusing on is cleaning up some of the in-game stuff with the reviews, stoppages, and some of these 4th quarter endings taking 30 mins+ for 2 minutes of game time. That's just unacceptable.

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Onto tonight.....I would be shocked if GSW doesn't come out and try to blowout Celtics off the floor. Going down 0-2 to a team of comparable talent with 3 games on the road is a recipe for losing the series, so it's almost a must-win in my books for the Warriors.


i think ratings discussion makes more sense for the NFL, but not really for the NBA given how global the game is and how many viewers they have outside of america

like you said the NBA has no chance at catching up to the NFL domestically. that's why most of their efforts have been in terms of growing in china, india, etc while the NFL's popularity is way more exclusive to the states


there are some relevant markets where the nfl has expanded better than the nba like mexico and canada

but overall you are right basketball is a mote global sport


Did the NFL expand to Canada better? The CFL is pretty popular so there would at least be an install base, but I don't know if the NFL is all that big in Canada.

I havent looked at numbers but I feel the NBA is way more relevant in Canada now then when I was a kid (in the 90s).
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Re: 2021-22 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#6199 » by falcolombardi » Mon Jun 6, 2022 12:42 am

boston looks like the better team and warriors like the team barely hanging by a thread

which is weird cause warriors are winning
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Re: 2021-22 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#6200 » by therealbig3 » Mon Jun 6, 2022 12:44 am

falcolombardi wrote:boston looks like the better team and warriors like the team barely hanging by a thread

which is weird cause warriors are winning


Boston looks scary good when things are clicking, but they go through stretches where they make such dumb mistakes that they can never actually put a team away.

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