Archx wrote:1st banana wrote:Archx wrote:Mate, you need to understand something. Doncic (when it comes to 1v1 matchups) was 2nd best Mavs defender with 2nd most directly contested shots and 2nd best DFG%. Luka averages more contested shots per game than Tatum. Nr1 successful 1v1 defender vs GSW was DFS for Mavs. The only reason those overall numbers look THAT bad to you, is because of Looney.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND how terrible Mavs were as A UNIT in that series on defense? They made Looney look like an all star because their 2 centers couldn't provide any help with either rebounding or rim protection. You're basically saying that Iverson was the reason Philly lost the finals because he couldn't guard Shaq.
This is what Tatum did. (From my earlier post). Tatum did good on defense, but he did limited damage. He had insane amount of help from other help defenders.
35.8% of those partial possessions was him guarding Draymond Green who was 1/3 and 16% was vs Klay who was 1/4. The next guy was Steph, Tatum guarded him 15% of time and was 1/2.
Tatum defense resulted in players shooting 3/10 vs him but he also contested only 6 shots and had 0 box outs. So 4 of those 3/10 was basically misses with Tatum being as the closest defender.
He had 3 deflections but still wasn't teams highest. Smart, Horford, Williams by all statistical measures did a better job on defense than Tatum and spent more time guarding GSW best players. There is even a great argument that Derrick White was better than Tatum on defense. Him guarding Steph forced Steph to shoot 2/6 directly vs him.
I’m sorry did you just compare kevon looney to shaq? lol
Lol, no? If a PG needed to defend a C scenario.
SelfishPlayer wrote:You didn't name a single player that played hero ball, was a defensive liability, and won a championship. Dirk and Curry play off the ball, Dirk far more than Curry.
It's so frustrating having any reasonable discussions with you... Let me ask you this, how many Mavs games did you even watch in the past 4 years, or... this season?
Mavs constructed the team as it is. How differently can they play if people keep telling you that Brunson and Dinwiddie play exactly the same as Doncic. But the difference is their production doesn't even come close to his.
Dude, you're fighting a losing battle here. The guy has been in this thread for a near week typing out the same stuff (Luka ball, Mavs winning without Luka ect) and has barely come back with anything really debatable other than the same diatribe. Hell, he's even quoted himself in his signature. That should you show you where and how ridiculous his mindset is at. You can post as many statistical facts (which you have) yet it won't stop this guy from posting his nonsense because we're at the point where he's trolling (and you know this).
Don't get me wrong, as a Mavs fan myself, I'm not so biased to know that Luka needs to continue to improve to reach the next level (a championship). But he's 23 years old, he's got heaps of time. It's plain idiotic and ignorant to pigeonhole a player into a certain category when they're only a quarter way through their entire career.
In closing, you've done well to argue your point, but you can't out debate the ignorant or those that refuse to accept your opinion. The artist known as SelfishPlayer has an agenda here and he's going to sit on that hill and talk down from it until people simply give up trying to convince himself otherwise.
