[Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy

[Madhouse]

Hart + 7 + Nas Little
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Keon Johnson/future pick

They are overpaying but that's what it will take. They have no leverage. Blazers fans/media don't realize Masai will trade Trent/FVV before OG's dissatisfaction actually materializes.

Anyways, I think this is just smoke. They are more likely to trade Dame then sell the farm for someone like OG Anunoby. Ownership has to sell. You don't deplete your assets before a sale. It would never happen. Which makes all this noise really strange.

This trade makes a lot of sense for Raptors. Id even do it for Hart+7+Simons.

7 has a ton of potential in this draft Murray/Mathurin/Sharpe all could be studs

Nobody is offering that type of deal.

If we could get Hart and 7 where we love a player it's a strong deal for us.

[Madhouse]

I'm looking at the upside of this I really want that 7th.

I think whoever they take is gonna be better than OG. Cheaper too. Closer to scotty's age and listen, if it's sharpe or mathurin knowing mu you picked them, knowing myself I think they both have superstar potential, that would be a different level of excitement. Like a Vince Carter era excitement

Dyson Daniels.

[NotMyKawhi]

I'm looking at the upside of this I really want that 7th.

I think whoever they take is gonna be better than OG. Cheaper too. Closer to scotty's age and listen, if it's sharpe or mathurin knowing mu you picked them, knowing myself I think they both have superstar potential, that would be a different level of excitement. Like a Vince Carter era excitement

Dyson Daniels.

he's a solid player. I see no chance he busts. You can get a guy that could play defense like that at two guard... He's a perfect fit, with Scotty in my opinion

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[deeps6x]

Hmmm, #7 plus an asset for OG, or Allen for OG, or just keep OG. I'm torn on all three possibilities.

OG for Allen is probably great for both the Cavs and Raptors, giving each team what they need for a slightly surplus player on their respective teams. I think it would cost a little more than OG.

Building for the future with #7? Yeah..... but Siakam and FVV are more win now players.

Plus, OG is so young, I consider him to be part of our future core. Could #7 be an upgrade? Maybe. You just never know. Would you trade OG for any of the #7 picks over the last three drafts? Hayes, Kuminga, White. Good players, but will any ever be better than OG? #7 is a bit of a crapshoot, but if Masai's guy is available, maybe a draft night trade could happen.

[WuTang_CMB]

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Although I do agree we should never sell low on our players and Masai's patience has worked for him when it comes to trades, I don't necessarily agree we are selling all that low on a guy like OG if we are getting Daniels or Mathurin and other pieces/picks. And with a package like this, will we get a better one next off-season when he only has 1 year left on his deal? Hard to say and I'd lean to no. Aside from missing 30 games, he had a pretty good season and got better so not sure this would be selling low on him.

[WuTang_CMB]

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[WaltFrazier]

Hmmm, #7 plus an asset for OG, or Allen for OG, or just keep OG. I'm torn on all three possibilities.

OG for Allen is probably great for both the Cavs and Raptors, giving each team what they need for a slightly surplus player on their respective teams. I think it would cost a little more than OG.

Building for the future with #7? Yeah..... but Siakam and FVV are more win now players.

Plus, OG is so young, I consider him to be part of our future core. Could #7 be an upgrade? Maybe. You just never know. Would you trade OG for any of the #7 picks over the last three drafts? Hayes, Kuminga, White. Good players, but will any ever be better than OG? #7 is a bit of a crapshoot, but if Masai's guy is available, maybe a draft night trade could happen.

Trading OG a known quantity, still young and improving and an elite defender, for a 7th pick who may or may not end up better, and would take a few years to get there, would be a real backward step

[S.W.A.N]

If we are trading OG I'd do a Portland package... That 7th pick, maybe a future first and salary filler has some potential.

If OG wants more role and we want to make him happy... Trade GTJr for a rotation player and a pick. Play OG at the 2. With more of the offense running through Pascal and Scotty, Fred and OG will both need to be shooting lots of threes. Which should keep them both happy despite Scottie getting more of a offensive load.

[WuTang_CMB]

Hmmm, #7 plus an asset for OG, or Allen for OG, or just keep OG. I'm torn on all three possibilities.

OG for Allen is probably great for both the Cavs and Raptors, giving each team what they need for a slightly surplus player on their respective teams. I think it would cost a little more than OG.

Building for the future with #7? Yeah..... but Siakam and FVV are more win now players.

Plus, OG is so young, I consider him to be part of our future core. Could #7 be an upgrade? Maybe. You just never know. Would you trade OG for any of the #7 picks over the last three drafts? Hayes, Kuminga, White. Good players, but will any ever be better than OG? #7 is a bit of a crapshoot, but if Masai's guy is available, maybe a draft night trade could happen.

Trading OG a known quantity, still young and improving and an elite defender, for a 7th pick who may or may not end up better, and would take a few years to get there, would be a real backward step

100% agree.

The only thing I would say is Raps interviewed Mathurin and Daniels at the combine - both of which will likely be there at #7. i don't think that a coincidence.It seems Portland has been on the phone with us since lottery night trying to get OG thus why we interviewed those guys at the combine.

I do think it's a long shot that deal happens but it's intriguing that we are at least doing our homework on a potential deal. You never know how desperate a team could get on draft night.

[Raptors Realtor]

Hmmm, #7 plus an asset for OG, or Allen for OG, or just keep OG. I'm torn on all three possibilities.

OG for Allen is probably great for both the Cavs and Raptors, giving each team what they need for a slightly surplus player on their respective teams. I think it would cost a little more than OG.

Building for the future with #7? Yeah..... but Siakam and FVV are more win now players.

Plus, OG is so young, I consider him to be part of our future core. Could #7 be an upgrade? Maybe. You just never know. Would you trade OG for any of the #7 picks over the last three drafts? Hayes, Kuminga, White. Good players, but will any ever be better than OG? #7 is a bit of a crapshoot, but if Masai's guy is available, maybe a draft night trade could happen.

Trading OG a known quantity, still young and improving and an elite defender, for a 7th pick who may or may not end up better, and would take a few years to get there, would be a real backward step

100% agree.

The only thing I would say is Raps interviewed Mathurin and Daniels at the combine - both of which will likely be there at #7. i don't think that a coincidence.It seems Portland has been on the phone with us since lottery night trying to get OG thus why we interviewed those guys at the combine.

I do think it's a long shot that deal happens but it's intriguing that we are at least doing our homework on a potential deal. You never know how desperate a team could get on draft night.

I'd be intrigued by 7, Hart & Keon, but by no means is it an insta-accept.

[Landomar]

OG is great and I don't want to trade him at all. If Portland offered Hart + #7, though, that's a very strong offer that I would think long and hard about.

[Tripod]

One spin off of the Portland talk is that other teams also want OG that are picking earlier in Indy and Sac.

Who knows what could happen if multiple teams get involved in bidding.

[Ackshun]

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[Madhouse]

One spin off of the Portland talk is that other teams also want OG that are picking earlier in Indy and Sac.

Who knows what could happen if multiple teams get involved in bidding.

Portland would be more inclined to make a strong offer therefore but I don't think Indiana will give us what we want. They are rebuilding so the 6th pick has a ton of value to them and they are not getting rid of Haliburton either.

The Kings pick is interesting. I don't think we could fleece them for #4 but if they are really interested in OG, it could get interesting. Barnes,4 for OG, 33 and 2023 first. Yeah, probably not but you never know with the Kings.


It's fun to think about being able to choose from Banchero/Ivey/Sharpe etc. at #4 though. Could set up the franchise for the next decade and who knows when we get to draft high again.

[Morse Code]

If we disregard Pascal and Fred as future building blocks, and just look at what we could do to put another star beside Scottie, this starts to make a lot of sense, even if only because OG is always injured. On the court he's a perfect fit and we shouldn't trade him, but he's clearly not hoping to evolve into a main scorer. If Masai sees a 1A alpha available at 7 I'd rather he take the chance on that than keep OG.

We're attached to Pascal and Fred ffs could you imagine how excited we would be if we truly built around Scotty and another blue chip prospect? Best part is we don't even have to sacrifice our winning culture we've built cuz we'll still have Fred and Pascal to give us a few more winning regular seasons until the young guys are ready. It's a step back in the short term but an investment into our future and I personally hope Masai and Bobby take it.

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[WuTang_CMB]

If we disregard Pascal and Fred as future building blocks, and just look at what we could do to put another star beside Scottie, this starts to make a lot of sense, even if only because OG is always injured. On the court he's a perfect fit and we shouldn't trade him, but he's clearly not hoping to evolve into a main scorer. If Masai sees a 1A alpha available at 7 I'd rather he take the chance on that than keep OG.

We're attached to Pascal and Fred ffs could you imagine how excited we would be if we truly built around Scotty and another blue chip prospect? Best part is we don't even have to sacrifice our winning culture we've built cuz we'll still have Fred and Pascal to give us a few more winning regular seasons until the young guys are ready. It's a step back in the short term but an investment into our future and I personally hope Masai and Bobby take it.

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I hear you but you and I both know they won't be taking a step back next season. All things from Masai point to let FVV/Siakam/OG continue to grow and Scottie/Precious/Trent right behind them

[mademan]

If we disregard Pascal and Fred as future building blocks, and just look at what we could do to put another star beside Scottie, this starts to make a lot of sense, even if only because OG is always injured. On the court he's a perfect fit and we shouldn't trade him, but he's clearly not hoping to evolve into a main scorer. If Masai sees a 1A alpha available at 7 I'd rather he take the chance on that than keep OG.

We're attached to Pascal and Fred ffs could you imagine how excited we would be if we truly built around Scotty and another blue chip prospect? Best part is we don't even have to sacrifice our winning culture we've built cuz we'll still have Fred and Pascal to give us a few more winning regular seasons until the young guys are ready. It's a step back in the short term but an investment into our future and I personally hope Masai and Bobby take it.

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I hear you but you and I both know they won't be taking a step back next season. All things from Masai point to let FVV/Siakam/OG continue to grow and Scottie/Precious/Trent right behind them

its not sustainable. Decisions will need to be made at some point. The team isnt good enough, it's not balanced in any way (poor guard play/no C), and everyones gonna be looking for raises; GTJ/FVV the upcoming offseason and OG/Precious the year after. Standing still and paying everyone isnt a great option.

To me, you have to anticipate these things and sidestep them. I dont wanna be at a point where we're paying OG/FVV/GTJ nearly 90 mill combined.

[OakleyDokely]

OG has the 7th most win shares from his draft class and would probably be a spot or two higher if he played more games. If you did a re-draft, he'd be one of the top picks. If you review all the recent drafts, OG would go in the top 10 in re-drafts.

Around draft time, people tend overestimate what you actually get at pick #7. The chances are, the player you take won't be as good as OG. If you look at the last 10 #7 overall picks, there's probably only 1 guy you'd take over OG, Jamal Murray, and even he's a question mark now given his injury. The last 10 #7 picks include H Barnes, Noel, Randle, Mudiay, Murray, Markkanen, Carter Jr, C White, Hayes, Kuminga.

Even as well as the Raptors draft, the quality of player you get is still somewhat dependent on the strength of the draft. If the Raps are really sure about a player at #7, maybe you consider it, but coming out ahead in a trade like this is still tough.

[Morse Code]

OG has the 7th most win shares from his draft class and would probably be a spot or two higher if he played more games. If you did a re-draft, he'd be one of the top picks. If you review all the recent drafts, OG would go in the top 10 in re-drafts.

Around draft time, people tend overestimate what you actually get at pick #7. The chances are, the player you take won't be as good as OG. If you look at the last 10 #7 overall picks, there's probably only 1 guy you'd take over OG, Jamal Murray, and even he's a question mark now given his injury. The last 10 #7 picks include H Barnes, Noel, Randle, Mudiay, Murray, Markkanen, Carter Jr, C White, Hayes, Kuminga.

Even as well as the Raptors draft, the quality of player you get is still somewhat dependent on the strength of the draft. If the Raps are really sure about a player at #7, maybe you consider it, but coming out ahead in a trade like this is still tough.

Obviously they wouldn’t consider it if they didn’t have faith in a particular guy at 7 though, so that’s kind of a moot point


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[OakleyDokely]

OG has the 7th most win shares from his draft class and would probably be a spot or two higher if he played more games. If you did a re-draft, he'd be one of the top picks. If you review all the recent drafts, OG would go in the top 10 in re-drafts.

Around draft time, people tend overestimate what you actually get at pick #7. The chances are, the player you take won't be as good as OG. If you look at the last 10 #7 overall picks, there's probably only 1 guy you'd take over OG, Jamal Murray, and even he's a question mark now given his injury. The last 10 #7 picks include H Barnes, Noel, Randle, Mudiay, Murray, Markkanen, Carter Jr, C White, Hayes, Kuminga.

Even as well as the Raptors draft, the quality of player you get is still somewhat dependent on the strength of the draft. If the Raps are really sure about a player at #7, maybe you consider it, but coming out ahead in a trade like this is still tough.

Obviously they wouldn’t consider it if they didn’t have faith in a particular guy at 7 though, so that’s kind of a moot point


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Seems like they're not a fan of the guys at 7, at least not enough to give up OG, otherwise the deal would be done.