JJ Redick speaks the Truth - 80/90s NBA vs Today

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JJ Redick speaks the Truth - 80/90s NBA vs Today 

Post#1 » by jerok » Wed Jun 8, 2022 7:22 pm

JJ Redick on Get Up calling out Old timers narrative on today's players.



Summary:
JJ was annoyed about NBA players today being inferior to the nostalgic standard set by the media about 80 and 90's players/NBA.

Although the segment is mostly about players complaining, JJ did mention many arguments made by the current media, many of whom covered 80s and 90s NBA.


I totally agree with JJ. Only in the NBA, no other sport where 80 and 90s will always be better than current generation, like evolution doesn't matter.

For example. Drop any of these athletes in their respective sport in the 80s or 90s and everyone will think they Gods.
Lionel Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo, Usain Bolt, Patrick Mahomes, Tyson Fury, George St. Pierre, Connor McGregor, Kumaru Usman, Rafael Nadal, Roger Federer, Novak Djokovic, List goes on.

But if you do the same for the NBA, with Lebron, Durant, Harden, Steph, Kyrie, etc, for some reason they can't play in the 80s or 90s.
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Post#2 » by life_saver » Wed Jun 8, 2022 7:24 pm

No lies there. Only nostalgia merchants think players were better back in those days. These are the same people who think players played defense in every regular season game back then and that no one plays defense now.
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Post#3 » by Collymore » Wed Jun 8, 2022 7:27 pm

Drop Ultimate Warrior, Mr Perfect or Demolition in todays weak sauce wrestling and it would end up in a blood bath.
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Post#4 » by Clyde Frazier » Wed Jun 8, 2022 7:27 pm

Not a fan of the time machine argument to bring down former players. There's no shame in dominating the competition you faced at the time. All that said, some of the get off my lawn stuff from former players sucks too (even from guys who didn't play that long ago like mcgrady). Meanwhile you have someone like Iverson (who got a lot of criticism in his career) embracing the current players/game. That's refreshing to see.

The 80s and 90s had plenty of elite talent and some teams did play rough. The rules were literally different and changed as a result to make the game more entertaining. So yeah, it's a different game these days. I do think the athletic guards/wings from years ago would benefit playing today. But yeah, the "my era was better than yours" **** is a bad look all around.
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Post#5 » by The Rebel » Wed Jun 8, 2022 7:29 pm

The funny thing about JJ Reddick is how he only became a rotation player after the league changed the dribbling and carry rules while starting to ignore moving screens by Howard. So admitting the rules today helps perimeter players would be admitting without those he couldn't have played in the league without them.
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Post#6 » by Nate505 » Wed Jun 8, 2022 7:30 pm

He comes off as pretty bitter and defensive for a guy who believes his era is the end all and be all of basketball
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Post#7 » by The Rebel » Wed Jun 8, 2022 7:32 pm

jerok wrote:JJ Redick on Get Up calling out Old timers narrative on today's players.



Summary:
JJ was annoyed about NBA players today being inferior to the nostalgic standard set by the media about 80 and 90's players/NBA.

Although the segment is mostly about players complaining, JJ did mention many arguments made by the current media, many of whom covered 80s and 90s NBA.


I totally agree with JJ. Only in the NBA, no other sport where 80 and 90s will always be better than current generation, like evolution doesn't matter.

For example. Drop any of these athletes in their respective sport in the 80s or 90s and everyone will think their Gods.
Lionel Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo, Usain Bolt, Patrick Mahomes, Tyson Fury, George St. Pierre, Connor McGregor, Kumaru Usman, Rafael Nadal, Roger Federer, Novak Djokovic, List goes on.

But if you do the same for the NBA, with Lebron, Durant, Harden, Steph, Kyrie, etc, for some reason they can't play in the 80s or 90s.

Lmao evolutions takes thousands of years every where but in the NBA I guess. It is sad how little young people know about life before them and how little respect they have for it.

Once again there are literally studies out there showing that strength and athleticism is actually declining due to lower testosterone but keep telling yourself lies.
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Post#8 » by Memories » Wed Jun 8, 2022 7:38 pm

JJ sounded like a pompous jerk here with his constant interruption and logical fallacies. As much as I love to dig at SAS's loud mouth ass, this was just JJ acting like a dick here. Nor was he even correct about almost anything here.
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Re: JJ Redick speaks the Truth - 80/90s NBA vs Today 

Post#9 » by jerok » Wed Jun 8, 2022 7:41 pm

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jerok wrote:JJ Redick on Get Up calling out Old timers narrative on today's players.



Summary:
JJ was annoyed about NBA players today being inferior to the nostalgic standard set by the media about 80 and 90's players/NBA.

Although the segment is mostly about players complaining, JJ did mention many arguments made by the current media, many of whom covered 80s and 90s NBA.


I totally agree with JJ. Only in the NBA, no other sport where 80 and 90s will always be better than current generation, like evolution doesn't matter.

For example. Drop any of these athletes in their respective sport in the 80s or 90s and everyone will think their Gods.
Lionel Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo, Usain Bolt, Patrick Mahomes, Tyson Fury, George St. Pierre, Connor McGregor, Kumaru Usman, Rafael Nadal, Roger Federer, Novak Djokovic, List goes on.

But if you do the same for the NBA, with Lebron, Durant, Harden, Steph, Kyrie, etc, for some reason they can't play in the 80s or 90s.

Lmao evolutions takes thousands of years every where but in the NBA I guess. It is sad how little young people know about life before them and how little respect they have for it.

Once again there are literally studies out there showing that strength and athleticism is actually declining due to lower testosterone but keep telling yourself lies.


It doesn't take a scientist to see how much more advance athletes are today, with access to modern science etc.
We're not talking about evolution of species, which does take a long time, and is the only valid point of your post.

So these studies pertains to the top athletes we have today right? Not just your average joes correct?

There are no lies here, like I said ONLY in the NBA where 80 and 90s will always be better. You don't really hear that non sense with other sports. Keep living in that nostalgia though, its not a bad place to be, that era of ball was amazing.
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Post#10 » by Jkam31 » Wed Jun 8, 2022 7:43 pm

What’s even more embarrassing about this clown JJ is he’s saying it’s annoying and disrespectful to say that but he’s the same clown that called and era of basketball plumbers
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Post#11 » by Sprewell4Three » Wed Jun 8, 2022 7:44 pm

You don’t even have to be an old timer to say that the technical calls are trash in todays league. I’m of the mindset of letting these guys play , stop reviewing ticky tack fouls , it prolongs the game. That’s what we mean about the softness of the league.

JJ Redick was defensive and sounds like the typical IG, Twitter 2022 NBA fan that’s shtick is to call players from the past garbagemen and plumbers. I would expect more from JJ then to continue to parrot talking points by casual NBA fans.
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Post#12 » by hauntedcomputer » Wed Jun 8, 2022 7:48 pm

would anyone remember JJ except for Duke fans if not for his budget SAS impersonation? Would JJ have made it on the court in the 1960s?
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Post#13 » by Bobbymcgee » Wed Jun 8, 2022 7:51 pm

A top tier player is going to be pretty good in any era. I'm sure Wilt Chamberlain, Dr. J, Charles Barkley would be a pretty decent players in today's NBA. Just to name a few.
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Post#14 » by SichtingLives » Wed Jun 8, 2022 7:52 pm

Nate505 wrote:He comes off as pretty bitter and defensive for a guy who believes his era is the end all and be all of basketball


Everyone who stans this era has that same tone. Deep down, they know the truth like everyone else. Just can't admit it because they've attached their identity to the product.
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Post#15 » by DavidSterned » Wed Jun 8, 2022 7:52 pm

The Rebel wrote:The funny thing about JJ Reddick is how he only became a rotation player after the league changed the dribbling and carry rules while starting to ignore moving screens by Howard. So admitting the rules today helps perimeter players would be admitting without those he couldn't have played in the league without them.


It is funny... By Redick's own logic his rookie season should have been his best since his competition supposedly got progressively and continually better throughout his career as the younger generation seeped in.

Instead the very opposite is true, and he's a guy who sure seemed to comparatively struggle a lot more in the even slightly more physical and less pro-offense version of the NBA in the late 2000s.
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Post#16 » by celticfan42487 » Wed Jun 8, 2022 7:53 pm

Half of these "allstars' had career low in shooting just due to refs occasionally not calling a flop for the first half of the year.

I can imagine how much they'd suffer if the game allowed any form of physicality again, it wouldn't be hard to imagine because we saw it for years and it's why the game gravitated towards big men.

I think if we let the physicality of the 90s back in with the current understanding of analytics we'd have a balanced game. But the rules are horrifically biased to punish every type of skill other than one uniform type of player that excels at scrimmaged styled 3 point attempts.
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Post#18 » by GSWFan1994 » Wed Jun 8, 2022 8:01 pm

Those who followed the NBA 20/30+ years ago know that what's played now, rules-wise, is a vastly different sport.

That, alone and by itself, is a pretty convincing argument.
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Post#19 » by bisme37 » Wed Jun 8, 2022 8:07 pm

I just don't understand why dude keeps going out of his way to repeatedly disrespect the people who paved the way for him to become a millionaire basketball player and even be on TV talking about the sport. Weird fight to pick and very off-putting in my opinion.
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Post#20 » by jpengland » Wed Jun 8, 2022 8:07 pm

Hes right.

Genetics, training advancements, globalisation, population growth, analytics etc etc have resulted in much deeper, much better players.

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