2021-2022 College Basketball / NBA Draft

[Negrodamus]

All of these prospects are so uninteresting.

Feeling nihilistic

Yea, it's a tough one this year.

[Kobblehead]

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I'm riding the Ryan Rollins rollercoaster, but he has to be a first rounder right? 80% FT, not yet 20, gets to the line, almost 6'10 wingspan, generates a ton of steals... He's the type of guy you select because of his star numbers but he'll end up a very good role player. I'd even keep him in the G League for the year and let him dominate while we figure out what we have with Jaden Springer.

He nearly hits every stat I'm looking for in a prospect. Eye test gives me a little concern, but the dude actually has good percentages on low assisted shots. Let him put on some muscle and groom him for a year or two down the road.

I think Rollins is real solid. Reminds me a bit of Spencer Dinwiddie. A little smaller and slightly less skilled, but they play and produce similarly.

[Arsenal]

Love Rollins based on the numbers alone. Don't want to spend #23 on a guard but if we can acquire another pick I'm game.

[ankle420breaker]

Dalen Terry is intriguing. Raw scorer, but has a little Dejaunte in him.

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[Kobblehead]

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Man, this gotta be the pick. Maxey and McGowens are the next generation of this franchise that will carry post-prime Embiid to a title, Duncan style.

[Negrodamus]

Damn dude, he looked horrendous in this game. 6/19 shooting? Needed OT to get to 18 (13 at the end of the second half). I don't think there's a more raw prospect in this draft.

[Kobblehead]

I'll take the 19 year old skilled guy, regardless of how much area of improvement he needs. If he has the work ethic, he's going to be a star level creation core piece.

[Kobblehead]

The biggest mistake McGowens made was following his brother and committing to Nebraska (who has been a trainwreck under Hoiberg).

Had McGowens went to Clemson or South Carolina, his ancillary numbers would be a lot better and he'd likely be a top 5 pick.

[stormi]

Dalen Terry is intriguing. Raw scorer, but has a little Dejaunte in him.

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He's one of the few guys that intrigues me projectwise with his physical tools and court feel, but even then, pick 21 feels early for his lack of production and that shaky jumper

Hardy...Terry/Moore.. Eason if he drops are interesting. Other than that this pick can get traded.

And if you really wanted to Desmond Bane someone, OKC have 3 firsts and an early second. Shouldn't be troubling to trade in at #30 or #34 to scoop up one of Laravia/McGowens/Braun/Chandler/Houston/Minott/Keels or whoever falls.

[Kobblehead]

We can buy a 2nd rounder for a college veteran role player. Need to use 23 on a skilled 19 year old with scoring upside.

[Negrodamus]

I'll take the 19 year old skilled guy, regardless of how much area of improvement he needs. If he has the work ethic, he's going to be a star level creation core piece.

I think the last few times we've seen his type, it was in the form of Brandon Boston (who underperformed as a whole, so didn't really hit the same, albeit inefficient, scoring marks as McGowens) and Kevin Porter Jr. I don't think McGowens is going to be off the walls crazy like Porter, but I truly can't believe a guy with < 1.5 STL%, < 1.5 BLK%, <10 AST%, <50% 2FG is going to pan out.

I mean, what is his ceiling? He doesn't have a distributing bone in his body and has zero natural defensive ability on plenty large of a sample size. I was railing on Ben when he was in college but he slept walk through an absurd defensive stat line. Same with Fultz.

At the very least, McGowens could have shown that. And it's not like Nebraska was devoid of talent. They had Alonzo Verge who was a decent talent at ASU. His brother wasn't bad at Pitt. They had a few other transfers from power 5 schools. It feels like they just asked him to score by any means necessary and do nothing else.

[Kobblehead]

Pretty similar to Cam Thomas from just a year ago. Elite free throw rate. Excellent skill level and free throw shooting. Bad assist, steal, block percentages. Just a longer, leaner version of Cam Thomas. Thomas is going to be a playoff killer in a few years. As will McGowens, IMO.

[Kobblehead]

I thought you liked Moses Moody last year?

Moody had single digit assist percentage and pitiful steal numbers.

I think Moody is going to be a really good SG in this league. Same with Bryce, in my eyes.

[stormi]

Bryce McGowens was pretty horrid this year, but he's your typical boom bust project hiding in plain sight.

No real athleticism, and he's Duncan Robinson level atrocious on defense (red flag). He also makes no plays via passing (red flag), but he's young, has good length, shot well from the FT line and got to the line on volume. Looking like an Alec Burks prototype.

I'd probably take like 80% of the guys that went between 20-40 in last years class over McGowens, but he's a fine gamble if you couldn't move this pick for an impact player that could slide into your playoff rotation - like the Celtics did with Derrick White or the Bucks did with Grayson Allen.

[Negrodamus]

Yea, but you can see the effect of Moses Moody on Arkansas and Cam Thomas on LSU. I know BPM gets a bad rap, but they both had +6 BPM. PER +20. 55+ TS%. Better 3FG% (not that that means too much). Winning teams with them being the leading scorer in a harder conference.

I feel like KZ Okpala is a better comparison.

[Kobblehead]

I think LSU and Arkansas are just good programs. BPM has a heavy emphasis on team success. It cannot be emphasized enough how much of a trainwreck the Nebraska basketball program is. Here's the record in the two years prior to this year (both under Hoiberg).

7-25
7-20

I would throw all plus minus stats out the window in situations like this.

McGowens is highly skilled and shot a really high percentage on his free throws. He's long, lean, and athletic. He's a confident scorer with a great sense of court geometry and scoring moves in his bag. He's going to be a stud. Not worried about ancillary traits or plus minus stuff with him.

[Negrodamus]

As I said before, I can't really think of a ceiling for him based on statistics. Maybe LaVine at UCLA. The guys you've mentioned haven't even done anything yet in the league, so the jury is still out on whether this archetype even thrives. I'm still not even convinced Cam Thomas is playable in the playoffs because he's so horrendous on defense.

Just watching the Finals and I can't even pinpoint a guy who had a similar path to the league of these teams or even the teams they faced in the previous round. I'd feel more encouraged if McGowens had a 7' wingspan, but he's only a +2 in length. I suppose time will tell.

[Negrodamus]

I think I'm set on taking Ryan Rollins if we don't trade the pick. I see a path to a CJ McCollum type player with strikingly similar physical profile. He didn't quite hit the McCollum level stats, but CJ was also playing against doofuses in the Patriot league.

[stormi]

I think I'm settling into the Liddell/Moore pathing unless Hardy/Branham/Eason fall. Collect your Grant Williams / Jae Crowder / PJ Tucker type playoff contributor and live to fight another day.

[Kobblehead]

Trade up for Branham is the ultimate dream scenario. Standing pat and landing McGowens would be option B. Or use the pick to trade for Coby White. I really don't won't to use this pick on a 21 year old college vet that Doc probably won't play in year 1 anyway.