2021-22 NBA Season Discussion

[yoyoboy]

Celtics is just so much better in every way. Curry can score 50 but aint going to be enough on the other hand Tatum can chuck his way into his FMVPs. The talent level and defensive level is just not the same.

I don't think defensive level is on another level, Warriors has elite defensive core themselves.

GS has weaker links. They feel just as smart and on point with their rotations and positioning. But Boston is just so strong across the board. GS has multiple guys who can be attacked off the dribble and they can get pounded on the boards inside.

[70sFan]

Celtics is just so much better in every way. Curry can score 50 but aint going to be enough on the other hand Tatum can chuck his way into his FMVPs. The talent level and defensive level is just not the same.

I don't think defensive level is on another level, Warriors has elite defensive core themselves.

its a gamble situation, if we go with defensive lineup we have to leave Poole on the bench and hope Klay can produce some offense. But if you look closely, Klay is actually having the lowest DRtg on this team so its going to be tough to play out.

There is no "defensive lineup" for the Warriors. Their starting lineup includes 3 elite defenders, Curry and Klay who are also quite good. They also have GP2 of course.

If you want to say that Warriors aren't good enough offensively, then maybe (I don't think I agree) you have a case, but there is nothing wrong with their defense.

[GSP]

This Celtics team might be the most fun team to watch defensively I've ever seen. Everyone is on the same page defensively with rotations and everyone busts their asses.

Most of the time yeah. Smart has been lost defending Steph all series tho like i predicted. Someone asked me whod be the best option before the series started and i said White and hes by far the best Steph defender.

Smart has been absolute ass cheeks defending him. Struggling on screens, losing him off ball, miscommunication with bigs on what coverage theyre running. Would love to see Stephs numbers with Smart as primary defender VS everyone else. Its prolly a gigantic difference.

[jalengreen]

feels like looney should be getting more minutes. it's not like he's a very exploitable big IMO, and his rebounding is a huge boost to a team that desperately needed it. i know he was in foul trouble but he finished with 3 fouls, definitely could've played more

[MyUniBroDavis]

I don't think defensive level is on another level, Warriors has elite defensive core themselves.

its a gamble situation, if we go with defensive lineup we have to leave Poole on the bench and hope Klay can produce some offense. But if you look closely, Klay is actually having the lowest DRtg on this team so its going to be tough to play out.

There is no "defensive lineup" for the Warriors. Their starting lineup includes 3 elite defenders, Curry and Klay who are also quite good. They also have GP2 of course.

If you want to say that Warriors aren't good enough offensively, then maybe (I don't think I agree) you have a case, but there is nothing wrong with their defense.

Ones solid but still has weak points with their lack of size and Curry is good at rotating but definately can be attacked

The Celtics defense is ludicrously stacked, each position might have a top 5 defender by position. They have one bleh defender in Pritchard and everyone else is elite.

[70sFan]

Which team historically does 2022 Celtics remind you the most on defense?

[70sFan]

its a gamble situation, if we go with defensive lineup we have to leave Poole on the bench and hope Klay can produce some offense. But if you look closely, Klay is actually having the lowest DRtg on this team so its going to be tough to play out.

There is no "defensive lineup" for the Warriors. Their starting lineup includes 3 elite defenders, Curry and Klay who are also quite good. They also have GP2 of course.

If you want to say that Warriors aren't good enough offensively, then maybe (I don't think I agree) you have a case, but there is nothing wrong with their defense.

Ones solid but still has weak points with their lack of size and Curry is good at rotating but definately can be attacked

The Celtics defense is ludicrously stacked, each position might have a top 5 defender by position. They have one bleh defender in Pritchard and everyone else is elite.

Sure, Celtics defense is better but let's not act like Warriors aren't stacked defensively either. They have three legit all-defensive players and one of the most switchable bigs in the league. Curry and Klay aren't bad either.

[Peregrine01]

feels like looney should be getting more minutes. it's not like he's a very exploitable big IMO, and his rebounding is a huge boost to a team that desperately needed it. i know he was in foul trouble but he finished with 3 fouls, definitely could've played more

He would've been so much better than Draymond this game. Draymond had 4 rebounds in 35 minutes of play. Looney had 7 rebounds in 16 minutes. 4 rebounds...Bargnani could've managed more.

[cpower]

There is no "defensive lineup" for the Warriors. Their starting lineup includes 3 elite defenders, Curry and Klay who are also quite good. They also have GP2 of course.

If you want to say that Warriors aren't good enough offensively, then maybe (I don't think I agree) you have a case, but there is nothing wrong with their defense.

Ones solid but still has weak points with their lack of size and Curry is good at rotating but definately can be attacked

The Celtics defense is ludicrously stacked, each position might have a top 5 defender by position. They have one bleh defender in Pritchard and everyone else is elite.

Sure, Celtics defense is better but let's not act like Warriors aren't stacked defensively either. They have three legit all-defensive players and one of the most switchable bigs in the league. Curry and Klay aren't bad either.

but Draymond is having the worst series in his career, g1 he was not defending the threes and this game he just disappeared completely. We have no shot of winning if our 2nd best player does absolutely nothing in a NBA final series.

[PaulieWal]

Which team historically does 2022 Celtics remind you the most on defense?

2019 Raptors, 2013 Heat, that defense on a string is so much fun to watch. Specifically the Raptors I remember being wowed by their defensive sequences in so many games that year.

Miami in 2013 got injured/ran out of gas so sometimes people don't really talk about how good they were when they were rolling but Bosh pioneered the big help and recovery and switching on PnRs that year. Zach Lowe wrote an article about it at the time about how guards rated Bosh as one of the tougher big men to play against.

[MyUniBroDavis]

There is no "defensive lineup" for the Warriors. Their starting lineup includes 3 elite defenders, Curry and Klay who are also quite good. They also have GP2 of course.

If you want to say that Warriors aren't good enough offensively, then maybe (I don't think I agree) you have a case, but there is nothing wrong with their defense.

Ones solid but still has weak points with their lack of size and Curry is good at rotating but definately can be attacked

The Celtics defense is ludicrously stacked, each position might have a top 5 defender by position. They have one bleh defender in Pritchard and everyone else is elite.

Sure, Celtics defense is better but let's not act like Warriors aren't stacked defensively either. They have three legit all-defensive players and one of the most switchable bigs in the league. Curry and Klay aren't bad either.

Again, Curry is attackable, and dray hasn’t been too effective. They’re a good defense, but this Celtics team is absurd. Again, smarts probably the best defensive guard in the league, smart and Tatum are top 5 defensive wings, horford has played like a DPOY, Williams absurd rim protection, grant randomly can shut down Giannis now, and whites great at navigating through screens

[GSP]

Which team historically does 2022 Celtics remind you the most on defense?

Prolly one of the 80s Bucks teams but i dont think they had the big man rotation we do. Horford, Rob, Grant are all very different and unique in what each provide for the team its like a revolving door for teams to deal with how we can matchup against different styles

[dontcalltimeout]

So uhh this is where we are for the playoffs thus far

[falcolombardi]

So uhh this is where we are for the playoffs thus far

klay -83, always knew he was a fraud

[jalengreen]

So uhh this is where we are for the playoffs thus far

feel like the 3PT% on the 3 guard lineup's gotta be low due to noise

[70sFan]

Which team historically does 2022 Celtics remind you the most on defense?

Prolly one of the 80s Bucks teams but i dont think they had the big man rotation we do. Horford, Rob, Grant are all very different and unique in what each provide for the team its like a revolving door for teams to deal with how we can matchup against different styles

Lanier/Lister/Catchings was quite good rotation, though Celtics trio is probably more versatile.

On the other hand, Bucks had more depth at wing positions which may sound absurd but they could play lineups with Squid/Pressey/Marques at times

[GSP]

Which team historically does 2022 Celtics remind you the most on defense?

Prolly one of the 80s Bucks teams but i dont think they had the big man rotation we do. Horford, Rob, Grant are all very different and unique in what each provide for the team its like a revolving door for teams to deal with how we can matchup against different styles

Lanier/Lister/Catchings was quite good rotation, though Celtics trio is probably more versatile.

On the other hand, Bucks had more depth at wing positions which may sound absurd but they could play lineups with Squid/Pressey/Marques at times

Yeah but when we play 2 bigs i think Smart, Jaylen or White, Tatum is def comparable

[70sFan]

Prolly one of the 80s Bucks teams but i dont think they had the big man rotation we do. Horford, Rob, Grant are all very different and unique in what each provide for the team its like a revolving door for teams to deal with how we can matchup against different styles

Lanier/Lister/Catchings was quite good rotation, though Celtics trio is probably more versatile.

On the other hand, Bucks had more depth at wing positions which may sound absurd but they could play lineups with Squid/Pressey/Marques at times

Yeah but when we play 2 bigs i think Smart, Jaylen or White, Tatum is def comparable

True, it's insane to think about it. Celtics are utterly stacked defensively. If we compare their lineup with, say 1983 Bucks, they look at least on the same level:

Smart vs Squid
Brown vs Winters
Tatum vs Bridgeman
Horford vs Marques
Rob vs Lanier

White vs Pressey
Grant vs Lister
Theis vs Catchings

I don't know, I might give Celtics the edge overall...

[falcolombardi]

what do you guys think about draymond defense this series?

[cpower]

what do you guys think about draymond defense this series?

https://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2022-nba-finals-celtics-vs-warriors.html
his Drtg is pretty terrible and probably go down after g3.