[Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy

[NotMyKawhi]

I prefer trading fvv or gary

the last time we went into a season with both of them in a contract year, one of the worst seasons ever

[vulture]

Holiday is just expiring salary filler. Maybe make a 3-way sending Holiday with Svi as expiring contracts for something?

They would have to include at least Harrison Barnes for this to even be a discussion. the raptors aren't trying to take a step back next season.

nobody cares about Barnes or Holiday if we get #4

I can't see the raptors trading OG for only the 4th pick and I don't know if the kings do that either.

[Madhouse]

They would have to include at least Harrison Barnes for this to even be a discussion. the raptors aren't trying to take a step back next season.

nobody cares about Barnes or Holiday if we get #4

I can't see the raptors trading OG for only the 4th pick and I don't know if the kings do that either.

Kings definitely wouldn't, doesn't move the needle for them in any way.

[anotherhomer]

i doubt this is public negotiation but i could be wrong....

my takeaway is that this is a way of shutting down the offers

[lobosloboslobos]

i doubt this is public negotiation but i could be wrong....

my takeaway is that this is a way of shutting down the offers

if only we could shut down this thread

[Johnny Bball]

i doubt this is public negotiation but i could be wrong....

my takeaway is that this is a way of shutting down the offers

Yes, the raptors management are all passive aggressive, only use text and social media and cant convey their thoughts by phone call to Portland so it goes on twitter from their AGM.

[DelAbbot]

Offseason is really tough for everyone. A fake rumor about OG and we get 40 pages +

OG ain't getting traded

I like how you makeout the offseason is a reason for a mental health crisis, Del.

Mental health crisis? We are all middle aged men talking like teenagers on an online forum so... yah

[douggood]

Add spurs and nuggets to teams interested in OG.
https://www.actionnetwork.com/nba/nba-intel-trade-rumors-draft-intel-early-free-agency-targets-2022-matt-moore

The Raptors are another name to watch as they have been again actively looking at options to improve at center after striking out on bigger targets at the trade deadline and ultimately dealing for Thaddeus Young. The Raptors are limited to only the MLE unless they clear salary, so a trade is the most likely option.

Along those lines, don’t be surprised to see more smoke around a potential trade for OG Anunoby. The Raptors with a re-signed Masai Ujiri like their core, but ultimately upgrades will have to come with the inclusion of one of Fred VanVleet, Pascal Siakam, or Anunoby, and Rookie of the Year Scottie Barnes’ emergence opens the door for gauging Anunoby’s value on the market…

And that value is high.

Among the potential trade partners for an Anunoby deal, Portland is consistently mentioned as a possibility, along with Denver and San Antonio. The Blazers are expected to be aggressive with the seventh pick in trade talks as they look to get win-now talent back around Damian Lillard.

[OakleyDokely]

OG will have a market of 29 teams. He's young, relatively cheap and he's a productive two way player. Rebuilding teams, treadmill teams, contenders would all have interest.

[vulture]

OG will have a market of 29 teams. He's young, relatively cheap and he's a productive two way player. Rebuilding teams, treadmill teams, contenders would all have interest.

Absolutely! OKC would happily give up some picks for him.

[tecumseh18]

i doubt this is public negotiation but i could be wrong....

my takeaway is that this is a way of shutting down the offers

Yes, the raptors management are all passive aggressive, only use text and social media and cant convey their thoughts by phone call to Portland so it goes on twitter from their AGM.

In any negotiation, he who talks first, loses. Better to vaguely stake out your position (no ... but maybe) in the cybersphere, forcing the other side(s) to eventually formulate a wild-ass offer we can't refuse.

I'm tempted to make a separate poll thread, but it just feels like this chatter has legs, the way Kawhi for DeMar buzz did before the trade ultimately went down (after being stalled for a week because Masai refused to give up Pascal or OG).

[Johnny Bball]

i doubt this is public negotiation but i could be wrong....

my takeaway is that this is a way of shutting down the offers

Yes, the raptors management are all passive aggressive, only use text and social media and cant convey their thoughts by phone call to Portland so it goes on twitter from their AGM.

In any negotiation, he who talks first, loses. Better to vaguely stake out your position (no ... but maybe) in the cybersphere, forcing the other side(s) to eventually formulate a wild-ass offer we can't refuse.

I'm tempted to make a separate poll thread, but it just feels like this chatter has legs, the way Kawhi for DeMar buzz did before the trade ultimately went down (after being stalled for a week because Masai refused to give up Pascal or OG).

So every time you buy a house or a car, you lose. Unless they randomly call you first. Interesting idea.

[alienchild]

Yes, the raptors management are all passive aggressive, only use text and social media and cant convey their thoughts by phone call to Portland so it goes on twitter from their AGM.

In any negotiation, he who talks first, loses. Better to vaguely stake out your position (no ... but maybe) in the cybersphere, forcing the other side(s) to eventually formulate a wild-ass offer we can't refuse.

I'm tempted to make a separate poll thread, but it just feels like this chatter has legs, the way Kawhi for DeMar buzz did before the trade ultimately went down (after being stalled for a week because Masai refused to give up Pascal or OG).

So every time you buy a house or a car, you lose. Unless they randomly call you first. Interesting idea.

FFS, Tolzman didn't talk first, he merely answered a question asked by one of our lame-brained media. Yet answers like he gave spawn conspiracy theories from nutbars who try to parse everything that the FO says. It's how this forum comes to 40+ pages of baby talk on a rumour. The more people see, the less they know.

[WuTang_CMB]

OG put up 18 and 5 per game on 55%TS with only a 20% usage rate

Brandon Ingram for context put up 23 per game on 55% TS with a 29% usage rate.

If OG had a higher usage rate even at 25% he would average the same if not more. Both are the same age.

He is incredibly under-valued in the market place which is why every team is seeing if they can grab him knowing Toronto has a glut of similar guys.

[mihaic]

^^ He does not easily create his own shot, so most likely, increased usage will result in efficiency dropping.

Unless he works on his handles...

[tecumseh18]

Yes, the raptors management are all passive aggressive, only use text and social media and cant convey their thoughts by phone call to Portland so it goes on twitter from their AGM.

In any negotiation, he who talks first, loses. Better to vaguely stake out your position (no ... but maybe) in the cybersphere, forcing the other side(s) to eventually formulate a wild-ass offer we can't refuse.

I'm tempted to make a separate poll thread, but it just feels like this chatter has legs, the way Kawhi for DeMar buzz did before the trade ultimately went down (after being stalled for a week because Masai refused to give up Pascal or OG).

So every time you buy a house or a car, you lose. Unless they randomly call you first. Interesting idea.

I've bought, reno'd and sold 6 or 7 houses. What seems to be working for Toronto sellers for the last 20 years is to underlist your house for a non-price that's completely meaningless. Nobody expects you to sell it for that, but it attracts multiple offers who then bid up the price for a crazy amount. So yes, the buyers "talked" first. And yes, they "lost" - paid a lot more than the house was probably worth.

Even before the latest supply bottleneck, new car dealers don't negotiate anymore. It's annoying for someone like me raised (in Indonesia) to bargain. But only suckers buy new cars. When I bought my last car (used) from a dealer, I said, "OK, I'm not going to pay your sticker price. What are you really willing to sell it for?" And when they give me a lower number, I subtracted a couple of thousand bucks on my counter offer.

You're welcome.

[NotMyKawhi]

^^ He does not easily create his own shot, so most likely, increased usage will result in efficiency dropping.

Unless he works on his handles...

OG has a ceiling where he will never become a superstar, probably won't even become an allstar

3D guy. Probably one of the best in the league, but that's his ceiling

[Johnny Bball]

In any negotiation, he who talks first, loses. Better to vaguely stake out your position (no ... but maybe) in the cybersphere, forcing the other side(s) to eventually formulate a wild-ass offer we can't refuse.

I'm tempted to make a separate poll thread, but it just feels like this chatter has legs, the way Kawhi for DeMar buzz did before the trade ultimately went down (after being stalled for a week because Masai refused to give up Pascal or OG).

So every time you buy a house or a car, you lose. Unless they randomly call you first. Interesting idea.

I've bought, reno'd and sold 6 or 7 houses. What seems to be working for Toronto sellers for the last 20 years is to underlist your house for a non-price that's completely meaningless. Nobody expects you to sell it for that, but it attracts multiple offers who then bid up the price for a crazy amount. So yes, the buyers "talked" first. And yes, they "lost" - paid a lot more than the house was probably worth.

Even before the latest supply bottleneck, new car dealers don't negotiate anymore. It's annoying for someone like me raised (in Indonesia) to bargain. But only suckers buy new cars. When I bought my last car (used) from a dealer, I said, "OK, I'm not going to pay your sticker price. What are you really willing to sell it for?" And when they give me a lower number, I subtracted a couple of thousand bucks on my counter offer.

You're welcome.

[mihaic]

In any negotiation, he who talks first, loses. Better to vaguely stake out your position (no ... but maybe) in the cybersphere, forcing the other side(s) to eventually formulate a wild-ass offer we can't refuse.

I'm tempted to make a separate poll thread, but it just feels like this chatter has legs, the way Kawhi for DeMar buzz did before the trade ultimately went down (after being stalled for a week because Masai refused to give up Pascal or OG).

So every time you buy a house or a car, you lose. Unless they randomly call you first. Interesting idea.

FFS, Tolzman didn't talk first, he merely answered a question asked by one of our lame-brained media. Yet answers like he gave spawn conspiracy theories from nutbars who try to parse everything that the FO says. It's how this forum comes to 40+ pages of baby talk on a rumour. The more people see, the less they know.

That is exactly how disinformation works. The more contradictory info there is, the less its certainty.

[Madhouse]

OG put up 18 and 5 per game on 55%TS with only a 20% usage rate

Brandon Ingram for context put up 23 per game on 55% TS with a 29% usage rate.

If OG had a higher usage rate even at 25% he would average the same if not more. Both are the same age.

He is incredibly under-valued in the market place which is why every team is seeing if they can grab him knowing Toronto has a glut of similar guys.

I mean similar is relative.