Dalano Banton Discussion / Appreciation

[Johnny Bball]

one of banton or champagnie will be a rotation player next year

Why not all three.

I have really high hopes for Banton. He could be so good.

Check your arithmetic.

https://www.nbadraft.net/players/julian-champagnie/

[Madhouse]

I think Toronto is counting on him being like the 8th guy in the rotation.

[Gavin_TDThree]

Banton has the game to be the perfect 6th/7th guy off the bench. If the starters are flat, you bring him in early to change up the pace/energy. Just needs that shot to become more reliable

[brownbobcat]

Really good feel for the game and ball IQ. He needs to get into grind mode and work. I can’t say for sure but doesn’t seem like he’s going 100 percent on and off the court. Has the tools to cover those speedy guards that Gary and Fred had trouble with. May end up being a nice surprise contributor next season

Fastest way for him to get into Nurse's lineup is improve his footwork on D. He's so long that he can recover easily if he's just on balance. Offensively, he needs a bit of a running start with a dribble hand-off, but seems comfortable pushing the pace. Obviously the jumper has to improve, but again - his length is really going to help out tremendously if he can put it all together.

[M3tro]

Modern day Shaun Livingston.

[OakleyDokely]

Dalano defended guards very well. They shot only 43% against him. He struggled against bigger wings/bigs, which makes some sense, as his size advantage isn't much of an advantage anymore when he's defending up. Given his skillset, he's going to go up mostly against smaller players, so he should create a lot of mismatches offensively and defensively.

[WaltFrazier]

I love how fast he can push the ball upcourt, as to be one of the fastest guys with the ball. If he can harness that into better finishing, and the ability to hit a pullup, he can be really good. We saw the effect a lightning fast end to end guard can have, in the Sixers series.

[WuTang_CMB]

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Nice, I hope he's shooting 3's and FT's all summer.

[aminiaturebuddha]

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Feel a little bad for the guy in the blue shirt, he wasn't able to do anything against Dalano.

For me, the best part about that little clip was the play at 0:45, where the defender was expecting the backdoor cut, and yet Dalano still managed to feed the ball to the cutter. He really does have good vision and a nice touch on his passes, if he can bring his shooting up to an average level, and improve his ballhandling, he can become a much more useful half-court operator. At this point, he's still mostly a transition guy. He needs to be playable in all situations.

[Madhouse]

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Feel a little bad for the guy in the blue shirt, he wasn't able to do anything against Dalano.

For me, the best part about that little clip was the play at 0:45, where the defender was expecting the backdoor cut, and yet Dalano still managed to feed the ball to the cutter. He really does have good vision and a nice touch on his passes, if he can bring his shooting up to an average level, and improve his ballhandling, he can become a much more useful half-court operator. At this point, he's still mostly a transition guy. He needs to be playable in all situations.

will he develop into a reliable rotational player for 22/23?

[WuTang_CMB]

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Feel a little bad for the guy in the blue shirt, he wasn't able to do anything against Dalano.

For me, the best part about that little clip was the play at 0:45, where the defender was expecting the backdoor cut, and yet Dalano still managed to feed the ball to the cutter. He really does have good vision and a nice touch on his passes, if he can bring his shooting up to an average level, and improve his ballhandling, he can become a much more useful half-court operator. At this point, he's still mostly a transition guy. He needs to be playable in all situations.

will he develop into a reliable rotational player for 22/23?

Only if he can consistently hit a jump shot

He should be launching 1000 3's a day , and a ton of pull up jumpers as well

[aminiaturebuddha]

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Feel a little bad for the guy in the blue shirt, he wasn't able to do anything against Dalano.

For me, the best part about that little clip was the play at 0:45, where the defender was expecting the backdoor cut, and yet Dalano still managed to feed the ball to the cutter. He really does have good vision and a nice touch on his passes, if he can bring his shooting up to an average level, and improve his ballhandling, he can become a much more useful half-court operator. At this point, he's still mostly a transition guy. He needs to be playable in all situations.

will he develop into a reliable rotational player for 22/23?

I guess it depends on what you mean by "reliable". I think he'll get more overall minutes and be a bigger part of the rotation this year in the regular season. But I'm not sure he'll be ready for significant playoff minutes yet. I think he can still get there, but it might take until 23/24.

To really become a bigger part of the rotation he's going to have to fit in with lineups with guys like Pascal, Scottie, and Fred, and that means that he'll need to become a better off-ball player. Right now his main off-ball skill on the offensive end is offensive rebounding. That's nice, but he really needs to develop into a bigger off-ball scoring threat, which, yeah, as others have said, likely involves significantly improving his shooting. Otherwise, he'll only be stuck with spot minutes as a depth ball-handler on the roster.

[OakleyDokely]

I'd like to see more VV/Dalano bench lineups next year. VV has the ability to play off ball and he can function as a secondary ballhandler so Dalano can see more of the ball. The Dalano/VV combo played 182 minutes last year and they had a +7.3 net rating. If you put Dalano with Scottie/Siakam, Dalano will play a lot more off ball in the halfcourt, which is a weakness for him.

[ReggieSlater]

Admittedly in a small sample, but he shot really well from 3 in the g-league. It always seemed like he was rushing his shooting in his small minutes in the NBA. Don't think it's necessarily just an issue of his shooting mechanics. Just needs to get a bit more comfortable. Whatever the reason though, he just needs to start hitting his 3s more often.

[Courtside]

Admittedly in a small sample, but he shot really well from 3 in the g-league. It always seemed like he was rushing his shooting in his small minutes in the NBA. Don't think it's necessarily just an issue of his shooting mechanics. Just needs to get a bit more comfortable. Whatever the reason though, he just needs to start hitting his 3s more often.

Speed is an intetesting topic with Dalano.

When he came in, the first thing that happened was that he was either too fast (moving) or too slow (passing). The size and speed of NBA players is just not something people fully understand until they're in the thick of it.

What I noticed with him, though, is that at the NBA level he is sort if in between. If you can imagine NBA guys moving at Slow - Medium - Fast, it's almost like Banton has this weird S/M or M/F thing going on. In the G league this works as it's kinda messier in general, but in the NBA it's something he has to fine tune, but I think once he does it can be something that can be really disruptive. He can exploit defenses that are used to the more S-M-F that most of the NBA moved at.

If that makes sense.

He absolutely needs to get stronger and has to get a consistent shot. I think for this coming season, he just needs to prove he's worthy of an extension to keep on the Raptors development train. It shouldn't be too tough and he's probably already done that, as long as he doesn't come in either too cocky (TD2, post bubble) or regress in some way (Boucher, before the turnaround). I just hope it's fair and favorable, like 4/15 or something.

[brownbobcat]

Speed is an intetesting topic with Dalano.

When he came in, the first thing that happened was that he was either too fast (moving) or too slow (passing). The size and speed of NBA players is just not something people fully understand until they're in the thick of it.

What I noticed with him, though, is that at the NBA level he is sort if in between. If you can imagine NBA guys moving at Slow - Medium - Fast, it's almost like Banton has this weird S/M or M/F thing going on. In the G league this works as it's kinda messier in general, but in the NBA it's something he has to fine tune, but I think once he does it can be something that can be really disruptive. He can exploit defenses that are used to the more S-M-F that most of the NBA moved at.

If that makes sense.

He absolutely needs to get stronger and has to get a consistent shot. I think for this coming season, he just needs to prove he's worthy of an extension to keep on the Raptors development train. It shouldn't be too tough and he's probably already done that, as long as he doesn't come in either too cocky (TD2, post bubble) or regress in some way (Boucher, before the turnaround). I just hope it's fair and favorable, like 4/15 or something.

The speed of the NBA game is not only physical, but mental. In the G-League, his length makes it really difficult for people to stop him once he's in motion. NBA regulars are not only more physically capable, but also a lot better at anticipation and forcing you to your 2nd/3rd move. This is where footwork and mental preparation become hugely underrated in terms of setting up defenders.

[Tripod]

He can bring something we really lack....speed. He has the ability to get by his man. We just stand around too much on offense at times. Look at Boucher when he comes in and starts cutting to the basket and the easy baskets it can create. Wish our starters would do that more often too.

But if he can develop a shot, he can start helping the Raps in so many ways. Let's hope!

[PD28]

I'd like to see more VV/Dalano bench lineups next year. VV has the ability to play off ball and he can function as a secondary ballhandler so Dalano can see more of the ball. The Dalano/VV combo played 182 minutes last year and they had a +7.3 net rating. If you put Dalano with Scottie/Siakam, Dalano will play a lot more off ball in the halfcourt, which is a weakness for him.

Dalano had solid games early in the season and didn't really see minutes down the stretch of the season. I loved how he hounded and irritated Beal. If he can become a decent C&S option, I can totally see him work with Scottie - honestly I prefer Dalano guarding PG's over Barnes.

[OakleyDokely]

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