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[Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy

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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

Post#921 » by WuTang_CMB » Thu Jun 9, 2022 9:52 pm

Madhouse wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:OG put up 18 and 5 per game on 55%TS with only a 20% usage rate

Brandon Ingram for context put up 23 per game on 55% TS with a 29% usage rate.

If OG had a higher usage rate even at 25% he would average the same if not more. Both are the same age.

He is incredibly under-valued in the market place which is why every team is seeing if they can grab him knowing Toronto has a glut of similar guys.



I mean similar is relative.


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just needs more usage and he'd be at that level
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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

Post#922 » by NotMyKawhi » Thu Jun 9, 2022 9:56 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:
Madhouse wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:OG put up 18 and 5 per game on 55%TS with only a 20% usage rate

Brandon Ingram for context put up 23 per game on 55% TS with a 29% usage rate.

If OG had a higher usage rate even at 25% he would average the same if not more. Both are the same age.

He is incredibly under-valued in the market place which is why every team is seeing if they can grab him knowing Toronto has a glut of similar guys.



I mean similar is relative.


?
just needs more usage and he'd be at that level


he does not possess half the offensive skill set Brandon Ingram has.

He could never be that guy. The reason he doesn't take as many shots is 'cause he's not that good at creating.
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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

Post#923 » by WuTang_CMB » Thu Jun 9, 2022 10:25 pm

NotMyKawhi wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
Madhouse wrote:

I mean similar is relative.


?
just needs more usage and he'd be at that level


he does not possess half the offensive skill set Brandon Ingram has.

He could never be that guy. The reason he doesn't take as many shots is 'cause he's not that good at creating.


No I'm just pointing to straight stats. BI has an advanced game but he's #1 option on that team. OG is #3-#4 ... I'm pointing out if he had higher usage he'd produce 22 pg +

He is under-valued especially when we bring his defensive metrics
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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

Post#924 » by Snowwy » Fri Jun 10, 2022 11:25 am

WuTang_OG wrote:
NotMyKawhi wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
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just needs more usage and he'd be at that level


he does not possess half the offensive skill set Brandon Ingram has.

He could never be that guy. The reason he doesn't take as many shots is 'cause he's not that good at creating.


No I'm just pointing to straight stats. BI has an advanced game but he's #1 option on that team. OG is #3-#4 ... I'm pointing out if he had higher usage he'd produce 22 pg +

He is under-valued especially when we bring his defensive metrics

I don’t think increased usage typically means consistent efficiency. Typically increased usage means lower efficiency. Check out the first half of OG’s season. Higher usage, lower efficiency.
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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

Post#925 » by WuTang_CMB » Fri Jun 10, 2022 11:56 am

Snowwy wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
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he does not possess half the offensive skill set Brandon Ingram has.

He could never be that guy. The reason he doesn't take as many shots is 'cause he's not that good at creating.


No I'm just pointing to straight stats. BI has an advanced game but he's #1 option on that team. OG is #3-#4 ... I'm pointing out if he had higher usage he'd produce 22 pg +

He is under-valued especially when we bring his defensive metrics

I don’t think increased usage typically means consistent efficiency. Typically increased usage means lower efficiency. Check out the first half of OG’s season. Higher usage, lower efficiency.


For sure but just like when siakam was out he was putting up 23 a game on higher usage to my point
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Post#926 » by Madhouse » Fri Jun 10, 2022 12:30 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:
Madhouse wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:OG put up 18 and 5 per game on 55%TS with only a 20% usage rate

Brandon Ingram for context put up 23 per game on 55% TS with a 29% usage rate.

If OG had a higher usage rate even at 25% he would average the same if not more. Both are the same age.

He is incredibly under-valued in the market place which is why every team is seeing if they can grab him knowing Toronto has a glut of similar guys.



I mean similar is relative.


?
just needs more usage and he'd be at that level


Talking about the similarities between OG, Scottie and Pascal. I don't think they are all that similar actually.
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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

Post#927 » by WuTang_CMB » Fri Jun 10, 2022 12:57 pm

Madhouse wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
Madhouse wrote:

I mean similar is relative.


?
just needs more usage and he'd be at that level


Talking about the similarities between OG, Scottie and Pascal. I don't think they are all that similar actually.


Other teams are looking at those guys and saying Toronto has too many of them (even though we like it) so they are trying to pry one of them away
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Post#928 » by Madhouse » Fri Jun 10, 2022 1:06 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:
Madhouse wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
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just needs more usage and he'd be at that level


Talking about the similarities between OG, Scottie and Pascal. I don't think they are all that similar actually.


Other teams are looking at those guys and saying Toronto has too many of them (even though we like it) so they are trying to pry one of them away


That won't work. They all have different strengths and with 1 player especially still just scratching the surface of his potential, so they need to offer something big.
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Post#929 » by Snowwy » Fri Jun 10, 2022 1:23 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:
Snowwy wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
No I'm just pointing to straight stats. BI has an advanced game but he's #1 option on that team. OG is #3-#4 ... I'm pointing out if he had higher usage he'd produce 22 pg +

He is under-valued especially when we bring his defensive metrics

I don’t think increased usage typically means consistent efficiency. Typically increased usage means lower efficiency. Check out the first half of OG’s season. Higher usage, lower efficiency.


For sure but just like when siakam was out he was putting up 23 a game on higher usage to my point

I agree, but with much less efficiency.
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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

Post#930 » by WuTang_CMB » Fri Jun 10, 2022 1:37 pm

Madhouse wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
Madhouse wrote:
Talking about the similarities between OG, Scottie and Pascal. I don't think they are all that similar actually.


Other teams are looking at those guys and saying Toronto has too many of them (even though we like it) so they are trying to pry one of them away


That won't work. They all have different strengths and with 1 player especially still just scratching the surface of his potential, so they need to offer something big.


ya for other teams. They just trying to create a crack and they started it with Fischer's article. OG is staying.
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Post#931 » by GreatWhiteStiff » Fri Jun 10, 2022 2:13 pm

I like how every Bleacher Report article is a nefarious plot to bring the powerhouse Toronto Raptors to their knees, or to gain some sort of competitive advantage or something.

I'm not even saying it's not true, hell it'd be funnier if it were true. I'd like to imagine Dolan from the Knicks as the mastermind behinid this article.
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Post#932 » by Bruin » Fri Jun 10, 2022 3:20 pm

Sam Amico saying the Nuggets want OG too. They don’t really have any intriguing assets tho
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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

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Post#934 » by mademan » Fri Jun 10, 2022 3:26 pm

Im just saying, if Dame is gonna Lebron the Blazers and force their hand to overpay, i cant really say no. 7/Keon/Mil 1st/future POR 1st and i'd probably do it. Not interested in a fair trade at all tho
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Post#935 » by wayoftheroad » Fri Jun 10, 2022 3:27 pm

Is there a 3 way trade that would make sense involving OG, Ayton, and Nurkic?
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Post#936 » by TravisScott55 » Fri Jun 10, 2022 3:29 pm

OG for #7, Nasir Little, Keon Johnson and Josh Hart.
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Post#937 » by vulture » Fri Jun 10, 2022 3:35 pm

mademan wrote:Im just saying, if Dame is gonna Lebron the Blazers and force their hand to overpay, i cant really say no. 7/Keon/Mil 1st/future POR 1st and i'd probably do it. Not interested in a fair trade at all tho


I wonder if the raptors would even be good with an overpay?
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Post#938 » by Bruin » Fri Jun 10, 2022 3:41 pm

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Post#939 » by mademan » Fri Jun 10, 2022 3:44 pm

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mademan wrote:Im just saying, if Dame is gonna Lebron the Blazers and force their hand to overpay, i cant really say no. 7/Keon/Mil 1st/future POR 1st and i'd probably do it. Not interested in a fair trade at all tho


I wonder if the raptors would even be good with an overpay?


The rest of the part is the overpay, but it will depend on the 7th pick..who's there and how much they like them. Youre looking a Daniels/Matharuin/Sharpe/Griffin/Murray in that grouping. Raps interviewed Daniels/Mathurin...not sure who else.
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