2021-22 NBA Season Discussion

[jalengreen]

Oh and talk about Klay's defense for a guy coming off 2 major injuries. Couple more games like these and he might become an overrated defender

cant overstate how important his defense was. locked up JB down the stretch

[70sFan]

Curry with one of the best performances of his career, he was absolutely unbelievable.

Can we finally start criticizing Tatum for his play? He's been horrible in the finals so far for his standards. He had strong moments with his passing and he's still a good defender, but man his scoring decisions are bad...

[WestGOAT]

Curry with one of the best performances of his career, he was absolutely unbelievable.

Can we finally start criticizing Tatum for his play? He's been horrible in the finals so far for his standards. He had strong moments with his passing and he's still a good defender, but man his scoring decisions are bad...

Tatum killed the momentum of the Celtics in the 4th by channeling his inner Kobe:



I don't understand why he settles for these types of shots, while it's obvious he is much more effective as an off-ball shooter.. he's been crazy hot from the 3.

Also, as much as I appreciate Curry, it really drives me crazy how careless he can get with his passes, especially in the 4th:



Literally just throws the ball away with some crazy attempt over the back pass attempt, which lead to a Brown 3-point play.

[70sFan]

Curry has 27th game with 43+ points in NBA history.

All 43 or more points in NBA finals history:

1. 1962 Game 5: Baylor with 61 on 60.6 TS%
2. 1967 Game 3: Barry with 55 on 48.8 TS%
3. 1993 Game 4: Jordan with 55 on 61.2 TS%
4. 1969 Game 1: West with 53 on 56.7 TS%
5. 2018 Game 1: James with 51 on 69.2 TS%
6. 1958 Game 7: Pettit with 50 on 61.6 TS%
7. 2021 Game 6: Giannis with 50 on 74.9 TS%
8. 2001 Game 1: Iverson with 48 on 53.4 TS%
9. 1992 Game 5: Jordan with 46 on 73.3 TS%
10. 1965 Game 2: West with 45 on 52.0 TS%
11. 1970 Game 6: Wilt with 45 on 67.9 TS%
12. 1966 Game 4: West with 45 on 63.6 TS%
13. 1993 Game 6: Jordan with 45 on 54.1 TS%
14. 1967 Game 6: Barry with 44 on 50.3 TS%
15. 1993 Game 3: Jordan with 44 on 48.2 TS%
16. 2001 Game 1: Shaq with 44 on 58.4 TS%
17. 2015 Game 1: James with 44 on 51.9 TS%
18. 1963 Game 5: Baylor with 43 on 51.8 TS%
19. 1965 Game 3: West with 43 on 63.6 TS%
20. 1967 Game 4: Barry with 43 on 46.5 TS%
21. 1969 Game 2: Havlicek with 43 on 64.8 TS%
22. 1988 Game 6: Thomas with 43 on 61.3 TS%
23. 2000 Game 1: Shaq with 43 on 63.9 TS%
24. 2006 Game 5: Wade with 43 on 55.1 TS%
25. 2012 Game 4: Westbrook with 43 on 64.5 TS%
26. 2018 Game 3: Durant with 43 on 82.4 TS%
27. 2022 Game 4: Curry with 43 on 71.8 TS%

Most by player:

4: West, Jordan
3: Barry
2: Baylor, Shaq, James
1: Pettit, Havlicek, Wilt, Thomas, Iverson, Wade, Westbrook, Durant, Giannis, Curry

[70sFan]

Tatum killed the momentum of the Celtics in the 4th by channeling his inner Kobe:



I don't understand why he settles for these types of shots, while it's obvious he is much more effective as an off-ball shooter.. he's been crazy hot from the 3.

Yeah, I can't get it either. He started the game well, but then kept taking those contested jumpshots and fadeaways for no reason... I really think Tatum's offense is massively overrated, because unlike Kobe he can't take and make these shots consistently.

Also, as much as I appreciate Curry, it really drives me crazy how careless he can get with his passes, especially in the 4th:



Literally just throws the ball away with some crazy attempt over the back pass attempt, which lead to a Brown 3-point play.

Yeah, I had this play in mind until the very end of the game. Curry has these ridiculous passes almost every game and it's not like they are high risk/high reward plays.

[70sFan]

By the way, Klay has been terrible on offense outside of game 3, but at least the Warriors got a lot from him on defensive end this game. He did a very nice job even as a help defender in the paint on a few plays, which usually isn't his strength.

[TheGOATRises007]

How stars have fared vs the Celtics in the playoffs(net rating remarks are estimated guesses)

KD averaged 26-6-6 on 53% TS with some very poor defense - likely very poor net rating

Kyrie averaged 21-5-5 on 58% TS with some very poor defense - likely neutral/poor net rating

Giannis averaged 33-15-7 on 52% with neutral/good defense - likely very good net rating

Jrue(don't consider him a star - but wanted to add the opposing teams' 2 best players per series) averaged 21-6-6 on 45% TS with neutral/good defense - likely decent net rating

Butler averaged 25-7-3 on 58% TS with good defense - likely great net rating

Bam averaged 15-8-3 on 60% with good defense - likely good net rating

Klay(nowhere near the Warriors' 2nd best player - but wanted to use him because of his shooting exploits) averaging 17-2-2 on 49% TS with some uninspiring defense overall - likely poor/decent net rating

And then Curry averaging 34-6-3 on 66% TS with with neutral/below average defense + an insane net rating.

Curry shooting 49% from 3 on 12.75 attempts per game. 86% from the line. This is probably the greatest shooting exhibition in NBA finals history.

[TheGOATRises007]

Curry has 27th game with 43+ points in NBA history.

All 43 or more points in NBA finals history:

1. 1962 Game 5: Baylor with 61 on 60.6 TS%
2. 1967 Game 3: Barry with 55 on 48.8 TS%
3. 1993 Game 4: Jordan with 55 on 61.2 TS%
4. 1969 Game 1: West with 53 on 56.7 TS%
5. 2018 Game 1: James with 51 on 69.2 TS%
6. 1958 Game 7: Pettit with 50 on 61.6 TS%
7. 2021 Game 6: Giannis with 50 on 74.9 TS%
8. 2001 Game 1: Iverson with 48 on 53.4 TS%
9. 1992 Game 5: Jordan with 46 on 73.3 TS%
10. 1965 Game 2: West with 45 on 52.0 TS%
11. 1970 Game 6: Wilt with 45 on 67.9 TS%
12. 1966 Game 4: West with 45 on 63.6 TS%
13. 1993 Game 6: Jordan with 45 on 54.1 TS%
14. 1967 Game 6: Barry with 44 on 50.3 TS%
15. 1993 Game 3: Jordan with 44 on 48.2 TS%
16. 2001 Game 1: Shaq with 44 on 58.4 TS%
17. 2015 Game 1: James with 44 on 51.9 TS%
18. 1963 Game 5: Baylor with 43 on 51.8 TS%
19. 1965 Game 3: West with 43 on 63.6 TS%
20. 1967 Game 4: Barry with 43 on 46.5 TS%
21. 1969 Game 2: Havlicek with 43 on 64.8 TS%
22. 1988 Game 6: Thomas with 43 on 61.3 TS%
23. 2000 Game 1: Shaq with 43 on 63.9 TS%
24. 2006 Game 5: Wade with 43 on 55.1 TS%
25. 2012 Game 4: Westbrook with 43 on 64.5 TS%
26. 2018 Game 3: Durant with 43 on 82.4 TS%
27. 2022 Game 4: Curry with 43 on 71.8 TS%

Most by player:

4: West, Jordan
3: Barry
2: Baylor, Shaq, James
1: Pettit, Havlicek, Wilt, Thomas, Iverson, Wade, Westbrook, Durant, Giannis, Curry

You forgot Curry's 47 vs the Raptors.

[Gooner]

By the way, Klay has been terrible on offense outside of game 3, but at least the Warriors got a lot from him on defensive end this game. He did a very nice job even as a help defender in the paint on a few plays, which usually isn't his strength.

I told you Klay can still lock down when needed. He wasn't terrible tonight offensively either, 4 out of 10 from 3, and some clutch shots.

[Gooner]

Curry with one of the best performances of his career, he was absolutely unbelievable.

Can we finally start criticizing Tatum for his play? He's been horrible in the finals so far for his standards. He had strong moments with his passing and he's still a good defender, but man his scoring decisions are bad...

You have to give credit to Warriors defense. They are doing a number on Tatum. There is nothing easy for him.

[Statlanta]

OT: I hate Brian Windhorst for shoe-horning LeBron James into every Lowe Podcast like he matters as a topic.

It's to the level of the 90's guys do for Jordan at this point.

[70sFan]

By the way, Klay has been terrible on offense outside of game 3, but at least the Warriors got a lot from him on defensive end this game. He did a very nice job even as a help defender in the paint on a few plays, which usually isn't his strength.

I told you Klay can still lock down when needed. He wasn't terrible tonight offensively either, 4 out of 10 from 3, and some clutch shots.

Some clutch shots means one three in the 4th? Klay wasn't good offensively tonight and overall it wasn't a good performance from him. He had some big plays on defense, but in the end it was the moment that mattered and Warriors needed heroic Curry performance to win this game, mostly because Klay struggled throughout the game.

[Gooner]

By the way, Klay has been terrible on offense outside of game 3, but at least the Warriors got a lot from him on defensive end this game. He did a very nice job even as a help defender in the paint on a few plays, which usually isn't his strength.

I told you Klay can still lock down when needed. He wasn't terrible tonight offensively either, 4 out of 10 from 3, and some clutch shots.

Some clutch shots means one three in the 4th? Klay wasn't good offensively tonight and overall it wasn't a good performance from him. He had some big plays on defense, but in the end it was the moment that mattered and Warriors needed heroic Curry performance to win this game, mostly because Klay struggled throughout the game.

He made another 3 earlier and one turnaround jumper around the 6 minute mark. Those hsots kept them in touch and then he made a go ahead 3 for 95-94. 4 3's is a meaningful contribution offensively. If you want to see who is struggling, look at Draymond Green who can't make a shot, not even around the rim.

[70sFan]

I told you Klay can still lock down when needed. He wasn't terrible tonight offensively either, 4 out of 10 from 3, and some clutch shots.

Some clutch shots means one three in the 4th? Klay wasn't good offensively tonight and overall it wasn't a good performance from him. He had some big plays on defense, but in the end it was the moment that mattered and Warriors needed heroic Curry performance to win this game, mostly because Klay struggled throughout the game.

He made another 3 earlier and one turnaround jumper around the 6 minute mark. Those hsots kept them in touch and then he made a go ahead 3 for 95-94. 4 3's is a meaningful contribution offensively. If you want to see who is struggling, look at Draymond Green who can't make a shot, not even around the rim.

I'd say both struggle a lot this series, so it's a moot point.

[Bergmaniac]

Curry is showing again he's easily the best offensive player in the league, he's just ridiculous. He is so great that the Warriors offense is still elite with the current version of Draymond on the court despite Draymond being an atrocious offensive player who isn't guarded at all and can't score anything except uncontested layups.

Celtics scored 3 total points in the last 5 minutes, it felt like the moment got to them. Also, all of their shots in the last 4:30 minutes were threes. 2 Smart threes on a crucial offensive possession late is not something you want. Tatum needs to be better. And they continue to struggle offensively when Timelord is on the bench.

[70sFan]

Curry is showing again he's easily the best offensive player in the league, he's just ridiculous. He is so great that the Warriors offense is still elite with the current version of Draymond on the court despite Draymond being an atrocious offensive player who isn't guarded at all and can't score anything except uncontested layups.

Celtics scored 3 total points in the last 5 minutes, it felt like the moment got to them. Also, all of their shots in the last 4:30 minutes were threes. 2 Smart threes on a crucial offensive possession late is not something you want. Tatum needs to be better. And they continue to struggle offensively when Timelord is on the bench.

How is he showing that he's clearly better on offense than Jokic?

[Dutchball97]

Curry is showing again he's easily the best offensive player in the league, he's just ridiculous. He is so great that the Warriors offense is still elite with the current version of Draymond on the court despite Draymond being an atrocious offensive player who isn't guarded at all and can't score anything except uncontested layups.

Celtics scored 3 total points in the last 5 minutes, it felt like the moment got to them. Also, all of their shots in the last 4:30 minutes were threes. 2 Smart threes on a crucial offensive possession late is not something you want. Tatum needs to be better. And they continue to struggle offensively when Timelord is on the bench.

How is he showing that he's clearly better on offense than Jokic?

Curry's gravity is so strong that he was even able to pull in good teammates. If Jokic had gravity half as strong he wouldn't have to play with a team of bums. Clearly.

[Colbinii]

Curry is showing again he's easily the best offensive player in the league, he's just ridiculous. He is so great that the Warriors offense is still elite with the current version of Draymond on the court despite Draymond being an atrocious offensive player who isn't guarded at all and can't score anything except uncontested layups.

Celtics scored 3 total points in the last 5 minutes, it felt like the moment got to them. Also, all of their shots in the last 4:30 minutes were threes. 2 Smart threes on a crucial offensive possession late is not something you want. Tatum needs to be better. And they continue to struggle offensively when Timelord is on the bench.

Actually with Draymond on the court the Warriors have struggled offensively in the finals.

[Bergmaniac]

Curry is showing again he's easily the best offensive player in the league, he's just ridiculous. He is so great that the Warriors offense is still elite with the current version of Draymond on the court despite Draymond being an atrocious offensive player who isn't guarded at all and can't score anything except uncontested layups.

Celtics scored 3 total points in the last 5 minutes, it felt like the moment got to them. Also, all of their shots in the last 4:30 minutes were threes. 2 Smart threes on a crucial offensive possession late is not something you want. Tatum needs to be better. And they continue to struggle offensively when Timelord is on the bench.

Actually with Draymond on the court the Warriors have struggled offensively in the finals.

In the minutes Curry and Draymond have played together in the series the Warriors have an offensive rating of 113.5 which is really good against Boston's defence.

[parsnips33]

By the way, Klay has been terrible on offense outside of game 3, but at least the Warriors got a lot from him on defensive end this game. He did a very nice job even as a help defender in the paint on a few plays, which usually isn't his strength.

I told you Klay can still lock down when needed. He wasn't terrible tonight offensively either, 4 out of 10 from 3, and some clutch shots.

Some clutch shots means one three in the 4th? Klay wasn't good offensively tonight and overall it wasn't a good performance from him. He had some big plays on defense, but in the end it was the moment that mattered and Warriors needed heroic Curry performance to win this game, mostly because Klay struggled throughout the game.

I think there was clear separation between his game 4 and games 1 & 2. He struggled last night, but I wouldn't call his offensive performance terrible