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Re: Roster moves in off-season. 

Post#1701 » by batterybro42 » Sun Jun 12, 2022 7:30 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Yea no chance we get LeBron but if we did and kept Jimmy and Bam we’d be the favorites for at least the next 3 seasons and very good vet role players would be flocking to play with us like Battier, Miller, Birdman, Allen, etc. we’re doing during the big 3 era



That has to be the goal in my opinion

Respect to Beal and Mitchell I’d be happy with either, but I feel LeBron is more impactful to our team and can be had at cheaper value than either Beal or Mitchell. I’m curious as to what people think stands in the way of us acquiring James as opposed to Beal or Mitchell. To me it would seem LeBron would be the most realistic of the three for us
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Re: Roster moves in off-season. 

Post#1702 » by Kobewade11 » Sun Jun 12, 2022 7:47 pm

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HeatingUp3 wrote:Why you guys think this LeBron thing is real? No way he coming back


Not as far fetched as you think and both sides have offered a publicly to reconcile. The Lakers aren’t in a position to contend. All it takes is LeBron to want out and ask for a trade. The Lakers can’t refuse LeBron because it would degrade the front office to potential superstars wanting to come to LA as LeBron did. He’s a top 3 player of all time, and not giving him a chance to compete with the roster around him is a big hit for LA’s management already, not being willing in moving him out with tangible value coming back towards the future to them is a real bad look.

This conditions are perfect for Riley should he want to do this


If LeBron wanted out it would already be known. I get this is the part of the offseason where fans want to throw anything at the wall to see what sticks but this is nonsense.
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Post#1703 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Jun 12, 2022 7:55 pm

I love how we killed our bodies for 3 straight rounds of just knock down drag out ball every other day for there to be extended time off in between every single finals game. Eliminate the play in tourney, that s*** is dumb
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Post#1704 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Jun 12, 2022 7:57 pm

Also for more context on the LeBron clip, that was during the conference finals and they asked what remaining team he would have the most impact on (so 4 teams). I personally think the right answer was the Mavs
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Post#1705 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Jun 12, 2022 8:11 pm

Read on Twitter


SGA is actually a guy I would love to have, idk if the Thunder would trade him though
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Post#1706 » by Flash4thewin » Sun Jun 12, 2022 8:13 pm

One thing that hasn't been mentioned or inferred here, is how the Rockets with Walls mega expiring contract have made no effort or interest in trading it. That shows they have no interest in taking back long term players, remember the owner lost a fortune in covid. This is relevant when it comes to an alleged trade with them. Their behavior shows they have no interest in a negative asset like Duncan. So we would need to find some third party that actually values Duncan with assets that would satisfy the Rockets.
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Post#1707 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sun Jun 12, 2022 8:29 pm

Flash4thewin wrote:One thing that hasn't been mentioned or inferred here, is how the Rockets with Walls mega expiring contract have made no effort or interest in trading it. That shows they have no interest in taking back long term players, remember the owner lost a fortune in covid. This is relevant when it comes to an alleged trade with them. Their behavior shows they have no interest in a negative asset like Duncan. So we would need to find some third party that actually values Duncan with assets that would satisfy the Rockets.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/christopherhelman/2021/10/11/how-clever-deals-made-houston-rockets-owner-tilman-fertitta-billions-richer-during-the-pandemic/?sh=226981553f29
This article on the Houston owner seems to counter that theory of Rockets owner struggling financially. They haven’t traded Wall yet because maybe it’s hard finding a team that wants to absorb all that money or a deal just hasn’t opened up yet. More then likely he gets bought out. Duncan’s 16 million dollar deal is nothing if they are compensated with the picks they want. They are also trading back equal salary to us. Maybe they trade Robinson to a third team who knows but a deal looks like it can be had wether they keep him or not. They would also be getting Yurtseven to go along with the picks we throw in. The offer we will give them will more then compensate them for taking on a few more years of Duncan’s salary.

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/267338/Rockets-Will-Only-Swap-John-Wall-For-Russell-Westbrook-With-Draft-Picks-Involved
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Post#1708 » by IceColdCubano » Sun Jun 12, 2022 8:40 pm

Wiltside wrote:We’re in win now mode. We’re all in. It’s the Jimmy timeline.

Let’s see what happens.

That means, we need to enforce our youngings to get better and our high paid ones already on the books to polish themselves a bit better. We need to do a better job a load management and we should be back in this next year.
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Post#1709 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Jun 12, 2022 8:43 pm

Wall isn’t being traded because his contract, even if expiring, is HUGE. I hope he gets bought out this summer so we can go ahead and snatch him up, might make us more willing to include Lowry in a big trade.
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Post#1710 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Jun 12, 2022 8:44 pm

I would have no problem sending the Mitchell package for SGA the more I think about it. He’s so damn good and only 23.
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Post#1711 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sun Jun 12, 2022 8:52 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Wall isn’t being traded because his contract, even if expiring, is HUGE. I hope he gets bought out this summer so we can go ahead and snatch him up, might make us more willing to include Lowry in a big trade.

I like the idea of Wall but I will continue to hold strong in my belief that it’s highly doubtful Lowry gets traded. He’s getting another year. The year after next when he enters his expiring year i can see us making a deal then if both parties agree to part ways. Could get traded then bought out and resigns with Toronto.
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Re: Roster moves in off-season. 

Post#1712 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sun Jun 12, 2022 8:54 pm

SGA is a baller and would love to get him but don’t see a reason for OKC to make that move. They are one team we do have a great trade working relationship with but with SGA locked up i don’t see the need for them to deal with Herro’s contract on the horizon.
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Post#1713 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Jun 12, 2022 9:01 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:SGA is a baller and would love to get him but don’t see a reason for OKC to make that move. They are one team we do have a great trade working relationship with but with SGA locked up i don’t see the need for them to deal with Herro’s contract on the horizon.


You could be right, I think I remember them being willing to trade him last offseason and we know they like to stockpile picks. Herro Duncan a 2nd chance at Yurt and picks may do it for them. Wouldn’t hurt to try at least.
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Post#1714 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Jun 12, 2022 9:03 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Wall isn’t being traded because his contract, even if expiring, is HUGE. I hope he gets bought out this summer so we can go ahead and snatch him up, might make us more willing to include Lowry in a big trade.

I like the idea of Wall but I will continue to hold strong in my belief that it’s highly doubtful Lowry gets traded. He’s getting another year. The year after next when he enters his expiring year i can see us making a deal then if both parties agree to part ways. Could get traded then bought out and resigns with Toronto.


Yea a Lowry trade is unlikely imo but we’ve seen far crazier things and if it makes the team better I don’t think Riley would hesitate.

Either way, I think the Wall to Miami post buyout stuff has serious legs. We need to make a trade and consolidate some roster spots for a higher level player anyways, a signing like this would make it even more necessary.
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Re: Roster moves in off-season. 

Post#1715 » by Jfh20 » Sun Jun 12, 2022 9:15 pm

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HeatingUp3 wrote:Why you guys think this LeBron thing is real? No way he coming back


Not as far fetched as you think and both sides have offered a publicly to reconcile. The Lakers aren’t in a position to contend. All it takes is LeBron to want out and ask for a trade. The Lakers can’t refuse LeBron because it would degrade the front office to potential superstars wanting to come to LA as LeBron did. He’s a top 3 player of all time, and not giving him a chance to compete with the roster around him is a big hit for LA’s management already, not being willing in moving him out with tangible value coming back towards the future to them is a real bad look.

This conditions are perfect for Riley should he want to do this


lmao... LAs management? lebron and Klutch Sports are the ones running things overthere.... they got AD from backdoor deals with Klutch/Pelinka pullin strings as lebrons request, than LBJ wanted WB and klutch/pelinka made it happen... how is this the lakers FO fault? they did what was asked of them... This should be "stay the hell away from LBJ" he is a problems whereever he goes. i get it though, heat fans want titles, we all do, but i still hope the lakers end up wanting picks in the deal and riley says no, and he goes elsewhere. Prime lebron = worth the trouble ... Current Lebron =not worth the trouble.
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Re: Roster moves in off-season. 

Post#1716 » by Flash4thewin » Sun Jun 12, 2022 10:21 pm

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batterybro42 wrote:
HeatingUp3 wrote:Why you guys think this LeBron thing is real? No way he coming back


Not as far fetched as you think and both sides have offered a publicly to reconcile. The Lakers aren’t in a position to contend. All it takes is LeBron to want out and ask for a trade. The Lakers can’t refuse LeBron because it would degrade the front office to potential superstars wanting to come to LA as LeBron did. He’s a top 3 player of all time, and not giving him a chance to compete with the roster around him is a big hit for LA’s management already, not being willing in moving him out with tangible value coming back towards the future to them is a real bad look.

This conditions are perfect for Riley should he want to do this


lmao... LAs management? lebron and Klutch Sports are the ones running things overthere.... they got AD from backdoor deals with Klutch/Pelinka pullin strings as lebrons request, than LBJ wanted WB and klutch/pelinka made it happen... how is this the lakers FO fault? they did what was asked of them... This should be "stay the hell away from LBJ" he is a problems whereever he goes. i get it though, heat fans want titles, we all do, but i still hope the lakers end up wanting picks in the deal and riley says no, and he goes elsewhere. Prime lebron = worth the trouble ... Current Lebron =not worth the trouble.


On one hand they got AD, on the other they got ripped off on the trade with all the unprotected picks.
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Post#1717 » by Beenie » Sun Jun 12, 2022 10:40 pm

It was rumored that OKC offered SGA to Detroit last year for the #1 pick so that they could draft Cade.

If true, the rationale, I suppose, would have been to reset their timeline, which would have been a sound move considering that they are ways off from playoff contention.

Also means that they are open to moving him.

Herro is no where near the prospect that Cade is, but I were to indulge the idea (the source is complete gutter trash btw) Herro is slightly younger than SGA so it buys them a little while longer, and they do covet draft picks, so a package of 2-3 future first rounders could pique their curiosity.
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Post#1718 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Jun 12, 2022 10:44 pm

Beenie wrote:It was rumored that OKC offered SGA to Detroit last year for the #1 pick so that they could draft Cade.

If true, the rationale, I suppose, would have been to reset their timeline, which would have been a sound move considering that they are ways off from playoff contention.

Also means that they are open to moving him.

Herro is no where near the prospect that Cade is, but I were to indulge the idea (the source is complete gutter trash btw) Herro is slightly younger than SGA so it buys them a little while longer, and they do covet draft picks, so a package of 2-3 future first rounders could pique their curiosity.


Cade was also the hometown star so that probably played a part too.

I’m open to Herro Duncan Yurt 3 1sts and 2 swaps for Mitchell, I’d do the same for SGA
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Post#1719 » by Beenie » Sun Jun 12, 2022 11:14 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Beenie wrote:It was rumored that OKC offered SGA to Detroit last year for the #1 pick so that they could draft Cade.

If true, the rationale, I suppose, would have been to reset their timeline, which would have been a sound move considering that they are ways off from playoff contention.

Also means that they are open to moving him.

Herro is no where near the prospect that Cade is, but I were to indulge the idea (the source is complete gutter trash btw) Herro is slightly younger than SGA so it buys them a little while longer, and they do covet draft picks, so a package of 2-3 future first rounders could pique their curiosity.


Cade was also the hometown star so that probably played a part too.

I’m open to Herro Duncan Yurt 3 1sts and 2 swaps for Mitchell, I’d do the same for SGA


I could probably be talked into this deal.

Have no idea if it would work cap wise.
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Re: Roster moves in off-season. 

Post#1720 » by twix2500 » Sun Jun 12, 2022 11:44 pm

John Wall in Miami is a highly like when his contract expired or bought out.

Siakam, KCP and Wall guys I would watchout for

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