2022 NBA DRAFT

[Apz]

Our needs this off-season are
1. Starting 5
2. Backup Wing
3. Backup 5

Unless we’re moving up to get Mark Williams any big we take at 26 is a backup or a project. So we really have freedom to take the best player available with the exception of one of the small PGs.

We can’t say that taking a wing will fail because Green hasn’t worked out yet. This is a brand new front office.

If we keep 26 I like Dalen Terry/ Jake Laravia / Wendell Moore/ Jaylin Williams. I think all 4 of those guys come in next season and instantly contribute 15 minutes a night and can play in the playoffs.

Think it was moore, when i heard them talk about him on some pod it just screamed green for me. Athletic wing thats good defensively that ONLY need to get his 3p shot working to bd a rotation player....

While i rather take a guy like that then kessler, i think its the wrong way to go if u looking for rotation players for us. 1st priority need to be a 3p shot. If thats not working, the player is useless. Someone with a 3p shot and decent footspeed u can probably teach defense, but even if not, u can use a good shooter in rs like duncan robinsson on whatever pay a 26th pick get for 4 years

[BeiBeau]

Our needs this off-season are
1. Starting 5
2. Backup Wing
3. Backup 5

Unless we’re moving up to get Mark Williams any big we take at 26 is a backup or a project. So we really have freedom to take the best player available with the exception of one of the small PGs.

We can’t say that taking a wing will fail because Green hasn’t worked out yet. This is a brand new front office.

If we keep 26 I like Dalen Terry/ Jake Laravia / Wendell Moore/ Jaylin Williams. I think all 4 of those guys come in next season and instantly contribute 15 minutes a night and can play in the playoffs.

Think it was moore, when i heard them talk about him on some pod it just screamed green for me. Athletic wing thats good defensively that ONLY need to get his 3p shot working to bd a rotation player....

While i rather take a guy like that then kessler, i think its the wrong way to go if u looking for rotation players for us. 1st priority need to be a 3p shot. If thats not working, the player is useless. Someone with a 3p shot and decent footspeed u can probably teach defense, but even if not, u can use a good shooter in rs like duncan robinsson on whatever pay a 26th pick get for 4 years

Yeah the ringer has Josh Green as a pro comparison for Wendell Moore and that's probably where a lot of that is coming from. Wendell Moore is a slight bit bigger and less athletic then Green but I am very confident that Wendell Moore is a significantly better player then Green. He has a longer wing span and good size and foot speed that will let him guard 1-3 maybe even smaller 4s. He shot 41 percent from 3 last year where in Green's year at Arizona he shot 36% which is also what he shot this year. Moore is also a much better ball handler, driver, and slasher.

[Apz]

Our needs this off-season are
1. Starting 5
2. Backup Wing
3. Backup 5

Unless we’re moving up to get Mark Williams any big we take at 26 is a backup or a project. So we really have freedom to take the best player available with the exception of one of the small PGs.

We can’t say that taking a wing will fail because Green hasn’t worked out yet. This is a brand new front office.

If we keep 26 I like Dalen Terry/ Jake Laravia / Wendell Moore/ Jaylin Williams. I think all 4 of those guys come in next season and instantly contribute 15 minutes a night and can play in the playoffs.

Think it was moore, when i heard them talk about him on some pod it just screamed green for me. Athletic wing thats good defensively that ONLY need to get his 3p shot working to bd a rotation player....

While i rather take a guy like that then kessler, i think its the wrong way to go if u looking for rotation players for us. 1st priority need to be a 3p shot. If thats not working, the player is useless. Someone with a 3p shot and decent footspeed u can probably teach defense, but even if not, u can use a good shooter in rs like duncan robinsson on whatever pay a 26th pick get for 4 years

Yeah the ringer has Josh Green as a pro comparison for Wendell Moore and that's probably where a lot of that is coming from. Wendell Moore is a slight bit bigger and less athletic then Green but I am very confident that Wendell Moore is a significantly better player then Green. He has a longer wing span and good size and foot speed that will let him guard 1-3 maybe even smaller 4s. He shot 41 percent from 3 last year where in Green's year at Arizona he shot 36% which is also what he shot this year. Moore is also a much better ball handler, driver, and slasher.

Not watched the ringer for awhile. Not sure what it was, maybe locked on mavs? They just listed pros and cons, and i were like it sounds exactly as green

[Teffer10]

Think it was moore, when i heard them talk about him on some pod it just screamed green for me. Athletic wing thats good defensively that ONLY need to get his 3p shot working to bd a rotation player....

While i rather take a guy like that then kessler, i think its the wrong way to go if u looking for rotation players for us. 1st priority need to be a 3p shot. If thats not working, the player is useless. Someone with a 3p shot and decent footspeed u can probably teach defense, but even if not, u can use a good shooter in rs like duncan robinsson on whatever pay a 26th pick get for 4 years

Yeah the ringer has Josh Green as a pro comparison for Wendell Moore and that's probably where a lot of that is coming from. Wendell Moore is a slight bit bigger and less athletic then Green but I am very confident that Wendell Moore is a significantly better player then Green. He has a longer wing span and good size and foot speed that will let him guard 1-3 maybe even smaller 4s. He shot 41 percent from 3 last year where in Green's year at Arizona he shot 36% which is also what he shot this year. Moore is also a much better ball handler, driver, and slasher.

Not watched the ringer for awhile. Not sure what it was, maybe locked on mavs? They just listed pros and cons, and i were like it sounds exactly as green

I've seen a few mock drafts having us take Kendall Brown and that guy gives me vibes of Josh Green.
Freakishly athletic but can't shoot.

There are 2 names I've mentioned on a few Mavs boards that I don't want to hear when we pick....Walker Kessler and Kendall Brown.
Sounds like Moore could become the 3rd.

[Apz]

Yeah the ringer has Josh Green as a pro comparison for Wendell Moore and that's probably where a lot of that is coming from. Wendell Moore is a slight bit bigger and less athletic then Green but I am very confident that Wendell Moore is a significantly better player then Green. He has a longer wing span and good size and foot speed that will let him guard 1-3 maybe even smaller 4s. He shot 41 percent from 3 last year where in Green's year at Arizona he shot 36% which is also what he shot this year. Moore is also a much better ball handler, driver, and slasher.

Not watched the ringer for awhile. Not sure what it was, maybe locked on mavs? They just listed pros and cons, and i were like it sounds exactly as green

I've seen a few mock drafts having us take Kendall Brown and that guy gives me vibes of Josh Green.
Freakishly athletic but can't shoot.

There are 2 names I've mentioned on a few Mavs boards that I don't want to hear when we pick....Walker Kessler and Kendall Brown.
Sounds like Moore could become the 3rd.

But its pick 26, even at 15 its a crapshoot if u get a good prospect or not. At 26 its even more. But I want a position that got a chance to actually get rotation minutes, so kinda have to be a big wing 4 or even 5. I think 5 id just so hard to get down there, the bigger the player the bigger the flaws, specially when u get down there. Im not 100% sold on anyone atm tbh

[Teffer10]

Not watched the ringer for awhile. Not sure what it was, maybe locked on mavs? They just listed pros and cons, and i were like it sounds exactly as green

I've seen a few mock drafts having us take Kendall Brown and that guy gives me vibes of Josh Green.
Freakishly athletic but can't shoot.

There are 2 names I've mentioned on a few Mavs boards that I don't want to hear when we pick....Walker Kessler and Kendall Brown.
Sounds like Moore could become the 3rd.

But its pick 26, even at 15 its a crapshoot if u get a good prospect or not. At 26 its even more. But I want a position that got a chance to actually get rotation minutes, so kinda have to be a big wing 4 or even 5. I think 5 id just so hard to get down there, the bigger the player the bigger the flaws, specially when u get down there. Im not 100% sold on anyone atm tbh

Agree, and that is why I'm beginning to think we will trade the pick.
At 26, it is more likely we'll end up with another Josh Green caliber if we pick a wing, or Moses Brown if we pick one of the centers that will be available.
I'd almost rather trade back into the 2nd round if we're looking for prospects. I don't see any NBA ready players in the range where we pick, and we are definitely in win-now mode, so if we can't move the pick in a package for starter quality player, then I say we should attempt to move back and maybe offer OKC #26 for #30 and #34, or offer Orlando #26 for #32 and #35. Then we could draft a wing and a center to develop.

[BeiBeau]

Yeah the ringer has Josh Green as a pro comparison for Wendell Moore and that's probably where a lot of that is coming from. Wendell Moore is a slight bit bigger and less athletic then Green but I am very confident that Wendell Moore is a significantly better player then Green. He has a longer wing span and good size and foot speed that will let him guard 1-3 maybe even smaller 4s. He shot 41 percent from 3 last year where in Green's year at Arizona he shot 36% which is also what he shot this year. Moore is also a much better ball handler, driver, and slasher.

Not watched the ringer for awhile. Not sure what it was, maybe locked on mavs? They just listed pros and cons, and i were like it sounds exactly as green

I've seen a few mock drafts having us take Kendall Brown and that guy gives me vibes of Josh Green.
Freakishly athletic but can't shoot.

There are 2 names I've mentioned on a few Mavs boards that I don't want to hear when we pick....Walker Kessler and Kendall Brown.
Sounds like Moore could become the 3rd.

1. I think we’ve given up on Green to early. I don’t blame him for his rookie year. The only rookie to ever actually do well under Carlisle is Luka. The kid is only 21 and has show flashes. They just need to be more consistent. He went from 16% from 3 to 36%. It’s not like he stagnated.

2. Just because a player reminds you of another player isn’t a knock on that prospect. I also don’t Walker Kessler, but it’s not because I think he’s the next Jeff Withey. It’s because I’ve watched the tapes and he’s a low foot speed, low BBIQ, block hunter. If Kessler comes in a plays closer to Jakob Poetl then that’s on me for not believing in him.

Yeah Wendell Moore could come in and play as like Josh Green is now. But he could also come in and we could find out that because of his polished off ball game and maturity that he’s much closer to Desmond Bane.

3. There is a guy maybe even 2 on the draft board that the Mavs could take that would be huge towards becoming champions. Just to name a few names
2016- Siakam 27th, Dejounte Murray 29th
2017- Kuzma 27th, Josh Hart 29th
2018- Robert Williams 27th, Brunson 33rd, Mitchell Robinson 36, Gary Trent Jr 37
2019- Jordan Poole 28th, Keldon Johnson 29th, Daniel Gafford 38th
2020- Desmond Bane 30th
2021- Herb Jones 35th

At the very least there are guys who could be major pieces in a trade to upgrade our roster and at best we could find Luka’s number 2 or 3. Yeah we could miss at 26 but we keep swinging.

[Apz]

Not watched the ringer for awhile. Not sure what it was, maybe locked on mavs? They just listed pros and cons, and i were like it sounds exactly as green

I've seen a few mock drafts having us take Kendall Brown and that guy gives me vibes of Josh Green.
Freakishly athletic but can't shoot.

There are 2 names I've mentioned on a few Mavs boards that I don't want to hear when we pick....Walker Kessler and Kendall Brown.
Sounds like Moore could become the 3rd.

1. I think we’ve given up on Green to early. I don’t blame him for his rookie year. The only rookie to ever actually do well under Carlisle is Luka. The kid is only 21 and has show flashes. They just need to be more consistent. He went from 16% from 3 to 36%. It’s not like he stagnated.

2. Just because a player reminds you of another player isn’t a knock on that prospect. I also don’t Walker Kessler, but it’s not because I think he’s the next Jeff Withey. It’s because I’ve watched the tapes and he’s a low foot speed, low BBIQ, block hunter. If Kessler comes in a plays closer to Jakob Poetl then that’s on me for not believing in him.

Yeah Wendell Moore could come in and play as like Josh Green is now. But he could also come in and we could find out that because of his polished off ball game and maturity that he’s much closer to Desmond Bane.

3. There is a guy maybe even 2 on the draft board that the Mavs could take that would be huge towards becoming champions. Just to name a few names
2016- Siakam 27th, Dejounte Murray 29th
2017- Kuzma 27th, Josh Hart 29th
2018- Robert Williams 27th, Brunson 33rd, Mitchell Robinson 36, Gary Trent Jr 37
2019- Jordan Poole 28th, Keldon Johnson 29th, Daniel Gafford 38th
2020- Desmond Bane 30th
2021- Herb Jones 35th

At the very least there are guys who could be major pieces in a trade to upgrade our roster and at best we could find Luka’s number 2 or 3. Yeah we could miss at 26 but we keep swinging.

I actually havent given up on green. It feels like he just need to believe in his shot for it to work. But as soon as he misses once it feels like its over, like his confidence immediatly turns to **** and then next time he hesitates, like he almost try to do it in training style and focuses too much on each part of the shot.

I fo not know if he reminds me of a player, but when people talk about his positives and negatives it does sound like that.

Yes, there is usually 1, but fir every one there is a bunch that is out of the league. But im all for keeping 26 over trading it for some half washed 30 year old vet. Mavs need cost controlled guys. Thats why i thought it a bit strange that we gave away roby, and there is no talk about if omoruyi can be back after summer who were the big + during last fall when he got to play. Heard he got injured and thats why we terminated his 2way, but havent seen anything about after that. Havent even been able to find out what the injury were.

[Darren]

I don't think Moore is any better than Josh Green. With a skinny frame without outstanding speed, I don't think Moore would be any better than Green. Green at least defends pretty well.

[Darren]

I also doubt Moore is even better than Sterling Brown. Bulk does matter in defense. So is foot speed.

[BeiBeau]

I don't think Moore is any better than Josh Green. With a skinny frame without outstanding speed, I don't think Moore would be any better than Green. Green at least defends pretty well.

He is quite literally 8 pounds heavier then Green. And his lane agility test at the combine was .29 seconds slower then Green.

[SOUNDCHASER]

If you look at what we have on the team 1 through 3
Luka Brunson THJ Dinwiddie DFS Bullock that is talent enough for 1 through 3 so we need to build chemistry with this crew moving forward unless you can do a trade and get something back that is better.

Green is trade bait he has taken too long to develop and his odds of getting to the next level are fading. Someone may be willing to take him on considering how he started to perform better last season. If you want to see if he made improvement in the offseason and look at your options then well you can always trade him at the TDL. But then you need to showcase him and that won't happen with a win now team if he is not performing well early in the season so it is a gamble to keep him. If he is not playing because he did not improve his shot then he will be more difficult to trade later because his value is at a high point now after his contributions in the play offs. He may be enough to get a team to take a gamble on if we want to get someone to take Powell off our hands without giving up picks.

The win now nature of this team means we need to focus on developing solutions to the weak links / holes on the team and that is primarily at the 5 and 4/5.

A cheap vet that can start is preferable to a rookie unless that rookie brings something special as in size and speed combinations and or shooting skills. Gasol was a 2nd round pick if I recall so you can find centers in the 2nd. There are guys in the draft that will be ready to play faster based on how they produced in college.

https://www.tankathon.com/big_board

Among rookies these first 2 appeal to me the most

Kofi Cockburn top 5 vertical in the combine among centers and has some good mobility for a 300# banger that is basically a dunking threat and does not shoot 3's but could grow into a legit inside scoring force. Similar size to Jazz center Udoka but has a more chiseled frame and is more athletic at this point in his career plus with NOLA developing and Zion returning you really need this kind of big to help control the paint more. A return to this kind of play would be bound to happen sooner or later. The way the game is played now will not last https://www.tankathon.com/players/kofi-cockburn

Orlando Robinson A decent 3 point shot on offense plus has played in college for 3 years just like Kofi and shot 35% from 3 last year so more prepared to play straight out of college. Could function as a PF next to Kofi and form a twin tower option.
https://www.tankathon.com/players/orlando-robinson

Kessler will probably not fall to us so I won't even really address him here https://www.tankathon.com/players/walker-kessler

More Projects than ready to play sooner or even now.

Kamagate is kind of skinny so he is not a center in my book he is more of a PF that has no shot so a Powell type.
https://www.tankathon.com/players/ismael-kamagate

Koloko https://www.tankathon.com/players/christian-koloko

Diop further down the totem pole of prospects: https://www.tankathon.com/players/khalifa-diop

GOALS: Find vet and at least one if not 2 rookie bigs the vet will hold the fort till one establishes their game at the NBA level and maybe one or both rookies can play back up enough to accelerate their development and show promise enough to one day start. If you can get rid of Powell do so. If a way to get 2 veteran centers exists that is also an option if financial considerations will work to allow that. Whiteside, Robinson, Bamba, Hartenstein are FA's that may fit.

Bigs we have now Bertans Kleeber Boban Powell & Chriss Stuck with Bertans and we probably keep Kleeber but Powell needs to go and based on what we are able to add you keep, trade or cut others.

[Teffer10]

Not watched the ringer for awhile. Not sure what it was, maybe locked on mavs? They just listed pros and cons, and i were like it sounds exactly as green

I've seen a few mock drafts having us take Kendall Brown and that guy gives me vibes of Josh Green.
Freakishly athletic but can't shoot.

There are 2 names I've mentioned on a few Mavs boards that I don't want to hear when we pick....Walker Kessler and Kendall Brown.
Sounds like Moore could become the 3rd.

1. I think we’ve given up on Green to early. I don’t blame him for his rookie year. The only rookie to ever actually do well under Carlisle is Luka. The kid is only 21 and has show flashes. They just need to be more consistent. He went from 16% from 3 to 36%. It’s not like he stagnated.

2. Just because a player reminds you of another player isn’t a knock on that prospect. I also don’t Walker Kessler, but it’s not because I think he’s the next Jeff Withey. It’s because I’ve watched the tapes and he’s a low foot speed, low BBIQ, block hunter. If Kessler comes in a plays closer to Jakob Poetl then that’s on me for not believing in him.

Yeah Wendell Moore could come in and play as like Josh Green is now. But he could also come in and we could find out that because of his polished off ball game and maturity that he’s much closer to Desmond Bane.

3. There is a guy maybe even 2 on the draft board that the Mavs could take that would be huge towards becoming champions. Just to name a few names
2016- Siakam 27th, Dejounte Murray 29th
2017- Kuzma 27th, Josh Hart 29th
2018- Robert Williams 27th, Brunson 33rd, Mitchell Robinson 36, Gary Trent Jr 37
2019- Jordan Poole 28th, Keldon Johnson 29th, Daniel Gafford 38th
2020- Desmond Bane 30th
2021- Herb Jones 35th

At the very least there are guys who could be major pieces in a trade to upgrade our roster and at best we could find Luka’s number 2 or 3. Yeah we could miss at 26 but we keep swinging.

I can't say I've totally given up on Green and I don't dislike him as a player.
I'm just not sure he is developing into the player we need, and with us being in "win-now" mode, I don't think it makes sense to bring in more players to develop.
Josh would be more suited on a team in rebuild, or semi-rebuild mode imo where he would have more opportunity to play through his mistakes.
I think we'd be in a similar situation if we use the pick.

I'm thinking it would make more sense to attempt to trade the pick for a more useful player.
You are correct, there is a player, or a few players every year who are late 1st/early 2nd gems, but there is about an 80-90% chance of drafting someone about as useful as Josh in the 15-35 range. Again, not a knock on Josh, but this isn't the best situation for him to develop imo.

[BeiBeau]

If you look at what we have on the team 1 through 3
Luka Brunson THJ Dinwiddie DFS Bullock that is talent enough for 1 through 3 so we need to build chemistry with this crew moving forward unless you can do a trade and get something back that is better.

Green is trade bait he has taken too long to develop and his odds of getting to the next level are fading. Someone may be willing to take him on considering how he started to perform better last season. If you want to see if he made improvement in the offseason and look at your options then well you can always trade him at the TDL. But then you need to showcase him and that won't happen with a win now team if he is not performing well early in the season so it is a gamble to keep him. If he is not playing because he did not improve his shot then he will be more difficult to trade later because his value is at a high point now after his contributions in the play offs. He may be enough to get a team to take a gamble on if we want to get someone to take Powell off our hands without giving up picks.

The win now nature of this team means we need to focus on developing solutions to the weak links / holes on the team and that is primarily at the 5 and 4/5.

A cheap vet that can start is preferable to a rookie unless that rookie brings something special as in size and speed combinations and or shooting skills. Gasol was a 2nd round pick if I recall so you can find centers in the 2nd. There are guys in the draft that will be ready to play faster based on how they produced in college.

https://www.tankathon.com/big_board

Among rookies these first 2 appeal to me the most

Kofi Cockburn top 5 vertical in the combine among centers and has some good mobility for a 300# banger that is basically a dunking threat and does not shoot 3's but could grow into a legit inside scoring force. Similar size to Jazz center Udoka but has a more chiseled frame and is more athletic at this point in his career plus with NOLA developing and Zion returning you really need this kind of big to help control the paint more. A return to this kind of play would be bound to happen sooner or later. The way the game is played now will not last https://www.tankathon.com/players/kofi-cockburn

Orlando Robinson A decent 3 point shot on offense plus has played in college for 3 years just like Kofi and shot 35% from 3 last year so more prepared to play straight out of college. Could function as a PF next to Kofi and form a twin tower option.
https://www.tankathon.com/players/orlando-robinson

Kessler will probably not fall to us so I won't even really address him here https://www.tankathon.com/players/walker-kessler

More Projects than ready to play sooner or even now.

Kamagate is kind of skinny so he is not a center in my book he is more of a PF that has no shot so a Powell type.
https://www.tankathon.com/players/ismael-kamagate

Koloko https://www.tankathon.com/players/christian-koloko

Diop further down the totem pole of prospects: https://www.tankathon.com/players/khalifa-diop

GOALS: Find vet and at least one if not 2 rookie bigs the vet will hold the fort till one establishes their game at the NBA level and maybe one or both rookies can play back up enough to accelerate their development and show promise enough to one day start. If you can get rid of Powell do so. If a way to get 2 veteran centers exists that is also an option if financial considerations will work to allow that. Whiteside, Robinson, Bamba, Hartenstein are FA's that may fit.

Bigs we have now Bertans Kleeber Boban Powell & Chriss Stuck with Bertans and we probably keep Kleeber but Powell needs to go and based on what we are able to add you keep, trade or cut others.

"Green has taken too long to develop" He is developing, name 1 rookie Carlisle ever did a good job developing? I'll wait. This is basically his sophomore season.

If you like Robinson and Cockburn so much Dallas can just sign them after the draft because they're not gonna get picked.

[41Dirk41]

Bertans is not a big, he played C because our bigs sucks.

Chriss, Boban and Powell need to go. ASAP.

[BeiBeau]

One dude we don't talk about often but I'm really interested in is Marjon Beauchamp. His 3 ball isn't there but he has some of the best perimeter defense in the class, he's an excellent rebounder, and a freak athlete. He's also got an excellent motor and an insane work ethic so I think he will improve a lot. Unless he does a ton of work in the offseason and improves in his first season I don't think he's going to be a rotation player in the playoffs but in 3 years he could very well be a Mikal Bridges type or even 2013-15 Kawhi. At the very least if his 3 improves another 10-12% he would be one of the best 3-D guys in the league.

[cmavswin]

Walker Kessler would be a nice pick up IMO.

[Maverick41]

Imo if Walker Kessler is the kind of guy that we settle for in the draft, I'd rather do the following:

1) Trade the pick for a future FRP. Getting back our 23FRP from NY for example would be ideal so that we're less limited with packaging picks later.
2) Trade the pick to somehow pick up a starting level player
3) Trade the pick to get 2 high 2nd round picks like mentioned by some posters here. Both Orlando and OKC can be trade partners.

I just don't see any form of starter potential in Kessler. Big body, blocks shot really well at the college level but below average in everything else. That kind of player gets exposed quickly in today's perimeter oriented NBA.

[DreamTeam09]

Imo if Walker Kessler is the kind of guy that we settle for in the draft, I'd rather do the following:

1) Trade the pick for a future FRP. Getting back our 23FRP from NY for example would be ideal so that we're less limited with packaging picks later.
2) Trade the pick to somehow pick up a starting level player
3) Trade the pick to get 2 high 2nd round picks like mentioned by some posters here. Both Orlando and OKC can be trade partners.

I just don't see any form of starter potential in Kessler. Big body, blocks shot really well at the college level but below average in everything else. That kind of player gets exposed quickly in today's perimeter oriented NBA.

I like Koloko better than Kessler as far as bigs in the draft goes. Koloko moves better on defense and runs the floor better. Both good shot blockers.

Not a lot of playing time for wings on the Mavs - Dalen Terry is also another good option and so is Moore Jr who is probably the most NBA ready prospect who could be there at 26. I've been following this draft from a Raps perspective, but seeing how Dallas is my 2nd fav team, y'all are looking at some of our guys. Raps might take more of a wing player tho.

If Jovic is there at 26, Mavs gotta take him

[Maverick41]

Looks like OKC is out as a trade partner for the 2 high SRP swap for our pick after the JaMychal Green trade.