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Re: Official Speculation Thread: 1st pick in 2022 draft edition 

Post#21 » by drsd » Sun Jun 12, 2022 9:34 pm

JF5 wrote:I've never seen a team without goons, dirty players, or tough guys win a title since I've watched basketball.


Steven Adams must be a title waiting to happen.


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Re: Official Speculation Thread: 1st pick in 2022 draft edition 

Post#22 » by The Effect » Mon Jun 13, 2022 12:40 am

JF5 wrote:
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drsd wrote:Ross for Grayson Allen is an interesting rumor

HELL NO!
I dont wnat that guy anywhere near this team, hate being force to cheer for piece of **** players like him. Same goes for guys like lowry and draymond.


Every great team needs a tough guy/tough guys to get them over the hump or help energize them.

I've never seen a team without goons, dirty players, or tough guys win a title since I've watched basketball.

I would welcome this trade This makes sense for everyone.

theres a big different between tough guys and dirty thugs like Grayson. He really should be kicked out of the league for the **** he does

Trading for him would seriously force me to reconsider being a magic fan because i would never be able to cheer for that guy (yes i know that means literally 0 to the magic, but just saying)

this is NOT tough basketball, this is a piece of **** human being
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Re: Official Speculation Thread: 1st pick in 2022 draft edition 

Post#23 » by JF5 » Mon Jun 13, 2022 1:11 am

The Effect wrote:
JF5 wrote:
The Effect wrote:HELL NO!
I dont wnat that guy anywhere near this team, hate being force to cheer for piece of **** players like him. Same goes for guys like lowry and draymond.


Every great team needs a tough guy/tough guys to get them over the hump or help energize them.

I've never seen a team without goons, dirty players, or tough guys win a title since I've watched basketball.

I would welcome this trade This makes sense for everyone.

theres a big different between tough guys and dirty thugs like Grayson. He really should be kicked out of the league for the **** he does

Trading for him would seriously force me to reconsider being a magic fan because i would never be able to cheer for that guy (yes i know that means literally 0 to the magic, but just saying)

this is NOT tough basketball, this is a piece of **** human being


It's basketball... Unless he's outright hunting to hurt players I would be concerned. But the stuff he's done in the pros isn't worthy for extreme hoopla.

Outside of the Caruso incident where he actually made a play on the ball. He hasn't done anything else in an NBA season that should rile anyone up and he's played in the league for 4 years. I find the outrage silly.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread: 1st pick in the 2022 draft edition 

Post#24 » by fendilim » Mon Jun 13, 2022 1:59 am

I dont mind grayson as long as he doesnt hurt any of his teammates lol
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Re: Official Speculation Thread: 1st pick in 2022 draft edition 

Post#25 » by RookieStar » Mon Jun 13, 2022 2:52 am

JF5 wrote:
The Effect wrote:
JF5 wrote:
Every great team needs a tough guy/tough guys to get them over the hump or help energize them.

I've never seen a team without goons, dirty players, or tough guys win a title since I've watched basketball.

I would welcome this trade This makes sense for everyone.

theres a big different between tough guys and dirty thugs like Grayson. He really should be kicked out of the league for the **** he does

Trading for him would seriously force me to reconsider being a magic fan because i would never be able to cheer for that guy (yes i know that means literally 0 to the magic, but just saying)

this is NOT tough basketball, this is a piece of **** human being


It's basketball... Unless he's outright hunting to hurt players I would be concerned. But the stuff he's done in the pros isn't worthy for extreme hoopla.

Outside of the Caruso incident where he actually made a play on the ball. He hasn't done anything else in an NBA season that should rile anyone up and he's played in the league for 4 years. I find the outrage silly.


Same. What Beverly did was actually worse. GA had that rep becauase of tripping opposing player. I don't know of he actually did that in the NBA.

Also, what happened to Caruso was bad. However ot was a basketball play.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread: 1st pick in 2022 draft edition 

Post#26 » by drsd » Mon Jun 13, 2022 10:29 am

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this is NOT tough basketball, this is a piece of **** human being






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Re: Official Speculation Thread: 1st pick in the 2022 draft edition 

Post#27 » by pepe1991 » Mon Jun 13, 2022 11:38 am

Adams ain't dirty, he sets screens and drops bodies.
if Bamba could screen like him, he would be starter for ages in nba.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread: 1st pick in the 2022 draft edition 

Post#28 » by Skybox » Mon Jun 13, 2022 11:59 am

Adams is absolutely NOT dirty...He might be the biggest gentleman in the NBA-but he sets mammoth legal picks. I love the guy.

I don't mind agitators like (young, less nutty) Rodman and Draymond, but Grayson Allen, IMO, has some kind of issues...I don't think he's strategic in his tough play-it's more like he can't help himself. Jax kid, good shooter, insane athlete but the some of the "kicking the leg out" stuff seems like more than competitive to me.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread: 1st pick in the 2022 draft edition 

Post#29 » by basketballRob » Mon Jun 13, 2022 1:13 pm

It looks like to me that on nearly every screen that Golden State sets their legs are wider than their shoulders.

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Re: Official Speculation Thread: 1st pick in the 2022 draft edition 

Post#30 » by basketballRob » Mon Jun 13, 2022 2:51 pm

We should match up Chet with Bol Bol when he comes to work out.

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Re: Official Speculation Thread: 1st pick in the 2022 draft edition 

Post#31 » by LDNMagic90 » Mon Jun 13, 2022 3:45 pm

If we wanted a b*stard on the team, we potentially could have one in the mold of Suggs.

He already plays hard as it is, he doesn't shy from any bumps or anything. I'm just assuming but he may also talk a lot of sh*t to other teams.

I don't mind the idea of Allen though, these are the type of players everyone hates unless their on your team. When was the last time Orlando had someone like that?
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Re: Official Speculation Thread: 1st pick in 2022 draft edition 

Post#32 » by The Effect » Mon Jun 13, 2022 7:51 pm

JF5 wrote:
The Effect wrote:
JF5 wrote:
Every great team needs a tough guy/tough guys to get them over the hump or help energize them.

I've never seen a team without goons, dirty players, or tough guys win a title since I've watched basketball.

I would welcome this trade This makes sense for everyone.

theres a big different between tough guys and dirty thugs like Grayson. He really should be kicked out of the league for the **** he does

Trading for him would seriously force me to reconsider being a magic fan because i would never be able to cheer for that guy (yes i know that means literally 0 to the magic, but just saying)

this is NOT tough basketball, this is a piece of **** human being


It's basketball... Unless he's outright hunting to hurt players I would be concerned. But the stuff he's done in the pros isn't worthy for extreme hoopla.

Outside of the Caruso incident where he actually made a play on the ball. He hasn't done anything else in an NBA season that should rile anyone up and he's played in the league for 4 years. I find the outrage silly.

Wow
Just shows how desperate people get that they will literally ignore everything presented to them to justify a **** opinion

**** grayson allen, and i wont even pretend or attempt to sugar coat it, hes a piece of **** and no nothing in that video was "basketball"
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Re: Official Speculation Thread: 1st pick in 2022 draft edition 

Post#33 » by The Effect » Mon Jun 13, 2022 7:53 pm

drsd wrote:
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this is NOT tough basketball, this is a piece of **** human being







Draymond is also a piece of **** and woulnt support adding him either

Adams is the tough, but not dirty, there is a huge difference
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Re: Official Speculation Thread: 1st pick in the 2022 draft edition 

Post#34 » by basketballRob » Mon Jun 13, 2022 9:44 pm

Looks like Chuma is working out and getting tips from Carmelo. Also, he's working with Brickley the guy who trains Butler, Tatum, and Love.

If you go to Chuma's Instagram you can see Carmelo teaching him a move.

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Re: Official Speculation Thread: 1st pick in 2022 draft edition 

Post#35 » by JF5 » Mon Jun 13, 2022 9:48 pm

The Effect wrote:
JF5 wrote:
The Effect wrote:theres a big different between tough guys and dirty thugs like Grayson. He really should be kicked out of the league for the **** he does

Trading for him would seriously force me to reconsider being a magic fan because i would never be able to cheer for that guy (yes i know that means literally 0 to the magic, but just saying)

this is NOT tough basketball, this is a piece of **** human being


It's basketball... Unless he's outright hunting to hurt players I would be concerned. But the stuff he's done in the pros isn't worthy for extreme hoopla.

Outside of the Caruso incident where he actually made a play on the ball. He hasn't done anything else in an NBA season that should rile anyone up and he's played in the league for 4 years. I find the outrage silly.

Wow
Just shows how desperate people get that they will literally ignore everything presented to them to justify a **** opinion

**** grayson allen, and i wont even pretend or attempt to sugar coat it, hes a piece of **** and no nothing in that video was "basketball"


So is Michael Jordan a horrible person for bullying the **** out of his players to the point where he would get too personal or mentally break a few of them?

Kobe Bryant who had the same mentality and had a bit of covert dirty tendencies when it came to throwing elbows to opponents terrible too?

Shaquille O'Neal who would use his brute strength to not only use it as an advantage but also purposely hurt/intimidate the opposing players at times a piece of crap too?

I remember Isiah Thomas said during "Open Court" a decade ago that the great teams would play just as physical or viciously as The Bad Boy Pistons would. But they would get heat for it because they were just very unapologetic about it and it gave them an edge. You'll see that too when you see Kevin McHale clothesline the crap out of Kurt Rambis.

You even see it in the finals too, with not only with Draymond Green. But you guy got guys like Marcus Smart and Grant Williams who purposely agitate opposing teams with "questionable" tactics. They're just trying to gain every aspect of the game to gain an edge to win the game.

It's part of the game... Some players might and do take it too far. But when you want to win that badly people will do anything and everything to win in the confines of the rules presented to them. That's how it is If you're the greatest player or the bench warmer who is there to eat up fouls and agitate the opposing teams star player.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread: 1st pick in the 2022 draft edition 

Post#36 » by basketballRob » Mon Jun 13, 2022 10:27 pm

Okeke with Carmelo.

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Re: Official Speculation Thread: 1st pick in the 2022 draft edition 

Post#37 » by Nyce_1 » Mon Jun 13, 2022 10:39 pm

Amen Thompson will answer our prayers.
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Post#38 » by RookieStar » Mon Jun 13, 2022 10:41 pm

That pic of chuma looks like he slimmed down quite a bit. Hopefully back to his ncaa days...
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Re: Official Speculation Thread: 1st pick in the 2022 draft edition 

Post#39 » by basketballRob » Mon Jun 13, 2022 10:41 pm

Nyce_1 wrote:Amen Thompson will answer our prayers.
I can't figure out if he's the good one or his twin Ausar.

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Post#40 » by Nyce_1 » Mon Jun 13, 2022 10:52 pm

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Nyce_1 wrote:Amen Thompson will answer our prayers.
I can't figure out if he's the good one or his twin Ausar.

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