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Re: 2021-2022 College Basketball / NBA Draft 

Post#1101 » by Negrodamus » Mon Jun 13, 2022 3:58 pm

stormi wrote:New O'Connor

https://nbadraft.theringer.com/mock-draft

The Sixers are exploring trades involving this pick and Danny Green, according to sources.


Makes sense considering they haven't been meeting with prospects (publicly) or organizing workouts. Would be shocked if this pick is kept.


Yea, I've thought for the past month it would be stretch if we kept the pick. Not sure what it means to add a pick to Danny in a trade. Does he possess any value right now? If anything, he's an expiring contract that can be used to match up contracts in a bigger trade (ie Thybulle).
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Re: 2021-2022 College Basketball / NBA Draft 

Post#1102 » by ProcessDoctor » Mon Jun 13, 2022 4:06 pm

I'd do Danny + #23 for RoCo. Then use the tp-MLE on a guard (D. Wright, Dipo, Monk, G. Harris) and the vet min on a guy like Markieff Morris.

Harden/Milton/Springer
Maxey/(MLE)/Joe
Covington/Thybulle/Korkmaz
Harris/Reed/Niang
Embiid/Bassey/(Vet min)

I'd also consider trading Thybulle for a future FRP if that's on the table, but having depth for once would also be nice.
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Re: 2021-2022 College Basketball / NBA Draft 

Post#1103 » by Lou_23 » Mon Jun 13, 2022 4:13 pm

What is waiting Sam Vecenie for his new mock draft ? The last is post lottery.
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Re: 2021-2022 College Basketball / NBA Draft 

Post#1104 » by stormi » Mon Jun 13, 2022 4:15 pm

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stormi wrote:New O'Connor

https://nbadraft.theringer.com/mock-draft

The Sixers are exploring trades involving this pick and Danny Green, according to sources.


Makes sense considering they haven't been meeting with prospects (publicly) or organizing workouts. Would be shocked if this pick is kept.


Yea, I've thought for the past month it would be stretch if we kept the pick. Not sure what it means to add a pick to Danny in a trade. Does he possess any value right now? If anything, he's an expiring contract that can be used to match up contracts in a bigger trade (ie Thybulle).


Exactly, a salary buoy. The Jazz did the same thing with Ingles after he ripped up his knee and plucked back NAW.

I'd have to see the trade bringing back a legitimate contributor because to me Green + #23 (+?) is a significant package of assets relative to our situation.

DG also will be back by the TDL so his traded absence is a subtraction that has to be accounted for. But then again, he is 35 currently on one acl. That might be the swan song.
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Re: 2021-2022 College Basketball / NBA Draft 

Post#1105 » by Jailblazers7 » Mon Jun 13, 2022 4:25 pm

Yeah it’s hard for me to imagine the targets for Danny + #23.

I wonder if there’s something like this idea:

Danny Green + #23 for Favors/Kendrich Williams/#34

Give OKC a high value 1st where they can get a big like Walker Kessler to anchor their defense. Chet + Walker Kessler would be a fascinating young defense duo actually. We improve our frontcourt and get a 2nd to snag one of the wings that slip past the 1st round.

Feels like ultimately our best path to a real upgrade is Danny/Matisse/#23 for someone.
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Post#1106 » by Jailblazers7 » Mon Jun 13, 2022 4:31 pm

Wouldn’t be mad if we just took Blake Wesley and kept him tho.
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Re: 2021-2022 College Basketball / NBA Draft 

Post#1107 » by stormi » Mon Jun 13, 2022 4:35 pm

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Post#1108 » by Negrodamus » Mon Jun 13, 2022 4:38 pm

Jailblazers7 wrote:Yeah it’s hard for me to imagine the targets for Danny + #23.

I wonder if there’s something like this idea:

Danny Green + #23 for Favors/Kendrich Williams/#34

Give OKC a high value 1st where they can get a big like Walker Kessler to anchor their defense. Chet + Walker Kessler would be a fascinating young defense duo actually. We improve our frontcourt and get a 2nd to snag one of the wings that slip past the 1st round.

Feels like ultimately our best path to a real upgrade is Danny/Matisse/#23 for someone.


Not to turn this into a trade thread, but I could see Danny Green, Matisse Thybulle, Furkan Korkmaz and the first for Jerami Grant. They're in all likelihood going to get another scorer to add with Cade and don't need a 28 year old role player taking 15 shots a game.

Grant also feels like a guy that Morey would have tried to pair up with Harden in Houston. Not sure what Grant's value is on the last year of his huge contract. Would still leave the Tobias question going into the summer.
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Re: 2021-2022 College Basketball / NBA Draft 

Post#1109 » by ProcessDoctor » Mon Jun 13, 2022 5:01 pm

Jerami Grant's interesting. His rebounding numbers are bad for a player with his size/athleticism, but the 3PAr + BLKs + STLs are pretty good. I wonder if he's the correct player to dump our remaining assets towards.

Harden/(MLE)/Milton
Maxey/Springer/Joe
Grant/Niang/(Vet min)
Harris/Reed/(Vet min)
Embiid/Bassey/Petrusev?

Pretty thin team again and we'd need to absolutely nail the MLE. Not totally against it but would hope vets come a chasin.
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Post#1110 » by Iverson Armband » Mon Jun 13, 2022 5:20 pm

I’d do the proposed deal for Grant, but you have to assume they could get more for him. Maybe that’s a deal they take after realizing his value isn’t as high as they once thought.
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Post#1111 » by Negrodamus » Mon Jun 13, 2022 5:23 pm

I'll just say I'm not terribly interested in Grant. It wouldn't be the end of the world and he could be convinced to return at a cheaper price to contend for the next 5 years, but he's not really moving the needle for me.
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Re: 2021-2022 College Basketball / NBA Draft 

Post#1112 » by Lou_23 » Mon Jun 13, 2022 5:27 pm

Grant is a 1 year rental, i dont want him
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Post#1113 » by stormi » Mon Jun 13, 2022 5:38 pm

I only do a Grant deal if Harris is going the other way.

I think there's a chance Harris could be viewed as a good connecting vet piece to have around Cade & Saddiq. Especially if they see Grant as a flight risk at this point. He's been giving off weird vibes about his next contract. I think he'll chase the money and he wants to have the ball as much as possible - which makes him a questionable short and long termed fit.
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Re: 2021-2022 College Basketball / NBA Draft 

Post#1114 » by Jailblazers7 » Mon Jun 13, 2022 7:06 pm

I don’t know what our plans are but I think we might need to focus on the draft and whatever FAs we can get. There are teams like Denver or Portland who have more assets and will probably outbid us for any players of real quality.

The play might be draft a quality player at 23, make some signings at the margin, and be opportunistic at the deadline again. Wesley, Moore, McGowens, LaRavia, Terry, etc are all high quality prospects imo and can either prove valuable or be moved mid season.
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Re: 2021-2022 College Basketball / NBA Draft 

Post#1115 » by Negrodamus » Mon Jun 13, 2022 7:06 pm

stormi wrote:I only do a Grant deal if Harris is going the other way.

I think there's a chance Harris could be viewed as a good connecting vet piece to have around Cade & Saddiq. Especially if they see Grant as a flight risk at this point. He's been giving off weird vibes about his next contract. I think he'll chase the money and he wants to have the ball as much as possible - which makes him a questionable short and long termed fit.


I think a completely galaxy brain move would be a trade around Tobi and DLO. Try to sign Boucher or Kyle Anderson, fill out the rest of the roster with high effort, defensive minded ring chasers. We'd have bombers on the court at any time and guys who can get the ball to Embiid.
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Re: 2021-2022 College Basketball / NBA Draft 

Post#1116 » by stormi » Mon Jun 13, 2022 7:14 pm

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stormi wrote:I only do a Grant deal if Harris is going the other way.

I think there's a chance Harris could be viewed as a good connecting vet piece to have around Cade & Saddiq. Especially if they see Grant as a flight risk at this point. He's been giving off weird vibes about his next contract. I think he'll chase the money and he wants to have the ball as much as possible - which makes him a questionable short and long termed fit.


I think a completely galaxy brain move would be a trade around Tobi and DLO. Try to sign Boucher or Kyle Anderson, fill out the rest of the roster with high effort, defensive minded ring chasers. We'd have bombers on the court at any time and guys who can get the ball to Embiid.


Yeah, that needs to be done yesterday.

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Re: 2021-2022 College Basketball / NBA Draft 

Post#1117 » by Kobblehead » Mon Jun 13, 2022 10:22 pm

Having #23 and using it on another 19 year old is the only thing that will make Harden's looming albatross extension palatable, for me.
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Re: 2021-2022 College Basketball / NBA Draft 

Post#1118 » by 76ciology » Tue Jun 14, 2022 4:13 am

Kobblehead wrote:Having #23 and using it on another 19 year old is the only thing that will make Harden's looming albatross extension palatable, for me.


That’s not how it works, the goal is championship.

Making it to the finals or winning the chip with an albatross contract makes it palatable
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Re: 2021-2022 College Basketball / NBA Draft 

Post#1119 » by 76ciology » Tue Jun 14, 2022 4:14 am

I dont mind Green + 23 for Grant (my favorite trade target) or Christian Wood.
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Re: 2021-2022 College Basketball / NBA Draft 

Post#1120 » by Mik317 » Tue Jun 14, 2022 5:07 am

young players make up for a lot of the pain that is watching this team sometimes lol.

Logic be damned.

whoever we do trade the pick for better be athletic at least. I'm seeing Kendrich Williams and **** and already malding over it. I'd take a flyer and use Danny's contract, Thybulle, Tobias, and the MLE for fix the roster. Yeah whoever we take probably won't help this year...but idk if any body we trade it for does that either...whereas said pick COULD help us down the road...even if only as a viable trade piece. Team keeps going all in, and then flaming out anyway and have **** all to fix it.

The same logic of "oh he won't help us right now" is what almost got Maxey traded last year. Imagine if we didn't have Maxey this year.....shiiiet.

BUT thats just my own bias and over optimism of draft picks talking to an extent. I will always believe in the mystery box over the known product..so I get the other side of it. I am just not pleased with trading it for another over the hill mediocre athlete
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