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So he goes to the Gleague when he already would’ve been in the Gleague regardless of who drafted him. Makes sense to do that since he can potentially earn more money in his rookie contract. Gonna need a solid season though cause the 2023 draft is better
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Good move by Miller. College woulda been the worst choice
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 3 (June 23) 

Post#1126 » by WuTang_CMB » Mon Jun 13, 2022 5:01 pm

Good for leonard miller. Right decision. Way too raw has zero game.
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 3 (June 23) 

Post#1127 » by Kevin Willis » Mon Jun 13, 2022 5:02 pm

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This is the thing about Procida that I noticed about scouts. They all say the same thing - he's explosive / athletic, great shooter for a few years (set, C&S, off dribble it doesn't matter), he's tall for a SG, great standing reach, swagger, great percentages (50,40,80) and shows defensive potential. No big weaknesses in his game. If you describe a college athlete like that he's a lottery pick. Scouts though have him late second round or even undrafted. Now some scouts that don't care about him being international and just look at his game are saying he's a first round pick because of what I listed above. So, I have no clue where he's going to go. He might go late lotto if a team really sees his worth or he might go undrafted. He's an ideal fit for us but since nobody knows where he might go I don't even consider him at our pick anymore. I would rather focus on guys I am pretty confident will around our pick.


He's likely been underscouted due to covid. But, sometimes athleticism can be oversold with "shooters." e.g. Chase Budinger, Ben McLemore, Mario Henzonjia. Maybe he's getting destroyed in workouts?


That is a good point athleticism being oversold. I don't think he's getting destroyed in workouts, he had one where he nasty dunked on a few of those arm extenders. Him and Caleb, have no idea what's going on with those two or where they will be selected.
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 3 (June 23) 

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tough to gauge these international guys but I like Procida for his upside


This is the thing about Procida that I noticed about scouts. They all say the same thing - he's explosive / athletic, great shooter for a few years (set, C&S, off dribble it doesn't matter), he's tall for a SG, great standing reach, swagger, great percentages (50,40,80) and shows defensive potential. No big weaknesses in his game. If you describe a college athlete like that he's a lottery pick. Scouts though have him late second round or even undrafted. Now some scouts that don't care about him being international and just look at his game are saying he's a first round pick because of what I listed above. So, I have no clue where he's going to go. He might go late lotto if a team really sees his worth or he might go undrafted. He's an ideal fit for us but since nobody knows where he might go I don't even consider him at our pick anymore. I would rather focus on guys I am pretty confident will around our pick.


At this point, though, I have a hard time believing that every team will pass him up before the 33rd pick. I definitely can't see him going undrafted. The people who make those mock drafts don't spend as much time scouting international prospects (aside from Barlowe and a couple of others) so as you point out, they don't really know how to compare him to American players. NBA teams' scouting departments won't have that same gap in knowledge.

I would still love to see him on the Raps because I think he's got a chance to be very good, but right now my guess is he goes in the 20s somewhere.


he looks amazing, I fell in love with him after reading this article and watching this tapes. really hope he's under Masai's and bobby's radar

https://www.peachtreehoops.com/2022/5/29/23143089/2022-nba-draft-scouting-report-gabriele-procida-offense-defense-video-big-board-atlanta-hawks
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At worst he's Kwame Brown with better hands, right? Taller Capela?
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 3 (June 23) 

Post#1131 » by DreamTeam09 » Mon Jun 13, 2022 5:28 pm

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This is the thing about Procida that I noticed about scouts. They all say the same thing - he's explosive / athletic, great shooter for a few years (set, C&S, off dribble it doesn't matter), he's tall for a SG, great standing reach, swagger, great percentages (50,40,80) and shows defensive potential. No big weaknesses in his game. If you describe a college athlete like that he's a lottery pick. Scouts though have him late second round or even undrafted. Now some scouts that don't care about him being international and just look at his game are saying he's a first round pick because of what I listed above. So, I have no clue where he's going to go. He might go late lotto if a team really sees his worth or he might go undrafted. He's an ideal fit for us but since nobody knows where he might go I don't even consider him at our pick anymore. I would rather focus on guys I am pretty confident will around our pick.


At this point, though, I have a hard time believing that every team will pass him up before the 33rd pick. I definitely can't see him going undrafted. The people who make those mock drafts don't spend as much time scouting international prospects (aside from Barlowe and a couple of others) so as you point out, they don't really know how to compare him to American players. NBA teams' scouting departments won't have that same gap in knowledge.

I would still love to see him on the Raps because I think he's got a chance to be very good, but right now my guess is he goes in the 20s somewhere.


he looks amazing, I fell in love with him after reading this article and watching this tapes. really hope he's under Masai's and bobby's radar

https://www.peachtreehoops.com/2022/5/29/23143089/2022-nba-draft-scouting-report-gabriele-procida-offense-defense-video-big-board-atlanta-hawks


He's the player I want the most, no way he's not a legit NBA player in a few years, definitely an NBA prospect now. I just don't think we're drafting him because I haven't heard any rumbles at all, but he easily should be our pick. I hate how we're so rigid in our drafting philosophy
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 3 (June 23) 

Post#1132 » by WuTang_CMB » Mon Jun 13, 2022 5:31 pm

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At this point, though, I have a hard time believing that every team will pass him up before the 33rd pick. I definitely can't see him going undrafted. The people who make those mock drafts don't spend as much time scouting international prospects (aside from Barlowe and a couple of others) so as you point out, they don't really know how to compare him to American players. NBA teams' scouting departments won't have that same gap in knowledge.

I would still love to see him on the Raps because I think he's got a chance to be very good, but right now my guess is he goes in the 20s somewhere.


he looks amazing, I fell in love with him after reading this article and watching this tapes. really hope he's under Masai's and bobby's radar

https://www.peachtreehoops.com/2022/5/29/23143089/2022-nba-draft-scouting-report-gabriele-procida-offense-defense-video-big-board-atlanta-hawks


He's the player I want the most, no way he's not a legit NBA player in a few years, definitely an NBA prospect now. I just don't think we're drafting him because I haven't heard any rumbles at all, but he easily should be our pick. I hate how we're so rigid in our drafting philosophy


I actually think a euro would compliment our group really well. System, solid role player that knows how to play within the team. It all comes down to if he can translate consistently which seems the biggest factor for these guys coming over. So hard to gauge.
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 3 (June 23) 

Post#1133 » by WuTang_CMB » Mon Jun 13, 2022 5:32 pm

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At worst he's Kwame Brown with better hands, right? Taller Capela?


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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 3 (June 23) 

Post#1134 » by Psubs » Mon Jun 13, 2022 5:34 pm

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At this point, though, I have a hard time believing that every team will pass him up before the 33rd pick. I definitely can't see him going undrafted. The people who make those mock drafts don't spend as much time scouting international prospects (aside from Barlowe and a couple of others) so as you point out, they don't really know how to compare him to American players. NBA teams' scouting departments won't have that same gap in knowledge.

I would still love to see him on the Raps because I think he's got a chance to be very good, but right now my guess is he goes in the 20s somewhere.


he looks amazing, I fell in love with him after reading this article and watching this tapes. really hope he's under Masai's and bobby's radar

https://www.peachtreehoops.com/2022/5/29/23143089/2022-nba-draft-scouting-report-gabriele-procida-offense-defense-video-big-board-atlanta-hawks


He's the player I want the most, no way he's not a legit NBA player in a few years, definitely an NBA prospect now. I just don't think we're drafting him because I haven't heard any rumbles at all, but he easily should be our pick. I hate how we're so rigid in our drafting philosophy


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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 3 (June 23) 

Post#1135 » by DreamTeam09 » Mon Jun 13, 2022 5:35 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:
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he looks amazing, I fell in love with him after reading this article and watching this tapes. really hope he's under Masai's and bobby's radar

https://www.peachtreehoops.com/2022/5/29/23143089/2022-nba-draft-scouting-report-gabriele-procida-offense-defense-video-big-board-atlanta-hawks


He's the player I want the most, no way he's not a legit NBA player in a few years, definitely an NBA prospect now. I just don't think we're drafting him because I haven't heard any rumbles at all, but he easily should be our pick. I hate how we're so rigid in our drafting philosophy


I actually think a euro would compliment our group really well. System, solid role player that knows how to play within the team. It all comes down to if he can translate consistently which seems the biggest factor for these guys coming over. So hard to gauge.


They picked up Svi, who in theory is like a Procida type so in theory we aren't shy of intl wing guys. But damn, I hope they worked him out or went to go see him live
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 3 (June 23) 

Post#1136 » by Kevin Willis » Mon Jun 13, 2022 5:45 pm

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tough to gauge these international guys but I like Procida for his upside


This is the thing about Procida that I noticed about scouts. They all say the same thing - he's explosive / athletic, great shooter for a few years (set, C&S, off dribble it doesn't matter), he's tall for a SG, great standing reach, swagger, great percentages (50,40,80) and shows defensive potential. No big weaknesses in his game. If you describe a college athlete like that he's a lottery pick. Scouts though have him late second round or even undrafted. Now some scouts that don't care about him being international and just look at his game are saying he's a first round pick because of what I listed above. So, I have no clue where he's going to go. He might go late lotto if a team really sees his worth or he might go undrafted. He's an ideal fit for us but since nobody knows where he might go I don't even consider him at our pick anymore. I would rather focus on guys I am pretty confident will around our pick.


At this point, though, I have a hard time believing that every team will pass him up before the 33rd pick. I definitely can't see him going undrafted. The people who make those mock drafts don't spend as much time scouting international prospects (aside from Barlowe and a couple of others) so as you point out, they don't really know how to compare him to American players. NBA teams' scouting departments won't have that same gap in knowledge.

I would still love to see him on the Raps because I think he's got a chance to be very good, but right now my guess is he goes in the 20s somewhere.


You and I have been on the same page with Procida for a long time now. He should go in the 20s somewhere I agree, but he's not being mocked there. Another thing that was at times clearly his teammates (or coach) froze him out of plays. Even Barlowe noted it. He's constantly moving around the floor, cutting, moving off screens etc and he won't get the ball so he's actually better than he shows. If you want so see what he looks like when he has more freedom on his Italian squad. I think he would be perfect on the Raptors and he doesn't need the ball in his hands although in the future he can develop his dribble and passing. He can become our Robinson but better.

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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 3 (June 23) 

Post#1137 » by Psubs » Mon Jun 13, 2022 5:52 pm

Kevin Willis wrote:You and I have been on the same page with Procida for a long time now. He should go in the 20s somewhere I agree, but he's not being mocked there. Another thing that was at times clearly his teammates (or coach) froze him out of plays. Even Barlowe noted it. He's constantly moving around the floor, cutting, moving off screens etc and he won't get the ball so he's actually better than he shows. If you want so see what he looks like when he has more freedom on his Italian squad. I think he would be perfect on the Raptors and he doesn't need the ball in his hands although in the future he can develop his dribble and passing. He can become our Robinson but better.


Did he get frozen out because he doesn't pass the ball back? :reporter: Or does he not pass the ball because he got froze out?
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 3 (June 23) 

Post#1138 » by WuTang_CMB » Mon Jun 13, 2022 6:06 pm

Too bad Patrick Baldwin doesn't play any D. He'd give us a nice lift in the rotation with that sweet shooting touch.
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 3 (June 23) 

Post#1139 » by DreamTeam09 » Mon Jun 13, 2022 6:12 pm

Leonard Miller withdrew from the draft and will be on the GLeague Ignite team
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 3 (June 23) 

Post#1140 » by JShuttlesworth » Mon Jun 13, 2022 6:16 pm

No surprise Miller is out. He is a project and wasn't ready this year

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