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Craft your 2022-23 Celtics Roster – (20-Man Off-Season)

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Craft your 2022-23 Roster = Assume keeping Smart, Brown & Tatum

Horford
69
16%
Rob Williams
69
16%
Pritchard
61
14%
White
60
14%
Nesmith
38
9%
Grant Williams
67
16%
Theis
35
8%
Non-Guaranteed = Morgan - Stauskas - Hauser - Fitts
9
2%
Unsigned = Kornet - Thomas - Ryan
1
0%
Rookie/Other
20
5%
 
Total votes: 429

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Re: Begin to Craft your 2022-23 Celtics Roster 

Post#281 » by hugepatsfan » Sun Jun 12, 2022 8:57 pm

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Agreed he has an intriguing skill set. But you mentioned him as a possibility to start at PF next to Timelord. This article you posted includes a few very damning arguments against that:

"He has yet to expand his game consistently beyond the arc or even in the mid-range."

"Hartenstein also really struggles to defend guards in space. The stats don't paint him as an overt negative, but Utah in particular attacked him in switches and beat him off the dribble."

Everything in that article suggests he'd be a god backup to Rob but a very poor starter next to him.

Read on Twitter

He grades out however as a very good perimeter defender apparently


Hmm, not sure what the disconnect is between that list and the earlier article.

He definitely seems like an interesting player. But even if he can defend the perimeter, without any semblance of a consistent jump shot he probably just isn't offensively viable as a PF next to Rob. Which doesn't mean he isn't worth pursuing because big man depth is important, particularly someone with the injury concerns Rob has. But just doesn't seem to be a great fit as a PF. At least next to Rob.
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Post#282 » by CelticFaninLBC » Sun Jun 12, 2022 9:48 pm

Signing a ring chaser vet big with the MLE, like Jeff Green or Thad Young, is more likely than signing a young big, like Hartenstein or Jalen Smith. There just isn't a lot of guaranteed playing time with Rob, Big Al and Grant Williams absorbing most of the minutes at the 4 & 5.
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Post#283 » by Marvel » Mon Jun 13, 2022 1:58 am

You know who we should've gotten as a backup to Rob? Biyombo. We should get him.
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Post#284 » by Marvel » Mon Jun 13, 2022 1:59 am

CelticFaninLBC wrote:Signing a ring chaser vet big with the MLE, like Jeff Green or Thad Young, is more likely than signing a young big, like Hartenstein or Jalen Smith. There just isn't a lot of guaranteed playing time with Rob, Big Al and Grant Williams absorbing most of the minutes at the 4 & 5.

Rob cant stay healthy. And Al is old. We need an insurance big at least.
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Post#285 » by Fierce1 » Mon Jun 13, 2022 12:41 pm

https://www.si.com/fannation/nba/fastbreak/news/opinion-the-boston-celtics-need-to-trade-for-this-former-rookie-of-the-year

Therefore, it's safe to say they have built an elite roster.
However, I believe that for next season if they want to remain as a true contender, they need to add a true point guard into the mix.
One of the players that I believe they should take a look at is 2016 Rookie of The Year Malcolm Brogdon.
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Post#286 » by Hal14 » Mon Jun 13, 2022 1:48 pm

CelticFaninLBC wrote:Signing a ring chaser vet big with the MLE, like Jeff Green or Thad Young, is more likely than signing a young big, like Hartenstein or Jalen Smith. There just isn't a lot of guaranteed playing time with Rob, Big Al and Grant Williams absorbing most of the minutes at the 4 & 5.

Yeah..young and Green are certainly names to have on the radar. But they'll be another year older next season - not sure how much they'll have left in the tank.
Nothing wrong with having a different opinion - as long as it's done respectfully. It'd be lame if we all agreed on everything :)
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Post#287 » by poopship » Mon Jun 13, 2022 2:21 pm

We shouldn't act like there are A Horford replacements for the bench available anywhere, he's uniquely all-around. Please do draft a project big with a broad set of talents but obv these are super long shots.
The depth we already have is good: We know Grant can defend some very large centers pretty effectively and Theis is good against the non-elite centers in the extremes like Embiid or Bam. Al can defend anyone and Rob is somewhat a wild card when he's not doing the roaming down low thing but obviously can play center.
So I think we need just the best available floor spacing small ball C like old friend Jeff or a capable center that can guard down low and set screens. Really it's a give and take because we can't have it all in one player.
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Post#288 » by bucknersrevenge » Mon Jun 13, 2022 2:30 pm

Hal14 wrote:
CelticFaninLBC wrote:Signing a ring chaser vet big with the MLE, like Jeff Green or Thad Young, is more likely than signing a young big, like Hartenstein or Jalen Smith. There just isn't a lot of guaranteed playing time with Rob, Big Al and Grant Williams absorbing most of the minutes at the 4 & 5.

Yeah..young and Green are certainly names to have on the radar. But they'll be another year older next season - not sure how much they'll have left in the tank.


Nothing wrong with signing vets on 1-2 year deals to come off the bench and play 20 (25 min tops) minutes. That's all we're asking. Hell, anyone wanting more than that we can't really provide minutes for anyway.
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Post#289 » by Celts17Pride » Mon Jun 13, 2022 5:21 pm

The Denver Nuggets are trading forward JaMychal Green and a protected 2027 first-round pick to the Oklahoma City Thunder for the 30th pick in this month's NBA draft, and two future second-round picks, sources told ESPN on Monday.

The Thunder still have the Nos. 2, 12 and 34 picks in this year's draft, and the Nuggets now have Nos. 21 and 30.

Oklahoma City will send Denver second-round picks in 2023 and 2024, sources said.


Wouldn't be surprised if JaMychal Green becomes a Celtics target with the TPE but who knows?
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Post#290 » by poopship » Mon Jun 13, 2022 6:01 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:The Denver Nuggets are trading forward JaMychal Green and a protected 2027 first-round pick to the Oklahoma City Thunder for the 30th pick in this month's NBA draft, and two future second-round picks, sources told ESPN on Monday.

The Thunder still have the Nos. 2, 12 and 34 picks in this year's draft, and the Nuggets now have Nos. 21 and 30.

Oklahoma City will send Denver second-round picks in 2023 and 2024, sources said.


Wouldn't be surprised if JaMychal Green becomes a Celtics target with the TPE but who knows?


I like JaMychals fiery spirit but is he effective? Just by what I've seen he's kind of a tweener. Like Daniel Theis but less capable as a center.
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Re: Begin to Craft your 2022-23 Celtics Roster 

Post#291 » by Celts17Pride » Mon Jun 13, 2022 6:09 pm

poopship wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:The Denver Nuggets are trading forward JaMychal Green and a protected 2027 first-round pick to the Oklahoma City Thunder for the 30th pick in this month's NBA draft, and two future second-round picks, sources told ESPN on Monday.

The Thunder still have the Nos. 2, 12 and 34 picks in this year's draft, and the Nuggets now have Nos. 21 and 30.

Oklahoma City will send Denver second-round picks in 2023 and 2024, sources said.


Wouldn't be surprised if JaMychal Green becomes a Celtics target with the TPE but who knows?


I like JaMychals fiery spirit but is he effective? Just by what I've seen he's kind of a tweener. Like Daniel Theis but less capable as a center.

He has never been a center. He is a PF. Don't know if he is still any good. Just saying he may be an option.
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Re: Begin to Craft your 2022-23 Celtics Roster 

Post#292 » by poopship » Mon Jun 13, 2022 6:14 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:
poopship wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:The Denver Nuggets are trading forward JaMychal Green and a protected 2027 first-round pick to the Oklahoma City Thunder for the 30th pick in this month's NBA draft, and two future second-round picks, sources told ESPN on Monday.

The Thunder still have the Nos. 2, 12 and 34 picks in this year's draft, and the Nuggets now have Nos. 21 and 30.

Oklahoma City will send Denver second-round picks in 2023 and 2024, sources said.


Wouldn't be surprised if JaMychal Green becomes a Celtics target with the TPE but who knows?


I like JaMychals fiery spirit but is he effective? Just by what I've seen he's kind of a tweener. Like Daniel Theis but less capable as a center.

He has never been a center. He is a PF.


So he's Daniel Theis without the rim protection. Pass
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Re: Begin to Craft your 2022-23 Celtics Roster 

Post#293 » by Celts17Pride » Mon Jun 13, 2022 6:22 pm

poopship wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:
poopship wrote:
I like JaMychals fiery spirit but is he effective? Just by what I've seen he's kind of a tweener. Like Daniel Theis but less capable as a center.

He has never been a center. He is a PF.


So he's Daniel Theis without the rim protection. Pass

When has Theis provided rim protection? :lol:
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Re: Begin to Craft your 2022-23 Celtics Roster 

Post#294 » by poopship » Mon Jun 13, 2022 6:24 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:
poopship wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:He has never been a center. He is a PF.


So he's Daniel Theis without the rim protection. Pass

When has Theis provided rim protection? :lol:


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Post#295 » by CelticFaninLBC » Mon Jun 13, 2022 8:59 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:The Denver Nuggets are trading forward JaMychal Green and a protected 2027 first-round pick to the Oklahoma City Thunder for the 30th pick in this month's NBA draft, and two future second-round picks, sources told ESPN on Monday.

The Thunder still have the Nos. 2, 12 and 34 picks in this year's draft, and the Nuggets now have Nos. 21 and 30.

Oklahoma City will send Denver second-round picks in 2023 and 2024, sources said.


Wouldn't be surprised if JaMychal Green becomes a Celtics target with the TPE but who knows?


Unless there's a Green and 2nd rounder for Theis and Nesmith swap, can't see any reason to obtain Green.
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Post#296 » by CelticFaninLBC » Mon Jun 13, 2022 9:01 pm

Hal14 wrote:
CelticFaninLBC wrote:Signing a ring chaser vet big with the MLE, like Jeff Green or Thad Young, is more likely than signing a young big, like Hartenstein or Jalen Smith. There just isn't a lot of guaranteed playing time with Rob, Big Al and Grant Williams absorbing most of the minutes at the 4 & 5.

Yeah..young and Green are certainly names to have on the radar. But they'll be another year older next season - not sure how much they'll have left in the tank.


Not sure what they'll have in the tank.

Can't expect much with the MLE though, especially when there isn't a lot of guaranteed playing time considering the top 7.
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Post#297 » by playa-hater » Mon Jun 13, 2022 10:25 pm

Fierce1 wrote:https://www.si.com/fannation/nba/fastbreak/news/opinion-the-boston-celtics-need-to-trade-for-this-former-rookie-of-the-year

Therefore, it's safe to say they have built an elite roster.
However, I believe that for next season if they want to remain as a true contender, they need to add a true point guard into the mix.
One of the players that I believe they should take a look at is 2016 Rookie of The Year Malcolm Brogdon.


What are trade possibilities?? Isn't MB near the 20 million per mark?? IF he is, I don't see it as possible unless Horford is involved.
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Post#298 » by Fierce1 » Mon Jun 13, 2022 10:33 pm

playa-hater wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:https://www.si.com/fannation/nba/fastbreak/news/opinion-the-boston-celtics-need-to-trade-for-this-former-rookie-of-the-year

Therefore, it's safe to say they have built an elite roster.
However, I believe that for next season if they want to remain as a true contender, they need to add a true point guard into the mix.
One of the players that I believe they should take a look at is 2016 Rookie of The Year Malcolm Brogdon.


What are trade possibilities?? Isn't MB near the 20 million per mark?? IF he is, I don't see it as possible unless Horford is involved.

Yes, he's getting over 20m per.

White has to be involved in the deal.
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Post#299 » by playa-hater » Mon Jun 13, 2022 10:38 pm

Fierce1 wrote:
playa-hater wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:https://www.si.com/fannation/nba/fastbreak/news/opinion-the-boston-celtics-need-to-trade-for-this-former-rookie-of-the-year

Therefore, it's safe to say they have built an elite roster.
However, I believe that for next season if they want to remain as a true contender, they need to add a true point guard into the mix.
One of the players that I believe they should take a look at is 2016 Rookie of The Year Malcolm Brogdon.


What are trade possibilities?? Isn't MB near the 20 million per mark?? IF he is, I don't see it as possible unless Horford is involved.

Yes, he's getting over 20m per.

White has to be involved in the deal.


I like MB more than D White, but NOT if Boston has to throw more assets to get him..
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Post#300 » by JR Hawks » Tue Jun 14, 2022 1:12 am

Here we go again.

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