2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon

[SO_MONEY]

Interesting Eason isn't in the green room. Would be real happy if we could grab him.

He seems like a great fit for us. Tankathon has him going 15th.

Apparently he has a head full of rocks and serious questions about his BBIQ. Don't think I take that at #19.

[KGdaBom]

Interesting Eason isn't in the green room. Would be real happy if we could grab him.

He seems like a great fit for us. Tankathon has him going 15th.

Apparently he has a head full of rocks and serious questions about his BBIQ. Don't think I take that at #19.

I temporarily took you off ignore to check out this post. According to who? That's a pretty nasty thing to say.

[jpatrick]

He seems like a great fit for us. Tankathon has him going 15th.

Apparently he has a head full of rocks and serious questions about his BBIQ. Don't think I take that at #19.

I temporarily took you off ignore to check out this post. According to who? That's a pretty nasty thing to say.

I’ve seen quite a few websites seriously question his BBIQ on both ends of the court. And after watching 3-4 LSU games, I see what they’re talking about. He has zero discipline on either end. On offense, his entire game is putting his head down and going right. Won’t work in the NBA, especially with his awful assist/TO ratio. On defense, elite athleticism but kinda just roams.

As far as a head of box of rocks. There were a few Twitter posts that said he wasn’t coming across well in interviews at the beginning of the draft process. None from really reputable sources and no reputable source would put that out there even if they heard it. I’m guessing no green room invite means could be true.

I might still take him at 19 because his physical tools are so great. But we are a team with such a low BBIQ already. Meh. Souchan/Dyson, on the other hand, I’d love to move up a few spots for if they slide. Both Uber high BBIQ.

[SO_MONEY]

He seems like a great fit for us. Tankathon has him going 15th.

Apparently he has a head full of rocks and serious questions about his BBIQ. Don't think I take that at #19.

I temporarily took you off ignore to check out this post. According to who? That's a pretty nasty thing to say.

There was a report out about it, that film sessions DID NOT GO WELL. Why even ask me who said it? Look it up if you don't believe me. Just keep me on ignore if you value my posts to the point you just want to question them and accuse me of being "nasty" for no reason. Thanks.

[KGdaBom]

Apparently he has a head full of rocks and serious questions about his BBIQ. Don't think I take that at #19.

I temporarily took you off ignore to check out this post. According to who? That's a pretty nasty thing to say.

There was a report out about it, that film sessions DID NOT GO WELL. Why even ask me who said it? Look it up if you don't believe me. Just keep me on ignore if you value my posts to the point you just want to question them and accuse me of being "nasty" for no reason. Thanks.

I didn't accuse you of being nasty. I was accusing whoever said "he has a head full of rocks" of being nasty. That's why I asked you who said it. IF nobody but you actually said that then yes you were the one being nasty. I get using colorful language in posts, but it should be remembered that players are people too. Very rude is what I should have said instead of nasty.

[KGdaBom]

Apparently he has a head full of rocks and serious questions about his BBIQ. Don't think I take that at #19.

I temporarily took you off ignore to check out this post. According to who? That's a pretty nasty thing to say.

I’ve seen quite a few websites seriously question his BBIQ on both ends of the court. And after watching 3-4 LSU games, I see what they’re talking about. He has zero discipline on either end. On offense, his entire game is putting his head down and going right. Won’t work in the NBA, especially with his awful assist/TO ratio. On defense, elite athleticism but kinda just roams.

As far as a head of box of rocks. There were a few Twitter posts that said he wasn’t coming across well in interviews at the beginning of the draft process. None from really reputable sources and no reputable source would put that out there even if they heard it. I’m guessing no green room invite means could be true.

I might still take him at 19 because his physical tools are so great. But we are a team with such a low BBIQ already. Meh. Souchan/Dyson, on the other hand, I’d love to move up a few spots for if they slide. Both Uber high BBIQ.

Thanks for the reply. His stats are flat out amazing to go with the big/strong/athletic. He shoots well from the line and 3 as well as being an inside force.

2021-22 PER GAME AVERAGES
33 Games
24.4 MPG
5.8-11.1 FG
.521 FG%
0.8-2.4 3s
.359 3%
4.6-5.7 FTs
.803 FT%
6.6 Rebounds
1.0 Assists (black hole)
1.1 Blocks
1.9 Steals GREAT
2.2 TOs Good
2.8 Fouls Good
16.9 Points

I like looking at the actual stats, but if you look at the per 36 those numbers are off the charts.

I'm still on his bandwagon.

[SO_MONEY]

I temporarily took you off ignore to check out this post. According to who? That's a pretty nasty thing to say.

There was a report out about it, that film sessions DID NOT GO WELL. Why even ask me who said it? Look it up if you don't believe me. Just keep me on ignore if you value my posts to the point you just want to question them and accuse me of being "nasty" for no reason. Thanks.

I didn't accuse you of being nasty. I was accusing whoever said "he has a head full of rocks" of being nasty. That's why I asked you who said it. IF nobody but you actually said that then yes you were the one being nasty. I get using colorful language in posts, but it should be remembered that players are people too. Very rude is what I should have said instead of nasty.

Get over yourself.

What I said and how I said it (tongue in cheek) is far tamer than clinically going about hinting he is stupid as reports did. The things you take offense to...

Please save your lectures and don't drag me into your feelings in the future as I don't share them and you are not going to change my moral foundations.Thanks.

[jpatrick]

I temporarily took you off ignore to check out this post. According to who? That's a pretty nasty thing to say.

I’ve seen quite a few websites seriously question his BBIQ on both ends of the court. And after watching 3-4 LSU games, I see what they’re talking about. He has zero discipline on either end. On offense, his entire game is putting his head down and going right. Won’t work in the NBA, especially with his awful assist/TO ratio. On defense, elite athleticism but kinda just roams.

As far as a head of box of rocks. There were a few Twitter posts that said he wasn’t coming across well in interviews at the beginning of the draft process. None from really reputable sources and no reputable source would put that out there even if they heard it. I’m guessing no green room invite means could be true.

I might still take him at 19 because his physical tools are so great. But we are a team with such a low BBIQ already. Meh. Souchan/Dyson, on the other hand, I’d love to move up a few spots for if they slide. Both Uber high BBIQ.

Thanks for the reply. His stats are flat out amazing to go with the big/strong/athletic. He shoots well from the line and 3 as well as being an inside force.

2021-22 PER GAME AVERAGES
33 Games
24.4 MPG
5.8-11.1 FG
.521 FG%
0.8-2.4 3s
.359 3%
4.6-5.7 FTs
.803 FT%
6.6 Rebounds
1.0 Assists (black hole)
1.1 Blocks
1.9 Steals GREAT
2.2 TOs Good
2.8 Fouls Good
16.9 Points

I like looking at the actual stats, but if you look at the per 36 those numbers are off the charts.

I'm still on his bandwagon.

I might still take a chance at 19 if he interviews well here and Finch thinks he can learn the system. Physical tools are perfect for a modern forward. Most disappointing I’ve been watching a player though. I saw little skill that will translate. Even his jumper is so ugly I don’t think it’ll work against NBA length and farther three point line.

That length and athleticism though. It’s nice.

[Klomp]

Players MIN has worked out, from hoopshype:

16 Tari Eason SF LSU So
19 Jalen Williams PG Santa Clara Jr
20 EJ Liddell PF Ohio State Jr
21 Nikola Jovic SF Mega Basket (Serbia) 03
23 MarJon Beauchamp SG G League Ignite 00
24 Jaden Hardy SG G League Ignite 02
31 Bryce McGowens SG Nebraska Fr
36 Christian Braun SG Kansas Jr
45 Jean Montero PG Overtime Elite 03
46 Justin Lewis PF Marquette Fr
48 JD Davison PG Alabama Fr
49 David Roddy SF Colorado State Jr
55 Dereon Seabron SG North Carolina St So
58 Keon Ellis SG Alabama Sr
60 Dominick Barlow PF Overtime Elite 03
61 Julian Champagnie SF St. John's Jr
69 Jordan Hall SF St. Joseph's So
74 Aminu Mohammed SG Georgetown Fr

NR James Akinjo PG Baylor Jr
NR Justin Bean SF Utah State Sr
NR Brad Davison SG Wisconsin Sr
NR Tyson Etienne PG Wichita State So
NR Savion Flagg SG Sam Houston Sr
NR Jacob Gilyard PG Richmond Sr
NR Jeriah Horne SF Tulsa Sr
NR Theo John PF Duke Sr
NR Kalob Ledoux SG Santa Cruz (G League) 97
NR Brady Manek PF North Carolina Sr
NR Fatts Russell PG Maryland Sr
NR Jermaine Samuels SF Villanova Sr
NR Kerwin Walton SF North Carolina So
NR Donovan Williams SG UNLV Jr
NR Lucas Williamson SG Loyola Chicago Sr
NR Payton Willis PG Minnesota Sr
NR Fanbo Zeng PF G League Ignite 03

That's not a complete list. Two others....

Wendell Moore
Ismael Kamagate

Also interviewed a bunch at combine who might not make it to town.

[KGdaBom]

There was a report out about it, that film sessions DID NOT GO WELL. Why even ask me who said it? Look it up if you don't believe me. Just keep me on ignore if you value my posts to the point you just want to question them and accuse me of being "nasty" for no reason. Thanks.

I didn't accuse you of being nasty. I was accusing whoever said "he has a head full of rocks" of being nasty. That's why I asked you who said it. IF nobody but you actually said that then yes you were the one being nasty. I get using colorful language in posts, but it should be remembered that players are people too. Very rude is what I should have said instead of nasty.

Get over yourself.

What I said and how I said it (tongue in cheek) is far tamer than clinically going about hinting he is stupid as reports did. The things you take offense to...

Please save your lectures and don't drag me into your feelings in the future as I don't share them and you are not going to change my moral foundations.Thanks.

You just reminded me of why I had you on ignore. If you think saying somebody has a "head full or rocks" is tame............

[KGdaBom]

I’ve seen quite a few websites seriously question his BBIQ on both ends of the court. And after watching 3-4 LSU games, I see what they’re talking about. He has zero discipline on either end. On offense, his entire game is putting his head down and going right. Won’t work in the NBA, especially with his awful assist/TO ratio. On defense, elite athleticism but kinda just roams.

As far as a head of box of rocks. There were a few Twitter posts that said he wasn’t coming across well in interviews at the beginning of the draft process. None from really reputable sources and no reputable source would put that out there even if they heard it. I’m guessing no green room invite means could be true.

I might still take him at 19 because his physical tools are so great. But we are a team with such a low BBIQ already. Meh. Souchan/Dyson, on the other hand, I’d love to move up a few spots for if they slide. Both Uber high BBIQ.

Thanks for the reply. His stats are flat out amazing to go with the big/strong/athletic. He shoots well from the line and 3 as well as being an inside force.

2021-22 PER GAME AVERAGES
33 Games
24.4 MPG
5.8-11.1 FG
.521 FG%
0.8-2.4 3s
.359 3%
4.6-5.7 FTs
.803 FT%
6.6 Rebounds
1.0 Assists (black hole)
1.1 Blocks
1.9 Steals GREAT
2.2 TOs Good
2.8 Fouls Good
16.9 Points

I like looking at the actual stats, but if you look at the per 36 those numbers are off the charts.

I'm still on his bandwagon.

I might still take a chance at 19 if he interviews well here and Finch thinks he can learn the system. Physical tools are perfect for a modern forward. Most disappointing I’ve been watching a player though. I saw little skill that will translate. Even his jumper is so ugly I don’t think it’ll work against NBA length and farther three point line.

That length and athleticism though. It’s nice.

I never thought Melo Ball's ugly shot was going to work in the NBA, but somehow they go in.

[SO_MONEY]

I didn't accuse you of being nasty. I was accusing whoever said "he has a head full of rocks" of being nasty. That's why I asked you who said it. IF nobody but you actually said that then yes you were the one being nasty. I get using colorful language in posts, but it should be remembered that players are people too. Very rude is what I should have said instead of nasty.

Get over yourself.

What I said and how I said it (tongue in cheek) is far tamer than clinically going about hinting he is stupid as reports did. The things you take offense to...

Please save your lectures and don't drag me into your feelings in the future as I don't share them and you are not going to change my moral foundations.Thanks.

You just reminded me of why I had you on ignore. If you think saying somebody has a "head full or rocks" is tame............

It is tamer than being brutal, pointed and direct...

Especially given I don't know if it is true, which is why I said "apparently"... and that should set the tone and context. You just want to argue. Don't come to me with this pointless crap I don't have the patience or inclination to put up with it. I did nothing wrong. Thanks.

[Norseman79]

What seems stupid is very few PGs and very few PF/C seem to be worked out. And I am referring to ranked ones.

[Klomp]

What seems stupid is very few PGs and very few PF/C seem to be worked out. And I am referring to ranked ones.

There are a couple of things I read into this.

First of all, Finch doesn't really use true traditional PGs. McLaughlin is about the only one and he barely got time on the court because we have Russell and Beverley in front of him.

Second of all, if you are looking at those as the biggest positional needs, I think it speaks to the philosophy of not drafting to fill needs. Use free agency and trades to fill your needs, especially when situated later in the round.

[shangrila]

I’m guessing the same … Connelly likely had an eye for him and they are gonna show him up haha and force him to make a move… who knows

I saw a rumour that the Nuggets love Roddy, so if true he's probably #30.

If they want Jovic they can probably get him at #21.

Not if we take him at 19.

Gross.

[shangrila]

What seems stupid is very few PGs and very few PF/C seem to be worked out. And I am referring to ranked ones.

There are a couple of things I read into this.

First of all, Finch doesn't really use true traditional PGs. McLaughlin is about the only one and he barely got time on the court because we have Russell and Beverley in front of him.

Second of all, if you are looking at those as the biggest positional needs, I think it speaks to the philosophy of not drafting to fill needs. Use free agency and trades to fill your needs, especially when situated later in the round.

I mean, they've worked out Montero, Davison and Hardy (if you think he's a scoring PG), not to mention they interviewed Chandler (not sure if there's a workout planned). So they've looked into most of the PGs in the draft so far, the only glaring omission would be Washington and maybe Terry.

In regards to how Finch uses PGs, he basically laid out what he wants when he was discussing the JMac/DLo thing; he wants a PG that gets the ball up the floor quickly, gets the team into their sets, then moves off ball and can make plays as a secondary playmaker when/if the ball comes back to him. I think this is why DLo chafes a bit there because he's more of a hold it, hunt for a "good" shot kind of guy.

And I don't get the PF/C comment. Cs, sure, but I doubt many if any of the top guys are trying to get drafted here due to lack of opportunity. PFs, we've worked out Liddell, Eason and Jovic, who are all the guys ranked around #19. If people are upset we haven't worked out guys like Williams or Sochan...uh, it takes 2 to tango there. You can't force someone to come in for a workout and we're far enough removed from the lottery that it makes little sense for those guys to bother coming here.

[KGdaBom]

I saw a rumour that the Nuggets love Roddy, so if true he's probably #30.

If they want Jovic they can probably get him at #21.

Not if we take him at 19.

Gross.

You don't like him. I think a lot of people do. He will go somewhere between 15-25 I'm guessing. We are right n the middle of that. I'm not saying we should or shouldn't take him.

[moss_is_1]

We really don't need much of a traditional PG under finch. Ant and KAT will have the ball a lot, but we do still need ball-handlers.

Couple guys who could be sneaky good gets that could play some PG.

Dalen Terry - Has sort of an Iggy type game, shaky jumper but can handle and defend. Unfortunately seems his stock is going into the top 20ish area, so would have to use 19 on him now.
Wendell Moore - Jack of all trades guard
Alondes Williams - someone mentioned him earlier, think he has some of the best court vision in the draft, very good size so can play a combo guard role, however he is older(will be 23), and his jumper is weak from 3.

[Mattya]

Interesting Eason isn't in the green room. Would be real happy if we could grab him.

He seems like a great fit for us. Tankathon has him going 15th.

Apparently he has a head full of rocks and serious questions about his BBIQ. Don't think I take that at #19.

I’d go and look back at what the “experts” were saying during the 2020 draft. There were a ton of attitude concerns raised by them for Jaden, they didn’t even think Edwards liked basketball or could be a winner.

[SO_MONEY]

He seems like a great fit for us. Tankathon has him going 15th.

Apparently he has a head full of rocks and serious questions about his BBIQ. Don't think I take that at #19.

I’d go and look back at what the “experts” were saying during the 2020 draft. There were a ton of attitude concerns raised by them for Jaden, they didn’t even think Edwards liked basketball or could be a winner.

Ti put it shortly the main claim is across multiple teams that he couldn't explain simple concepts when watching tape and that he had very poor interviews. This did or did not happen compared to the more speculative you referenced above. Could be BS, but if it isn't there will be a reason teams may not have him very high.