Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect

[A_dub06]

Sad to hear we appear higher on Mutharin than Sharpe. Hopefully sharpe falls further and we can trade Grant to get him on our roster using him.

It's not sad to hear if Mathurin ends up better than Sharpe.

Obviously lol, but we don’t know that he will. And I’m much higher on Sharpes potential than Mutharin and Murray’s for that matter in the long term, but short term both will be better than Sharpe. We aren’t competing next year imo which is exactly why Sharpe should be the play

[Kalamazoo317]

Sad to hear we appear higher on Mutharin than Sharpe. Hopefully sharpe falls further and we can trade Grant to get him on our roster using him.

It's not sad to hear if Mathurin ends up better than Sharpe.

Obviously lol, but we don’t know that he will. And I’m much higher on Sharpes potential than Mutharin and Murray’s for that matter in the long term, but short term both will be better than Sharpe. We aren’t competing next year imo which is exactly why Sharpe should be the play

And we don't know that he won't. So just seems weird to get sad about it in advance.

[Jsindto]

I am really starting to get the feeling that Ivey is gonna break up the concensus top 3. If thats the case, Weaver needs to get in on that Sacramento pick, as it's known they are shopping it. Weaver has a bunch of assets that would absolutely fit, and help Sacramento win now.

Things could get really damn interesting come draft night.

Meh if I'm Sacramento I'd rather have any of the top 3 over all these so called assets we have (who?). I can understand them not being as interested in Ivey cause they have a guy so similar already in fox but banchero, smith, or Chet seem like good fits.

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Smith and Chet are great fits next to Sabonis. Paolo is definitely their #3 choice if we're talking fit for their team.

Having said that, I agree with you. I'd just take Paolo and see how it plays out. The only way I would consider a Grant and #5 for #4 would be if A) they think Murray can play a good amount at the 3, and B) they like Murray a lot, even if slightly less than Paolo.

[mattao313]

What's y'all thoughts on Ousmane Dieng? I wouldn't touch him at 5 but if we got a 2nd pick he's kinda interesting. 6'10 with some budding ball skills and good looking jumper.

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[A_dub06]

It's not sad to hear if Mathurin ends up better than Sharpe.

Obviously lol, but we don’t know that he will. And I’m much higher on Sharpes potential than Mutharin and Murray’s for that matter in the long term, but short term both will be better than Sharpe. We aren’t competing next year imo which is exactly why Sharpe should be the play

And we don't know that he won't. So just seems weird to get sad about it in advance.

It’s not weird when I think it’s the wrong direction the team should go in, and it’s not like it’s ruining my day. It’s more of a negative acknowledgment

[Kalamazoo317]

Obviously lol, but we don’t know that he will. And I’m much higher on Sharpes potential than Mutharin and Murray’s for that matter in the long term, but short term both will be better than Sharpe. We aren’t competing next year imo which is exactly why Sharpe should be the play

And we don't know that he won't. So just seems weird to get sad about it in advance.

It’s not weird when I think it’s the wrong direction the team should go in, and it’s not like it’s ruining my day. It’s more of a negative acknowledgment

You probably just have a lot more faith in your scouting ability than I do in mine (or anyone's on this board). Whoever Weaver picks, I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt that they're the right pick until play on the court shows me otherwise.

[The Moose]

https://www.espn.com.au/nba/insider/story/_/id/34089687/2022-nba-mock-draft-first-round-changes-include-lottery-movement

4. Sacramento Kings

Jaden Ivey
Purdue
PG/SG
Age: 20.3

The Kings aren't Ivey's preferred destination but have proved willing to take players without the benefit of workouts and medical information in the past, doing so as recently as a year ago when selecting Davion Mitchell. Many around the NBA feel that this pick is available for a team looking to swap picks and move up the draft for Ivey. Detroit, Indiana and Oklahoma City are among those that could potentially exchange an asset to help the Kings' chances of contending for a playoff spot, with the likes of Jerami Grant, Myles Turner and Lu Dort a few potential options that rival teams point to. In the event that the Kings elect to hold on to this pick and prefer to avoid the drama associated with picking a player against his camp's will, the candidacy of Keegan Murray might be gaining steam with head coach-to-be Mike Brown. Owner Vivek Ranadive is also said to be a proponent of selecting him.

Sounds like Ivey isn’t working out/ speaking to the kings

[rmfc]

https://www.espn.com.au/nba/insider/story/_/id/34089687/2022-nba-mock-draft-first-round-changes-include-lottery-movement

4. Sacramento Kings

Jaden Ivey
Purdue
PG/SG
Age: 20.3

The Kings aren't Ivey's preferred destination but have proved willing to take players without the benefit of workouts and medical information in the past, doing so as recently as a year ago when selecting Davion Mitchell. Many around the NBA feel that this pick is available for a team looking to swap picks and move up the draft for Ivey. Detroit, Indiana and Oklahoma City are among those that could potentially exchange an asset to help the Kings' chances of contending for a playoff spot, with the likes of Jerami Grant, Myles Turner and Lu Dort a few potential options that rival teams point to. In the event that the Kings elect to hold on to this pick and prefer to avoid the drama associated with picking a player against his camp's will, the candidacy of Keegan Murray might be gaining steam with head coach-to-be Mike Brown. Owner Vivek Ranadive is also said to be a proponent of selecting him.

Sounds like Ivey isn’t working out/ speaking to the kings

Looks like there may be a good chance of Ivey dropping to #5.

[Manocad]

https://www.espn.com.au/nba/insider/story/_/id/34089687/2022-nba-mock-draft-first-round-changes-include-lottery-movement

4. Sacramento Kings

Jaden Ivey
Purdue
PG/SG
Age: 20.3

The Kings aren't Ivey's preferred destination but have proved willing to take players without the benefit of workouts and medical information in the past, doing so as recently as a year ago when selecting Davion Mitchell. Many around the NBA feel that this pick is available for a team looking to swap picks and move up the draft for Ivey. Detroit, Indiana and Oklahoma City are among those that could potentially exchange an asset to help the Kings' chances of contending for a playoff spot, with the likes of Jerami Grant, Myles Turner and Lu Dort a few potential options that rival teams point to. In the event that the Kings elect to hold on to this pick and prefer to avoid the drama associated with picking a player against his camp's will, the candidacy of Keegan Murray might be gaining steam with head coach-to-be Mike Brown. Owner Vivek Ranadive is also said to be a proponent of selecting him.

Sounds like Ivey isn’t working out/ speaking to the kings

Looks like there may be a good chance of Ivey dropping to #5.

How can that be when he's currently at -300 for the #4 pick on Draft Kings? Doesn't that mean he's a lock at #4?

No problem. Let the Kings take Murray, the Pistons take Ivey then do a sign and trade with Grant for Ayton. I'd be happy with that; Cade, Ivey and Ayton sounds like a pretty good core to build around to me. Or swap Grant for another first rounder and whatever filler back to make it work; I'd be cool with that too.

[NYPiston]

My bet is that Ivey goes top 3 somewhere leaving a big at 4 - probably Paolo.

Would the Pistons trade something to get 4 for that big?

Jerami Grant + Diallo + 5 -------- for Harrison Barnes and 4.

Is Paolo that big of an upgrade from Keegan/Sharpe/Dyson to dump Grant in the process?

I'm not big on Banchero's fit here (he's kind of a ball movement stopper) but If Weaver sees star potential in him you almost have to take that swing, but I don't see Weaver sacrificing Grant to move up one spot unless Chet drops to 4 somehow. I also don't see the Kings adding Barnes in that scenario.

In any event, I think all this talk of one of The Big 3 dropping is just typical pre-draft smoke that never materializes especially in this case where none of the top 3 teams even have a need for a guard like Ivey.
I think the top 3/likely top 5 is close to locked in with the 3 bigs going first then Ivey (to the Kings or somebody else) then Murray. Then again, I didn't see Suggs dropping to 5 last year so who knows.

[rmfc]

https://www.espn.com.au/nba/insider/story/_/id/34089687/2022-nba-mock-draft-first-round-changes-include-lottery-movement



Sounds like Ivey isn’t working out/ speaking to the kings

Looks like there may be a good chance of Ivey dropping to #5.

How can that be when he's currently at -300 for the #4 pick on Draft Kings? Doesn't that mean he's a lock at #4?

No problem. Let the Kings take Murray, the Pistons take Ivey then do a sign and trade with Grant for Ayton. I'd be happy with that; Cade, Ivey and Ayton sounds like a pretty good core to build around to me. Or swap Grant for another first rounder and whatever filler back to make it work; I'd be cool with that too.

Ivey - Cade backcourt has the potential to be scary good for a long time. I really hope that Ivey drops to the Pistons.

[NYPiston]

https://www.espn.com.au/nba/insider/story/_/id/34089687/2022-nba-mock-draft-first-round-changes-include-lottery-movement

4. Sacramento Kings

Jaden Ivey
Purdue
PG/SG
Age: 20.3

The Kings aren't Ivey's preferred destination but have proved willing to take players without the benefit of workouts and medical information in the past, doing so as recently as a year ago when selecting Davion Mitchell. Many around the NBA feel that this pick is available for a team looking to swap picks and move up the draft for Ivey. Detroit, Indiana and Oklahoma City are among those that could potentially exchange an asset to help the Kings' chances of contending for a playoff spot, with the likes of Jerami Grant, Myles Turner and Lu Dort a few potential options that rival teams point to. In the event that the Kings elect to hold on to this pick and prefer to avoid the drama associated with picking a player against his camp's will, the candidacy of Keegan Murray might be gaining steam with head coach-to-be Mike Brown. Owner Vivek Ranadive is also said to be a proponent of selecting him.

Sounds like Ivey isn’t working out/ speaking to the kings

I saw an Ivey interview somewhere where they mentioned where he'd like to play and Ivey mentioned the Pistons and Pacers, partially due to his mother's connection to the cities and with Indianapolis being near home. No mention of Sacramento. Makes me think that this pick will be traded because I'm sure there will be teams salivating to get Ivey (Knicks immediately come to mind, maybe the Pacers to get the hometown kid).

Here it is...

Spun: Are there any specific teams that you think you might end up going to or any places that might seem like a really good fit?
JI: I would love to go anywhere, but Detroit, my mom [Notre Dame head women's basketball coach Niele Ivey] played for the Detroit Shock in the WNBA. I've lived in the area and I know what it's like. Detroit [which picks fifth overall] could be an option.

The Pacers [who pick sixth], my mom played with the Indiana Fever. I'm kind of familiar with that organization. If they pick me on draft night it would be an honor. Just being from Indiana and living there my whole life, that would be amazing."

[The Moose]

https://www.espn.com.au/nba/insider/story/_/id/34089687/2022-nba-mock-draft-first-round-changes-include-lottery-movement

4. Sacramento Kings

Jaden Ivey
Purdue
PG/SG
Age: 20.3

The Kings aren't Ivey's preferred destination but have proved willing to take players without the benefit of workouts and medical information in the past, doing so as recently as a year ago when selecting Davion Mitchell. Many around the NBA feel that this pick is available for a team looking to swap picks and move up the draft for Ivey. Detroit, Indiana and Oklahoma City are among those that could potentially exchange an asset to help the Kings' chances of contending for a playoff spot, with the likes of Jerami Grant, Myles Turner and Lu Dort a few potential options that rival teams point to. In the event that the Kings elect to hold on to this pick and prefer to avoid the drama associated with picking a player against his camp's will, the candidacy of Keegan Murray might be gaining steam with head coach-to-be Mike Brown. Owner Vivek Ranadive is also said to be a proponent of selecting him.

Sounds like Ivey isn’t working out/ speaking to the kings

I saw an Ivey interview somewhere where they mentioned where he'd like to play and Ivey mentioned the Pistons and Pacers, partially due to his mother's connection to the cities and with Indianapolis being near home. No mention of Sacramento. Makes me think that this pick will be traded because I'm sure there will be teams salivating to get Ivey (Knicks immediately come to mind, maybe the Pacers to get the hometown kid).

Here it is...

Spun: Are there any specific teams that you think you might end up going to or any places that might seem like a really good fit?
JI: I would love to go anywhere, but Detroit, my mom [Notre Dame head women's basketball coach Niele Ivey] played for the Detroit Shock in the WNBA. I've lived in the area and I know what it's like. Detroit [which picks fifth overall] could be an option.

The Pacers [who pick sixth], my mom played with the Indiana Fever. I'm kind of familiar with that organization. If they pick me on draft night it would be an honor. Just being from Indiana and living there my whole life, that would be amazing."

The conspiracy part of me thinks the Pistons really like Ivey, and thats why they are signalling hard for Keegan. If the Kings really like Keegan in a trade down scenario, that would take the Pacers off the table since Keegan wouldn't be available at pick 6

[NYPiston]

The conspiracy part of me thinks the Pistons really like Ivey, and thats why they are signalling hard for Keegan. If the Kings really like Keegan in a trade down scenario, that would take the Pacers off the table since Keegan wouldn't be available at pick 6

I fully believe that Weaver likes Murray, he's the type of player/character that Weaver seems to gravitate towards but I also believe that they might not be as high on Ivey based on their alleged interest in efficient scorers in Brunson and Sexton. I could see a scenario where Ivey drops to 5 and they take Mathurin (assuming Murray is gone at 4) because he's the better shooter.

[The Moose]

The conspiracy part of me thinks the Pistons really like Ivey, and thats why they are signalling hard for Keegan. If the Kings really like Keegan in a trade down scenario, that would take the Pacers off the table since Keegan wouldn't be available at pick 6

I fully believe that Weaver likes Murray, he's the type of player/character that Weaver seems to gravitate towards but I also believe that they might not be as high on Ivey based on their alleged interest in efficient scorers in Brunson and Sexton. I could see a scenario where Ivey drops to 5 and they take Mathurin (assuming Murray is gone at 4) because he's the better shooter.

hmm, to me that is signalling that they are looking for a secondary creator at the other guard spot, to me that is much more Ivey than Mathurin

[Sort]

I'm still vibing with either Murray or Ivey. One point I would make is that I don't see Grant and Murray as exclusive from one another. This league is all about wings, and while I doubt both start, I do think they can play together, especially if Murray brings the defensive rebounding chops.

[flow]

Wasn't all the talk on here (or another thread) just yesterday that Ivey's going top 3? Now he's dropping to 5?

Time for the draft to just get here, already.

[NYPiston]

hmm, to me that is signalling that they are looking for a secondary creator at the other guard spot, to me that is much more Ivey than Mathurin

You could look at it that way especially in Brunson's case but I see Brunson and Sexton more as scorers/shooters than creators.

[vic]

The conspiracy part of me thinks the Pistons really like Ivey, and thats why they are signalling hard for Keegan. If the Kings really like Keegan in a trade down scenario, that would take the Pacers off the table since Keegan wouldn't be available at pick 6

I fully believe that Weaver likes Murray, he's the type of player/character that Weaver seems to gravitate towards but I also believe that they might not be as high on Ivey based on their alleged interest in efficient scorers in Brunson and Sexton. I could see a scenario where Ivey drops to 5 and they take Mathurin (assuming Murray is gone at 4) because he's the better shooter.

hmm, to me that is signalling that they are looking for a secondary creator at the other guard spot, to me that is much more Ivey than Mathurin

Makes sense… if you really want a small guard why not take the most athletic and explosive one. I never thought of that.

Personally I like Shaedon better tho

[bstein14]

I'm all in on staying at #5 and taking whichever one of Ivey or Murray is available to us. I'd be bummed if we used other assets to move up for someone else. I don't see any huge difference between Murray and Ivey as far as ceiling goes or floor goes. I think both are most likely good NBA starters and probably at most a 1 or 2 time all-star if things work out right but worst case for either is likely a good 6th man type.

I don't see either having real bust potential and I don't see either having real star power either.


If this was 2020 and we were near the beginning of the rebuild, Sharpe would make some sense for us wanting to be bad for another two seasons anyways... but Sharpe at this point isn't really a swing and a miss that Weaver can afford to make so he'd be betting his job with that pick.