Stephen Curry has been totally exposed (Part II)
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At this rate all of the "__________ has been exposed" threads are players who will be sure-fire 1st ballot HOF'ers.
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rtiff68 wrote:What player in the history of the league doesn’t have games where they don’t shoot the ball well?
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Well now I am curious.
We know there are guys like Deandre Jordan that only shoot easy shots but we were talking about Curry the greatest jump shooter of all tine but not the most consistent jump shooter of all time. I am a Warriors fan and watched Curry’s whole career. I was a Celtic fan and watched 90% of Bird’s Career missing the end by moving to California where I became a Chris Mullin fan. Bird was not consistent. I think Curry is more consistent than Bird was. Mullin might have been more consistent than Bird or Curry but Mullin would not be mr consistency. I wonder who the most consistant jump shooter was.
Steve Kerr the player was trusted to come in cold and hit open shots. I wonder of Kyle Korver ever had nights were he could not hit an open shot. I think I sort of remember Ray Allen having an off night.Reggie Miller had off nights. John Starks who used to battle with Reggie Miller was one of the most inconsistent shooters of all time.
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SinceGatlingWasARookie wrote:rtiff68 wrote:What player in the history of the league doesn’t have games where they don’t shoot the ball well?
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Well now I am curious.
We know there are guys like Deandre Jordan that only shoot easy shots but we were talking about Curry the greatest jump shooter of all tine but not the most consistent jump shooter of all time. I am a Warriors fan and watched Curry’s whole career. I was a Celtic fan and watched 90% of Bird’s Career missing the end by moving to California where I became a Chris Mullin fan. Bird was not consistent. I think Curry is more consistent than Bird was. Mullin might have been more consistent than Bird or Curry but Mullin would not be mr consistency. I wonder who the most consistant jump shooter was.
Steve Kerr the player was trusted to come in cold and hit open shots. I wonder of Kyle Korver ever had nights were he could not an open shot. I think I sort of remember Ray Allen having an off night.Reggie Miller had off nights. John Starks who used to battle with Reggie Miller was one of the most inconsistent shooters of all time.
Yeah. It's also hard to do a pure "apples-to-apples" comparison because all of those guy's roles were not exactly the same.
In addition to the fact that all shooters have slumps/mini-slumps, I think Steph is sometimes a victim of his success. More than any shooter I've ever watched, I expect every shot he takes to go in. Based upon the standard he's set and expectations that come with it, it's all the more glaring when he doesn't shoot well, especially in a high leverage situation.
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nfmos wrote:JN61 wrote:Certain fanbase not acknowledging Curry has games like this every now and then and especially in finals are one of the reasons why he gets so much backlash from general NBA fanbase.
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Case in point.
Pennebaker wrote:And Bird did it while being a defensive liability. But he also made All-Defensive teams, which was another controversial issue regarding Bird and votes.
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No he hasn't... Picking handful of plays half which are Marcus Smart is not sign of a good defense in this serie, really the opposite if they can't find any other plays than vs Smart...
Pennebaker wrote:And Bird did it while being a defensive liability. But he also made All-Defensive teams, which was another controversial issue regarding Bird and votes.
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No he hasn't... Picking handful of plays half which are Marcus Smart is not sign of a good defense in this serie, really the opposite if they can't find any other plays than vs Smart...
How about the other half where he's guarding Jaylen Brown? The starting guards (Smart and Brown) are going to be Steph's most common matchups in this series (along with Derrick White) so they're going to make up a lot of his defensive game tape in terms of guarding man to man.
Give it up man. You don't like the idea of Steph getting defensive kudos. That's all I see here. Deny all you want but we're all watching these games and noticing Steph's defense ain't bad.
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cupcakesnake wrote:JN61 wrote:
No he hasn't... Picking handful of plays half which are Marcus Smart is not sign of a good defense in this serie, really the opposite if they can't find any other plays than vs Smart...
How about the other half where he's guarding Jaylen Brown? The starting guards (Smart and Brown) are going to be Steph's most common matchups in this series (along with Derrick White) so they're going to make up a lot of his defensive game tape in terms of guarding man to man.
Give it up man. You don't like the idea of Steph getting defensive kudos. That's all I see here. Deny all you want but we're all watching these games and noticing Steph's defense ain't bad.
The Warriors’ were #1 in defense this season at a 107 rating. Steph’s was 108. Their rating in the playoffs is 112, his is 111.
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The reason the raptors did so well against Curry in the finals is because Nurse's gameplan was to attack him constantly and then also glue FVV to him on offense. He was gassed against Toronto.
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cupcakesnake wrote:JN61 wrote:
No he hasn't... Picking handful of plays half which are Marcus Smart is not sign of a good defense in this serie, really the opposite if they can't find any other plays than vs Smart...
How about the other half where he's guarding Jaylen Brown? The starting guards (Smart and Brown) are going to be Steph's most common matchups in this series (along with Derrick White) so they're going to make up a lot of his defensive game tape in terms of guarding man to man.
Give it up man. You don't like the idea of Steph getting defensive kudos. That's all I see here. Deny all you want but we're all watching these games and noticing Steph's defense ain't bad.
Curry has the worst opponent FG% (highest) on his team vs Celtics who have played over 20 minutes. 2nd worst out of players who have played over 15 minutes in this serie. He also has 2nd worst opponent 3 point %. at staggering 43.4%. Curry also has the worst defensive rating out of players who play meaningful minutes. Clearly so out of starters the worst defender.
He is constantly getting blown past and put into isolation situations. He has been part of what, like 200-300 plays? And having handful of defensive plays (half which were actually spotted by Green stepping to help) which can be considered defensive effort is showcase of good defense? Give me a break...
If you want to give him credit give him credit for being masterful on offensive side (minus 1 game and 2x 4th quarters). But his defense is certainly been poor in this serie as a whole.
Pennebaker wrote:And Bird did it while being a defensive liability. But he also made All-Defensive teams, which was another controversial issue regarding Bird and votes.
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JN61 wrote:nfmos wrote:JN61 wrote:Certain fanbase not acknowledging Curry has games like this every now and then and especially in finals are one of the reasons why he gets so much backlash from general NBA fanbase.
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Case in point.
I don't think you understand what "case in point" means...
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JN61 wrote:cupcakesnake wrote:JN61 wrote:No he hasn't... Picking handful of plays half which are Marcus Smart is not sign of a good defense in this serie, really the opposite if they can't find any other plays than vs Smart...
How about the other half where he's guarding Jaylen Brown? The starting guards (Smart and Brown) are going to be Steph's most common matchups in this series (along with Derrick White) so they're going to make up a lot of his defensive game tape in terms of guarding man to man.
Give it up man. You don't like the idea of Steph getting defensive kudos. That's all I see here. Deny all you want but we're all watching these games and noticing Steph's defense ain't bad.
Curry has the worst opponent FG% (highest) on his team vs Celtics who have played over 20 minutes. 2nd worst out of players who have played over 15 minutes in this serie. He also has 2nd worst opponent 3 point %. at staggering 43.4%. Curry also has the worst defensive rating out of players who play meaningful minutes. Clearly so out of starters the worst defender.
He is constantly getting blown past and put into isolation situations. He has been part of what, like 200-300 plays? And having handful of defensive plays (half which were actually spotted by Green stepping to help) which can be considered defensive effort is showcase of good defense? Give me a break...
If you want to give him credit give him credit for being masterful on offensive side (minus 1 game and 2x 4th quarters). But his defense is certainly been poor in this serie as a whole.
bull. Go to nba.com matchups and look. All numbers say otherway
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JN61 wrote:
No he hasn't... Picking handful of plays half which are Marcus Smart is not sign of a good defense in this serie, really the opposite if they can't find any other plays than vs Smart...
Lol wut?!? Who should he be guarding... Robert Williams? These posts get dumber by the day.
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SpreeS wrote:JN61 wrote:cupcakesnake wrote:
How about the other half where he's guarding Jaylen Brown? The starting guards (Smart and Brown) are going to be Steph's most common matchups in this series (along with Derrick White) so they're going to make up a lot of his defensive game tape in terms of guarding man to man.
Give it up man. You don't like the idea of Steph getting defensive kudos. That's all I see here. Deny all you want but we're all watching these games and noticing Steph's defense ain't bad.
Curry has the worst opponent FG% (highest) on his team vs Celtics who have played over 20 minutes. 2nd worst out of players who have played over 15 minutes in this serie. He also has 2nd worst opponent 3 point %. at staggering 43.4%. Curry also has the worst defensive rating out of players who play meaningful minutes. Clearly so out of starters the worst defender.
He is constantly getting blown past and put into isolation situations. He has been part of what, like 200-300 plays? And having handful of defensive plays (half which were actually spotted by Green stepping to help) which can be considered defensive effort is showcase of good defense? Give me a break...
If you want to give him credit give him credit for being masterful on offensive side (minus 1 game and 2x 4th quarters). But his defense is certainly been poor in this serie as a whole.
bull. Go to nba.com matchups and look. All numbers say otherway
These are from NBA.com
Pennebaker wrote:And Bird did it while being a defensive liability. But he also made All-Defensive teams, which was another controversial issue regarding Bird and votes.
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CharityStripe34 wrote:At this rate all of the "__________ has been exposed" threads are players who will be sure-fire 1st ballot HOF'ers.
Watch out! Alphabet-man exposed coming to an offseason thread near you, pal.

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GreatWhiteStiff wrote:CharityStripe34 wrote:At this rate all of the "__________ has been exposed" threads are players who will be sure-fire 1st ballot HOF'ers.
Watch out! Alphabet-man exposed coming to an offseason thread near you, pal.
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Curry way overrated. No way Warriors should have run through the western conference and now be up 3-2 against the best defensive team that ever lived.
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There is zero point in engaging with JN61 regarding Steph
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SpreeS wrote:JN61 wrote:cupcakesnake wrote:
How about the other half where he's guarding Jaylen Brown? The starting guards (Smart and Brown) are going to be Steph's most common matchups in this series (along with Derrick White) so they're going to make up a lot of his defensive game tape in terms of guarding man to man.
Give it up man. You don't like the idea of Steph getting defensive kudos. That's all I see here. Deny all you want but we're all watching these games and noticing Steph's defense ain't bad.
Curry has the worst opponent FG% (highest) on his team vs Celtics who have played over 20 minutes. 2nd worst out of players who have played over 15 minutes in this serie. He also has 2nd worst opponent 3 point %. at staggering 43.4%. Curry also has the worst defensive rating out of players who play meaningful minutes. Clearly so out of starters the worst defender.
He is constantly getting blown past and put into isolation situations. He has been part of what, like 200-300 plays? And having handful of defensive plays (half which were actually spotted by Green stepping to help) which can be considered defensive effort is showcase of good defense? Give me a break...
If you want to give him credit give him credit for being masterful on offensive side (minus 1 game and 2x 4th quarters). But his defense is certainly been poor in this serie as a whole.
bull. Go to nba.com matchups and look. All numbers say otherway
Why not just post the numbers? I'm way too lazy to use NBA.com's awful system today.
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dhsilv2 wrote:SpreeS wrote:JN61 wrote:Curry has the worst opponent FG% (highest) on his team vs Celtics who have played over 20 minutes. 2nd worst out of players who have played over 15 minutes in this serie. He also has 2nd worst opponent 3 point %. at staggering 43.4%. Curry also has the worst defensive rating out of players who play meaningful minutes. Clearly so out of starters the worst defender.
He is constantly getting blown past and put into isolation situations. He has been part of what, like 200-300 plays? And having handful of defensive plays (half which were actually spotted by Green stepping to help) which can be considered defensive effort is showcase of good defense? Give me a break...
If you want to give him credit give him credit for being masterful on offensive side (minus 1 game and 2x 4th quarters). But his defense is certainly been poor in this serie as a whole.
bull. Go to nba.com matchups and look. All numbers say otherway
Why not just post the numbers? I'm way too lazy to use NBA.com's awful system today.
Because he is writing nonsense to drive his own agenda. What I wrote are directly from NBA.com.
Pennebaker wrote:And Bird did it while being a defensive liability. But he also made All-Defensive teams, which was another controversial issue regarding Bird and votes.

