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Post#201 » by Apz » Tue Jun 14, 2022 2:14 am

BeiBeau wrote:One dude we don't talk about often but I'm really interested in is Marjon Beauchamp. His 3 ball isn't there but he has some of the best perimeter defense in the class, he's an excellent rebounder, and a freak athlete. He's also got an excellent motor and an insane work ethic so I think he will improve a lot. Unless he does a ton of work in the offseason and improves in his first season I don't think he's going to be a rotation player in the playoffs but in 3 years he could very well be a Mikal Bridges type or even 2013-15 Kawhi. At the very least if his 3 improves another 10-12% he would be one of the best 3-D guys in the league.


Why go dig up the josh green post from 3 years ago and change the name?

Kinda joking, but also kinda not. It does sound like josh. Imagine if he improved his 3 with 10-12%? Should be easier for him, arleast he shooting at nba 3 pt line already. I really dont like prospects that need to take giant leaps to be useful or add mandatory skills. Atleast u cant expect it and addinc bridges and kawhii just feels likd overkill
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Re: 2022 NBA DRAFT 

Post#202 » by BeiBeau » Tue Jun 14, 2022 5:24 am

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BeiBeau wrote:One dude we don't talk about often but I'm really interested in is Marjon Beauchamp. His 3 ball isn't there but he has some of the best perimeter defense in the class, he's an excellent rebounder, and a freak athlete. He's also got an excellent motor and an insane work ethic so I think he will improve a lot. Unless he does a ton of work in the offseason and improves in his first season I don't think he's going to be a rotation player in the playoffs but in 3 years he could very well be a Mikal Bridges type or even 2013-15 Kawhi. At the very least if his 3 improves another 10-12% he would be one of the best 3-D guys in the league.


Why go dig up the josh green post from 3 years ago and change the name?

Kinda joking, but also kinda not. It does sound like josh. Imagine if he improved his 3 with 10-12%? Should be easier for him, arleast he shooting at nba 3 pt line already. I really dont like prospects that need to take giant leaps to be useful or add mandatory skills. Atleast u cant expect it and addinc bridges and kawhii just feels likd overkill


Beauchamp is twice the defender right now than Green is today. 10-12% is a lot but dudes in the NBA do it over the early parts of their careers all the time. DFS 10% shoots more then he did in his rookie season. Kawhi went from 25% in college from 3 to 34% from 3 in his rookie season. Beauchamp shoots 80% from the charity stripe and his form isn't bad. He's also got and insane work ethic so I think he will make some big improvements.

This idea in the Mavs forums that we shouldn't draft a player because they remind us of Josh Green is dumb. Every player is different.
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Re: 2022 NBA DRAFT 

Post#203 » by ejs78 » Tue Jun 14, 2022 2:04 pm

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Re: 2022 NBA DRAFT 

Post#204 » by Apz » Tue Jun 14, 2022 10:39 pm

Gree. Why take a stash player today shen u have the g-league? Is just a pita with contracts and stuff
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Post#205 » by MrGoat » Wed Jun 15, 2022 1:57 am

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I mean, it's a #26 pick. Low odds of finding a game changer. Not much trade value with that pick either. It's damn near a second round pick. The team would need to cut someone just to make room for the rookie contract. So if one of the guys they like doesn't fall far enough then this would be the expected outcome
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Re: 2022 NBA DRAFT 

Post#206 » by ejs78 » Wed Jun 15, 2022 3:53 am

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I mean, it's a #26 pick. Low odds of finding a game changer. Not much trade value with that pick either. It's damn near a second round pick. The team would need to cut someone just to make room for the rookie contract. So if one of the guys they like doesn't fall far enough then this would be the expected outcome
Doesn't need to be a game changer. It just has do be someone to add the rotation whos a not a negative player in the playoffs.

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Post#207 » by arkuo » Wed Jun 15, 2022 5:24 pm

Ismael Kamagate looks interesting. Clint Capela was more raw when he applied for the draft. Capela was picked 25th in 2014 which is very similar to where Dallas is picking. Kamagate is only turning 22. So it might take a while to develop.

If you end the offseason with Kamagate - Hartenstein - Powell at center, I would say that's solid. Kleber can slide down to an off the bench role at PF.
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Post#208 » by Teffer10 » Wed Jun 15, 2022 11:15 pm

arkuo wrote:Ismael Kamagate looks interesting. Clint Capela was more raw when he applied for the draft. Capela was picked 25th in 2014 which is very similar to where Dallas is picking. Kamagate is only turning 22. So it might take a while to develop.

If you end the offseason with Kamagate - Hartenstein - Powell at center, I would say that's solid. Kleber can slide down to an off the bench role at PF.

I like Kamagate but I think we should trade back into the 2nd round to get him.
I also think Hartenstein is the perfect center we should target.
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Re: 2022 NBA DRAFT 

Post#209 » by Apz » Thu Jun 16, 2022 1:31 am

Need to buy some 2nds now
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Re: 2022 NBA DRAFT 

Post#210 » by BeiBeau » Thu Jun 16, 2022 7:16 am

Maybe a team might be looking to dump a player at the draft and will pay us to take someone into the TPE. Depending on the contract it could even be a first.
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Re: 2022 NBA DRAFT 

Post#211 » by 41Dirk41 » Thu Jun 16, 2022 7:35 am

Apz wrote:Need to buy some 2nds now


Yes, a couple of 2nds for some athletic wings or defensive Cs.
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Re: 2022 NBA DRAFT 

Post#212 » by arkuo » Thu Jun 16, 2022 8:07 am

I dont think the Mavs are into the draft anymore. Luka is ready to win NOW. And anyone you draft is still two years away from being ready. The empty roster spots will most likely be reserved for the buyout market or signing undrafted FA gems like DFS.

One thing that gives me confidence going forward with this is Nico seems to know what he's doing since Day 1. If we had Donnie steering the ship, we have reasons to be worried. But now it seems like the Mavs are in good, capable hands.
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Post#213 » by Dirkules » Thu Jun 16, 2022 8:19 am

arkuo wrote:The empty roster spots will most likely be reserved for the buyout market or signing undrafted FA gems like DFS.


I was already thinking of guys like Kofi Cockburn and Julian Champagnie as possible UDFA pickups after hearing about the trade. There will be options.
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Re: 2022 NBA DRAFT 

Post#214 » by arkuo » Thu Jun 16, 2022 8:21 am

Dirkules wrote:
arkuo wrote:The empty roster spots will most likely be reserved for the buyout market or signing undrafted FA gems like DFS.


I was already thinking of guys like Kofi Cockburn and Julian Champagnie as possible UDFA pickups after hearing about the trade. There will be options.



Exactly. Nico got rid of like 4 low cost guys. You need to replace those end of the bench guys with equally low cost options especially that Brunson will get them near hard cap territory.
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Re: 2022 NBA DRAFT 

Post#215 » by Mavrelous » Thu Jun 16, 2022 9:58 am

41Dirk41 wrote:
KhalilS wrote:
Pinkyring wrote:Grant doesn't move the needle enough to move a first, capela moves it slightly, Collins moves it but we don't have the pieces for him


It's the #23 pick man, not the 8th, if the 3Bs and one of Powell, Maxi or Bullock with the pick get you grant, you do it without thinking twice.


I have 0 faith in Nico keep that pick... We need ready player.

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Re: 2022 NBA DRAFT 

Post#216 » by SOUNDCHASER » Thu Jun 16, 2022 1:22 pm

well the trade got me excited there was no way we would draft anyone at 26 who was going to be a 20/10 guy. Now if we can still finagle a way to get someone to let us get a 2nd round pick I will be happy. We will need a center still because wood is really a cross between a pf and a sf at his size. You still need an enforcer type and for that duty I would love to grab Kofi Cockburn and he might be a decent rim protector if Kidd can coach him up. He is no 3 point threat but he can dunk it well enough around the basket and go through most of the wimpy centers that this league has now. Guys will think twice about attempting to drive for layups with him there to knock them on their rears.
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Post#217 » by SOUNDCHASER » Sat Jun 18, 2022 5:58 am

was checking stats on tankathon, and they say that Kofi Cockburn stats wise is a 24.5 PPG guy in the 36 minutes a game scenario and 12.4 RPG

Checking others per 36 minute stats I had to go backwards from 73 on the big board all the way to #9 Tauri Eason till I found another player who was going to show up with more PPG in that scenario. He and only Keegan Murray had been listed with a higher scoring output in the whole draft and they have him listed at 73.

Additionally only 3 players on the draft big board have a 36 minute per game rebounding rate higher than Kofi's 12.4 RPG w 36 mins

1 of those is Chet with 13.3 RPG and only 18.9 PPG

then at 61 6.875 Trevion Williams a 265# PF with 13.3 RPG and 21.4 PPG 5.4 AST
and at 65 Keneth Lofton Jr with 14 RPG at 6'7" and 275 he has a 22 PPG stat for 36 minutes 3.7 AST

I am really worried that Kofi will not go undrafted to be there when we get a shot at snagging someone.
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Re: 2022 NBA DRAFT 

Post#218 » by Darren » Sun Jun 19, 2022 11:23 am

41Dirk41 wrote:
Apz wrote:Need to buy some 2nds now


Yes, a couple of 2nds for some athletic wings or defensive Cs.


Most realistic ways to enhance the talents of roster. With a small cap hold, the Mavs could have something to build upon. With so many big or wings with long arms, it is a great draft to scramble for defenders.
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Re: 2022 NBA DRAFT 

Post#219 » by LukaSmile » Mon Jun 20, 2022 7:52 am

Since we're bringing up possible UDFAs now, how about Marcus Bingham Jr for a big off the bench if he goes undrafted?

F/C. 6-11" high level rim protector and rim running lob threat that brings solid shooting as well. He had to share minutes at Mich St. so he only averaged 11.9 minutes per game in college and is flying under the radar it seems. Am I missing something? Why is this kid not getting hardly any love at all?





Senior seasons per 40 minutes for comparison.

Bingham Jr.
Pts. Reb. Blk. Stl. FT% Ast. FG% 3PA 3P%
19.8 13.4 4.7 2.0 .747 0.5 .534 2.5 .415

Kofi Cockburn
Pts. Reb. Blk. Stl. FT% Ast. FG% 3PA 3P%
27.2 13.8 1.3 1.1 .655 1.6 .596 0.0 0.0
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Re: 2022 NBA DRAFT 

Post#220 » by ejs78 » Mon Jun 20, 2022 10:37 pm

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