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Re: Chuma vs RJ 

Post#21 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Sun Jun 12, 2022 1:51 pm

It’s like debating with your buddy whose taking home
the 6 and whose taking home the 5. They’re both extremely mediocre but someone’s gotta do it
A scoring guard.. never heard of one. :roll:
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Post#22 » by Ralof » Sun Jun 12, 2022 3:45 pm

JF5 wrote:Chuma is does everything you want. Obviously he struggled like many others in a new role and a completely different team. But as this team will have a lot more structure and actual hierarchy you'll see him thrive.

Hampton outside of his 3 point shot is useless and doesn't provide much else.


Hampton should not provide anything else,is a 3-D prospect,spot up shooting is what he should do all the time,sadly our lack of offensive hierarchy made him worse than he should be,letting him taking non-sense initiative.

what is a bit concerning it's his defence,with that physical chassis and our staff he had to be at a way more advanced point as a defender.

on okeke i agree,people too harsh on him,guy just need a full heatlhy season
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Post#23 » by VFX » Sun Jun 12, 2022 4:28 pm

MartinsIzAfraud wrote:It’s like debating with your buddy whose taking home
the 6 and whose taking home the 5. They’re both extremely mediocre but someone’s gotta do it


How old is the 6?

...kidding.
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Post#24 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Mon Jun 13, 2022 12:56 pm

MagicMatic wrote:
MartinsIzAfraud wrote:It’s like debating with your buddy whose taking home
the 6 and whose taking home the 5. They’re both extremely mediocre but someone’s gotta do it


How old is the 6?

...kidding.

hahah glad some people enjoyed the humor, times like these we all just need to breathe and be happy we've got #1
A scoring guard.. never heard of one. :roll:
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Post#25 » by drsd » Mon Jun 13, 2022 3:38 pm

It is unclear to me if Hampton will be in the NBA after this year. Okeke is a solid 10th man on most NBA rosters.
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Post#26 » by DiplomaticMagic » Thu Jun 16, 2022 7:50 am

Im still big fan of Chuma Okeke.
Keep Isaac
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Post#27 » by drsd » Thu Jun 16, 2022 11:53 am

DiplomaticMagic wrote:Im still big fan of Chuma Okeke.


He plays "the right way". So I also root for him.


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Post#28 » by pepe1991 » Fri Jun 17, 2022 9:37 am

i still can't let go fact that RJ Hampton played himself out of top 10 in draft with few games in professional leauge.
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Post#29 » by Magic_Kingdom » Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:43 pm

Definitely Chuma. He has better instincts and is able to create turnovers. He has potential as a 3-point shooter. But in reality they are both expendable at this point. Welt should lose a few of these young players and add a few vets to the mix. If they want to try to improve this season they don't need 11 guys on the roster 24 or younger.
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Post#30 » by tiderulz » Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:55 pm

Magic_Kingdom wrote:Definitely Chuma. He has better instincts and is able to create turnovers. He has potential as a 3-point shooter. But in reality they are both expendable at this point. Welt should lose a few of these young players and add a few vets to the mix. If they want to try to improve this season they don't need 11 guys on the roster 24 or younger.

to me,

RJ barely an NBA player right now.

Chuma is a bench player. you may get a good night from him, you may not. definition of a bench guy. if he isnt doing much, you sub him for a different bench guy
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Post#31 » by Magicman125 » Fri Jun 17, 2022 1:26 pm

Agree with the consensus, Chuma. RJ still plays too fast, needs to learn to let the game come to him, focus on D and corner 3s and attacking open north south lanes and/or cutting off ball for now. If he can tailor his game to that narrow role and find success, then he can start expanding his role from there, but gotta get the basics down first. Still doesn't know how to channel his athleticism into success at the moment.
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Post#32 » by yoyojw17 » Fri Jun 17, 2022 1:47 pm

Magicman125 wrote:Agree with the consensus, Chuma. RJ still plays too fast, needs to learn to let the game come to him, focus on D and corner 3s and attacking open north south lanes and/or cutting off ball for now. If he can tailor his game to that narrow role and find success, then he can start expanding his role from there, but gotta get the basics down first. Still doesn't know how to channel his athleticism into success at the moment.


Agreed. I still believe RJ has a lot in his bag that he needs to sort out.... and taking things in chunks would be best for him. He has everything to be a great defender on the perimeter for us... something we currently need more of... and the rest will pan out over time as the game slows down for him... and his responses to it become more natural and intentional.
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Post#33 » by Last Guardian » Fri Jun 17, 2022 2:14 pm

Chuma will probably end up as a great or even elite 3&D role player. His defense is very good if not stellar at times. Excellent instincts and good size for a F. Streaky shooting has been the biggest disappointment...he's either 0-6 or 5-7. If he can get more consistent shooting the ball he'll be a better version of Ariza. He would be my choice
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Post#34 » by AdamTheGreek » Fri Jun 17, 2022 3:03 pm

mattdelray1220 wrote:It seems like our F depth and guard depth (pending ross or FA signing) leaves Chuma and RJ out of the rotation.

Of the 2, who do you have more confidence in being able to crack the rotation at some point in the season? Who has more potential? Can either be a starter in the NBA? Curious on the boards thoughts.



I don’t agree with this premise at all. You don’t have to be a starter to be of huge value. Cole likely won’t be an NBA starter, but has a huge role for this team.

Hampton is not a point guard. He is a SG/SF who is already a good 3-point shooter. He’ll find plenty of opportunity if no Ross and/or Harris.

Chuma is a PF/SF and he’ll be backing up Franz and/or our pick with Isaac needing to prove he can stay on a court. If Okeke can stay healthy into training camp and the preseason, he’ll have a much better beginning than last season where he had to do a lot of catching up.
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Post#35 » by ChiefWiggumz » Fri Jun 17, 2022 3:20 pm

Chuma is a more complete player right now. I don't think we should give up on RJ though. He is still only 21. I'd throw a cheap extension his way and hope he develops. I think he be a good 3&D wing down the line. I don't think he is the electric guard we were all hoping for, but he can be a serviceable NBA player.
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Post#37 » by jonbob17 » Fri Jun 17, 2022 9:28 pm

Make or break year for both guys. Both are going to have to play their way into minutes, but i think there will be some for both. Ross needs to go to open some up, and there should be enough forward minutes especially if JI is eased back or is getting some time at 5.

Really had high expectations for both guys on both ends of the floor and have largely been disappointed by both guys on both ends. Okeke has been good on D, i was just expecting him to really great and more switchable.

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