Fake Klay banned from Chase Center for life

[dhsilv2]

Except for the fact that almosr everyone shown in his video that wasn't in on it was fooled...

Do you honestly think that security would have let BigDaws in if he walked up to that security line just dressed as himself (no makeup, facial hair shenanigans etc)?

Come on.

And plenty of players have walked into arenas wearing all sorts of stuff. BigDaws knowingly took advantage of it.

The reality is that the moment he saw that he was going to be let in by security he should have stopped and revealed himself and not proceeded to trespass.

Granted, it would have made his video way less interesting but you'd have to be a complete idiot to not know that you were doing something you aren't supposed to be doing.

Also I think it's absolutely hilarious that you think there's some sort of dress code required for NBA players entering facilities. Have you not watched any pregame shows in like the last decade??

Show me ONE nba player walking in wearing their basketball shorts and I'll agree with you. Just one!

Security should know what freaking Klay looks like...these aren't idiots on the street and if you watched the video, MULTIPLE people knew who it was lol. It's pathetic that security let this happen. PATHETIC! These people have actually seen klay, IN PERSON!!!!!!

How about spending 1% effort and do a google image search for "arriving at arena wearing shorts"? You'll see plenty players wearing shorts entering arenas.

It doesn't matter if security SHOULD have known better. Ignorance of security or feigned ignorance of rules by BigDaws does not excuse him from the fact that he still trespassed.

You're being dumb at this point honestly.

There have been plenty of stories of folks simply acting confident in situations where they weren't allowed to access areas they shouldn't be. Humans WANT to believe the best in people (even if they shouldn't). The fact that they erroneously let the guy in does not in any way erase the fact that BigDaws committed a crime.

OK I googled that, not a single image shows up. You couldn't provide one either. This wasn't a crime. And unlike "most humans", these people have the job of being security. They're supposed to ask the most basic of questions.

[ropjhk]

How will security keep him out if they can't tell him apart from the real Klay?

[LAL1947]

OK I googled that, not a single image shows up. You couldn't provide one either.

Not game shorts... but here you go.

Spoiler:

[dhsilv2]

OK I googled that, not a single image shows up. You couldn't provide one either.

Not game shorts... but here you go.

Spoiler:

No lebron in his suit shorts? I feel you missed a moment. Sure, players will wear those absurd things. But never seen a player show up in uniform. I doubt I ever will. I was simi expecting to see someone find some vintage game worn deal that a player wore. Surprised Tatum hasn't shown up in game worn Kobe shorts at this point.

[LAL1947]

OK I googled that, not a single image shows up. You couldn't provide one either.

Not game shorts... but here you go.

Spoiler:

No lebron in his suit shorts? I feel you missed a moment. Sure, players will wear those absurd things. But never seen a player show up in uniform. I doubt I ever will. I was simi expecting to see someone find some vintage game worn deal that a player wore. Surprised Tatum hasn't shown up in game worn Kobe shorts at this point.

One step ahead of ya! Considered posting the suit shorts... but realized that the choices of these 4 clowns actually make the suit shorts look good, so then of course, I had to pass.

[Invictus88]

Show me ONE nba player walking in wearing their basketball shorts and I'll agree with you. Just one!

Security should know what freaking Klay looks like...these aren't idiots on the street and if you watched the video, MULTIPLE people knew who it was lol. It's pathetic that security let this happen. PATHETIC! These people have actually seen klay, IN PERSON!!!!!!

How about spending 1% effort and do a google image search for "arriving at arena wearing shorts"? You'll see plenty players wearing shorts entering arenas.

It doesn't matter if security SHOULD have known better. Ignorance of security or feigned ignorance of rules by BigDaws does not excuse him from the fact that he still trespassed.

You're being dumb at this point honestly.

There have been plenty of stories of folks simply acting confident in situations where they weren't allowed to access areas they shouldn't be. Humans WANT to believe the best in people (even if they shouldn't). The fact that they erroneously let the guy in does not in any way erase the fact that BigDaws committed a crime.

OK I googled that, not a single image shows up. You couldn't provide one either. This wasn't a crime. And unlike "most humans", these people have the job of being security. They're supposed to ask the most basic of questions.

Do you not understand what a google image search is. Click on the freaking images tab after you google something. The photos are right there.

You're just <fill in the blank of whatever term you want to use>.

Whether something is a crime is not in any way determined by the (in)ability of people who may have jobs designed to prevent such actions.

If a policeman fails to stop a robbery from being committed due to negligence it is still a robbery. My goodness you're thick.

[Invictus88]

Show me ONE nba player walking in wearing their basketball shorts and I'll agree with you. Just one!

Security should know what freaking Klay looks like...these aren't idiots on the street and if you watched the video, MULTIPLE people knew who it was lol. It's pathetic that security let this happen. PATHETIC! These people have actually seen klay, IN PERSON!!!!!!

How about spending 1% effort and do a google image search for "arriving at arena wearing shorts"? You'll see plenty players wearing shorts entering arenas.

It doesn't matter if security SHOULD have known better. Ignorance of security or feigned ignorance of rules by BigDaws does not excuse him from the fact that he still trespassed.

You're being dumb at this point honestly.

There have been plenty of stories of folks simply acting confident in situations where they weren't allowed to access areas they shouldn't be. Humans WANT to believe the best in people (even if they shouldn't). The fact that they erroneously let the guy in does not in any way erase the fact that BigDaws committed a crime.

OK I googled that, not a single image shows up. You couldn't provide one either. This wasn't a crime. And unlike "most humans", these people have the job of being security. They're supposed to ask the most basic of questions.

Do you not understand what a google image search is? Click on the freaking images tab after you google something. The photos are right there.

You're just <fill in the blank of whatever term you want to use>.

Whether something is a crime is not in any way determined by the (in)ability of people who may have jobs designed to prevent such actions.

If a policeman fails to stop a robbery from being committed due to negligence it is still a robbery. My goodness you're thick.

[Capn'O]

The weird part of this is the guy looks nothing like Klay.

He looks like what Klay looks like in my minds eye but not side by side.

In my younger days, I found that if you walk around with the confidence that you know what you're doing, you're supposed to be there, and it's close enough most people don't tend to question it.

[165bows]

The weird part of this is the guy looks nothing like Klay.

He looks like what Klay looks like in my minds eye but not side by side.

Ha yeah it's kind of like a caricature. They make the drawing look ridiculous and not even like a real person but the right features give the perfect impression despite that.

[ropjhk]

OK I googled that, not a single image shows up. You couldn't provide one either.

Not game shorts... but here you go.

Spoiler:

They look like they're on vacation.

[dhsilv2]

How about spending 1% effort and do a google image search for "arriving at arena wearing shorts"? You'll see plenty players wearing shorts entering arenas.

It doesn't matter if security SHOULD have known better. Ignorance of security or feigned ignorance of rules by BigDaws does not excuse him from the fact that he still trespassed.

You're being dumb at this point honestly.

There have been plenty of stories of folks simply acting confident in situations where they weren't allowed to access areas they shouldn't be. Humans WANT to believe the best in people (even if they shouldn't). The fact that they erroneously let the guy in does not in any way erase the fact that BigDaws committed a crime.

OK I googled that, not a single image shows up. You couldn't provide one either. This wasn't a crime. And unlike "most humans", these people have the job of being security. They're supposed to ask the most basic of questions.

Do you not understand what a google image search is. Click on the freaking images tab after you google something. The photos are right there.

You're just <fill in the blank of whatever term you want to use>.

Whether something is a crime is not in any way determined by the (in)ability of people who may have jobs designed to prevent such actions.

If a policeman fails to stop a robbery from being committed due to negligence it is still a robbery. My goodness you're thick.

Yes, I'm fully aware of how to use google image search. I nor anyone else has chimed in with a player in their game shorts.

If you have all these images, post them already!

[CS707]

OK I googled that, not a single image shows up. You couldn't provide one either. This wasn't a crime. And unlike "most humans", these people have the job of being security. They're supposed to ask the most basic of questions.

It is explicitly outlined in the Chase Center guest code of conduct policy though and it's entirely reasonable to accept both that the security failed to do their job to an acceptable degree and the fan violated the terms of agreement for accessing the venue.

[dhsilv2]

OK I googled that, not a single image shows up. You couldn't provide one either. This wasn't a crime. And unlike "most humans", these people have the job of being security. They're supposed to ask the most basic of questions.

It is explicitly outlined in the Chase Center guest code of conduct policy though and it's entirely reasonable to accept both that the security failed to do their job to an acceptable degree and the fan violated the terms of agreement for accessing the venue.

As I already stated clearly, they have every right to ban him. I stated he was not trespassing. I'm sure it violated their policy if they have such. Below is what must be proven to be trespassing. As I stated, it would be extremely difficult to establish this given while he did clearly go in the employee entrance, given he has tickets for the game, this is a place the public do go, with permission....it's going to be awfully difficult to establish items 2 and 3. Maybe a lawyer could, but given Dawson left the second he was asked without ANY incident, that would be difficult.

In order to prove that a defendant is guilty of trespassing, a prosecutor must be able to establish the following:

The defendant willfully entered or remained on the property of another
The defendant did this with the specific intent of interfering with the other person’s property rights
AND the defendant actually interfered with these rights

[CS707]

OK I googled that, not a single image shows up. You couldn't provide one either. This wasn't a crime. And unlike "most humans", these people have the job of being security. They're supposed to ask the most basic of questions.

It is explicitly outlined in the Chase Center guest code of conduct policy though and it's entirely reasonable to accept both that the security failed to do their job to an acceptable degree and the fan violated the terms of agreement for accessing the venue.

As I already stated clearly, they have every right to ban him. I stated he was not trespassing. I'm sure it violated their policy if they have such. Below is what must be proven to be trespassing. As I stated, it would be extremely difficult to establish this given while he did clearly go in the employee entrance, given he has tickets for the game, this is a place the public do go, with permission....it's going to be awfully difficult to establish items 2 and 3. Maybe a lawyer could, but given Dawson left the second he was asked without ANY incident, that would be difficult.

In order to prove that a defendant is guilty of trespassing, a prosecutor must be able to establish the following:

The defendant willfully entered or remained on the property of another
The defendant did this with the specific intent of interfering with the other person’s property rights
AND the defendant actually interfered with these rights

Ok, I see where you're coming from. The criteria for criminal trespassing in California is pretty basic so I'm sure, if inclined, an argument could be made I suppose but not something I'd waste time debating about. Even if it technically met the minimum qualification I doubt the DA would be too keen on spending time on it. Consider the ban a defacto plea arrangement.

[dhsilv2]

It is explicitly outlined in the Chase Center guest code of conduct policy though and it's entirely reasonable to accept both that the security failed to do their job to an acceptable degree and the fan violated the terms of agreement for accessing the venue.

As I already stated clearly, they have every right to ban him. I stated he was not trespassing. I'm sure it violated their policy if they have such. Below is what must be proven to be trespassing. As I stated, it would be extremely difficult to establish this given while he did clearly go in the employee entrance, given he has tickets for the game, this is a place the public do go, with permission....it's going to be awfully difficult to establish items 2 and 3. Maybe a lawyer could, but given Dawson left the second he was asked without ANY incident, that would be difficult.

In order to prove that a defendant is guilty of trespassing, a prosecutor must be able to establish the following:

The defendant willfully entered or remained on the property of another
The defendant did this with the specific intent of interfering with the other person’s property rights
AND the defendant actually interfered with these rights

Ok, I see where you're coming from. The criteria for criminal trespassing in California is pretty basic so I'm sure, if inclined, an argument could be made I suppose but not something I'd waste time debating about. Even if it technically met the minimum qualification I doubt the DA would be too keen on spending time on it. Consider the ban a defacto plea arrangement.

Others implied he should have been arrested which is where I started with. I just doubt they'd win that case clearly. They can certainly ban him for policy reasons. That's different.

[floppymoose]

The weird part of this is the guy looks nothing like Klay.

He looks like what Klay looks like in my minds eye but not side by side.

In my younger days, I found that if you walk around with the confidence that you know what you're doing, you're supposed to be there, and it's close enough most people don't tend to question it.

Watch on YouTube

[Capn'O]

The weird part of this is the guy looks nothing like Klay.

He looks like what Klay looks like in my minds eye but not side by side.

In my younger days, I found that if you walk around with the confidence that you know what you're doing, you're supposed to be there, and it's close enough most people don't tend to question it.

Watch on YouTube

exactly!

[Michael Jackson]

That "official letter" looks super fake.

Watch the full clip. Its real. He was handed it by the vice security operations of chase center.

I don't mind the prank. I do mind the potential precedent that it sets... I've worked a lot of big events and security can be tough. Don't mind what this guy did and security was fine with him but they needed to set a precedent with this for future less "gracious" copy cats. I mean you could tell a lot of the people knew who he was or had a clue and knew that he "specifically" was harmless and he would play just fine. He should be allowed to do it but Chase and GSW needs to draw a line in the sand for the next guy who isn't soooo "in" on the joke and is more of a threat.

[Michael Jackson]

Personally I have walked into plenty of places I wasn't supposed to be, literally doing my job as a younger man. Not intentional but I ended up in places you just are not supposed to be. I have also walked into places I wasn't supposed to be by feigning I knew what I was doing, granted not high security but security was there. There is a thing about walking in like you belong. Then again scam artists literally do that all the time and people get taken advantage of. I admittedly did it to get into concerts for free which as an older gentleman I find wrong (especially having worked the other side and seeing how poorly a crew is paid) but if you look the part and act the part you can get pretty far. This guy basically did that.

My Son wants to be a YouTube, its his life goal now, his mother is not fond and well, I am not either to the extent I at least want a fall back career (I was a musician lol) but a guy like this does it. It is pretty interesting that Warhol really knew what he said, even before tech caught up to his thought process.

I can get a decent "celebrity" on a youtube channel or podcast somewhat easily if the content is good. Ask Marc Moron, dude had Obama request him because he saw the value of the format.

All that being said, this guy has skills and isn't a "problem" the problem are people who think they can be him, like I thought I could be MJ because I hung my tongue out on a drive. This guy has a skillset and the ones who don't will try to emulate this and can cause major problems.

[vital_signs]

Dude's an early adopter for YT fame, similar to early crypto adopters. People chasing that dream these days have a much less of a chance. He's not even funny