2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon

[shangrila]

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Besson sucks, avoid at all costs. Brown might be interesting as a 3&D undrafted guy. Brooks is a 7ft, 240 guy who never managed to average 8rpg or 10ppg (though he came real close this season) during his 6(!!!) year college career. So...probably not an NBA guy. Everyone knows the rest.

Though someone pointed out, amusingly, that we could leave this draft with both Nikola Jovic and Michael Foster Jr. A joke that, equally amusingly, went completely over Doogie's head.

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2022/06/draft-notes-daniels-banchero-nembhard-laravia.html
That's got both Laravia and Nembhard coming here sometime this week.

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2022/06/draft-notes-green-room-draft-targets-mock-draft-minott.html
There's Minott.

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2022/06/draft-notes-daniels-pacers-agbaji-beauchamp-wesley.html
And that ones Beauchamp (this is a little old but I wasn't sure if we'd covered him yet).


So rounding out a lot of the guys around both the 19 and 40th picks.

[shangrila]

I’d support Eason but I suspect he will go top 10 in this draft. I like him more than Murray, who some are mocking at 4 to Kings. Ironically, Eason would be better fit for them. If he’s at 19 seems like a no brainer for us.

I had him mocked there earlier in the process but I'm starting to believe the drawbacks are outweighing the negatives. He wouldn't be the first guy to dominate college and never make it in the pros, especially if his IQ or attitude aren't up to snuff.

And going back to watch some LSU games I noticed some concerning stuff regarding his attitude. He trash talks, which is fine, but there was one play in particular where he passed his teammate the ball on a fast break, the guy slipped and hit the deck and Eason threw up his hands like "WTF?". There were a few more instances of stuff like that that rubbed me the wrong way, though I haven't heard anything about it from anyone else so maybe I'm reading too much into it.

[Devilzsidewalk]

JJJ types aren't available at 19, let alone in the 2nd round.

You honestly seem to have unrealistic expectations for what they're able to do.

My hope is that if Duren/Williams don’t slide on draft day, we go after Hartenstein in free agency. Elite rim protection and passing from a big man. Might be happy playing 25 minutes with and behind Towns.

Reid cannot be our #2 big. Leaves us with no rim protection.

Agreed on Reid.

Honestly I think we need to be way more aggressive than just upgrading him though. The West is going to get significantly tougher next season and we need to act accordingly.

Feels like that's exactly what they're going to do. The workout list is all guards and forwards. Seems like they aren't taking anybody that can't hit a long jumper. Maybe bring in a UDFA to compete, but wouldn't be surprised if Reid is the primary back up going into camp.

[old school 34]

I’d support Eason but I suspect he will go top 10 in this draft. I like him more than Murray, who some are mocking at 4 to Kings. Ironically, Eason would be better fit for them. If he’s at 19 seems like a no brainer for us.

I had him mocked there earlier in the process but I'm starting to believe the drawbacks are outweighing the negatives. He wouldn't be the first guy to dominate college and never make it in the pros, especially if his IQ or attitude aren't up to snuff.

And going back to watch some LSU games I noticed some concerning stuff regarding his attitude. He trash talks, which is fine, but there was one play in particular where he passed his teammate the ball on a fast break, the guy slipped and hit the deck and Eason threw up his hands like "WTF?". There were a few more instances of stuff like that that rubbed me the wrong way, though I haven't heard anything about it from anyone else so maybe I'm reading too much into it.

Eason is such a hard read for me & no way right for any of us to really know? If all the transfers & attitude or BBIQ stuff are really red flags or not? That's the swing skill really on him? If you can sort thru that reasonably...he's seems Iike a pretty ideal fit, but that said if those things are pretty minor or workable, then it would also seem pretty unlikely that he gets to 19?

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[old school 34]

2nd round wishlist & I don't expect like most that we'll keep all 3 #2's...but my priorities would be:

1. Somehow come away with Nebhard...probably doesn't get to 40 (may not even get to 2nd round?), but somebody I'd like us to target. Could be Connelly's next Monte Morris type of guy?

2. I'd rather take a super young not ready for NBA type on a 2-way vs a euro stash guy....Watson/Minott/Butler....love to grab that type of guy...taking one of our 2-way spots (which avoids the roster crunch) & see what our expanded player development program can do with 1 of them.

3. Euro stash, I guess is the last option....just because if you're starting to bring back other guys that are taking roster spots....it probably comes at the expense of other guys already on the roster?

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[Norseman79]

2nd round wishlist & I don't expect like most that we'll keep all 3 #2's...but my priorities would be:

1. Somehow come away with Nebhard...probably doesn't get to 40 (may not even get to 2nd round?), but somebody I'd like us to target. Could be Connelly's next Monte Morris type of guy?

2. I'd rather take a super young not ready for NBA type on a 2-way vs a euro stash guy....Watson/Minott/Butler....love to grab that type of guy...taking one of our 2-way spots (which avoids the roster crunch) & see what our expanded player development program can do with 1 of them.

3. Euro stash, I guess is the last option....just because if you're starting to bring back other guys that are taking roster spots....it probably comes at the expense of other guys already on the roster?

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Great takes

1. I would actually consider Nembard at 19, but even better with a short trade back. I think he and Ant in the backcourt are good for a long time.

2. I am ok with this as long as they swing for unicorns. Find the athletic freaks with size and potential at their positions.

3. There are a couple I would be ok with, but it is a slippery slope.

[Krapinsky]

I’d support Eason but I suspect he will go top 10 in this draft. I like him more than Murray, who some are mocking at 4 to Kings. Ironically, Eason would be better fit for them. If he’s at 19 seems like a no brainer for us.

I had him mocked there earlier in the process but I'm starting to believe the drawbacks are outweighing the negatives. He wouldn't be the first guy to dominate college and never make it in the pros, especially if his IQ or attitude aren't up to snuff.

And going back to watch some LSU games I noticed some concerning stuff regarding his attitude. He trash talks, which is fine, but there was one play in particular where he passed his teammate the ball on a fast break, the guy slipped and hit the deck and Eason threw up his hands like "WTF?". There were a few more instances of stuff like that that rubbed me the wrong way, though I haven't heard anything about it from anyone else so maybe I'm reading too much into it.

For me he is almost the anti-McDaniels in terms of aggression and posing his will on people to make plays. He’s never going to be a guy that disappears. He makes an impact on both ends. He’s got the DNA of a Memphis Grizzlies player. He brings a level of toughness we lack outside of Beverly and his antics. I really like him as a SF compliment to Edwards and Towns.

[Norseman79]

I’d support Eason but I suspect he will go top 10 in this draft. I like him more than Murray, who some are mocking at 4 to Kings. Ironically, Eason would be better fit for them. If he’s at 19 seems like a no brainer for us.

I had him mocked there earlier in the process but I'm starting to believe the drawbacks are outweighing the negatives. He wouldn't be the first guy to dominate college and never make it in the pros, especially if his IQ or attitude aren't up to snuff.

And going back to watch some LSU games I noticed some concerning stuff regarding his attitude. He trash talks, which is fine, but there was one play in particular where he passed his teammate the ball on a fast break, the guy slipped and hit the deck and Eason threw up his hands like "WTF?". There were a few more instances of stuff like that that rubbed me the wrong way, though I haven't heard anything about it from anyone else so maybe I'm reading too much into it.

For me he is almost the anti-McDaniels in terms of aggression and posing his will on people to make plays. He’s never going to be a guy that disappears. He makes an impact on both ends. He’s got the DNA of a Memphis Grizzlies player. He brings a level of toughness we lack outside of Beverly and his antics. I really like him as a SF compliment to Edwards and Towns.

I don't agree with the player, but I appreciate you referring to him as a SF option not a PF

[KGdaBom]

I’d support Eason but I suspect he will go top 10 in this draft. I like him more than Murray, who some are mocking at 4 to Kings. Ironically, Eason would be better fit for them. If he’s at 19 seems like a no brainer for us.

I had him mocked there earlier in the process but I'm starting to believe the drawbacks are outweighing the negatives. He wouldn't be the first guy to dominate college and never make it in the pros, especially if his IQ or attitude aren't up to snuff.

And going back to watch some LSU games I noticed some concerning stuff regarding his attitude. He trash talks, which is fine, but there was one play in particular where he passed his teammate the ball on a fast break, the guy slipped and hit the deck and Eason threw up his hands like "WTF?". There were a few more instances of stuff like that that rubbed me the wrong way, though I haven't heard anything about it from anyone else so maybe I'm reading too much into it.

All reports I've heard on Michael Jordan are he was a jerk to his teammates if they ever made a mistake. He led by fear.

[Norseman79]

I’d support Eason but I suspect he will go top 10 in this draft. I like him more than Murray, who some are mocking at 4 to Kings. Ironically, Eason would be better fit for them. If he’s at 19 seems like a no brainer for us.

I had him mocked there earlier in the process but I'm starting to believe the drawbacks are outweighing the negatives. He wouldn't be the first guy to dominate college and never make it in the pros, especially if his IQ or attitude aren't up to snuff.

And going back to watch some LSU games I noticed some concerning stuff regarding his attitude. He trash talks, which is fine, but there was one play in particular where he passed his teammate the ball on a fast break, the guy slipped and hit the deck and Eason threw up his hands like "WTF?". There were a few more instances of stuff like that that rubbed me the wrong way, though I haven't heard anything about it from anyone else so maybe I'm reading too much into it.

All reports I've heard on Michael Jordan are he was a jerk to his teammates if they ever made a mistake. He led by fear.

Jordan led by example, demanded excellence, and held himself accountable to those very standards. He was an ass but he was an ass to everybody including himself. We could use a lot more people like that not only in sports but the world in general then the soft ass stuff we have going on now

[KGdaBom]

I had him mocked there earlier in the process but I'm starting to believe the drawbacks are outweighing the negatives. He wouldn't be the first guy to dominate college and never make it in the pros, especially if his IQ or attitude aren't up to snuff.

And going back to watch some LSU games I noticed some concerning stuff regarding his attitude. He trash talks, which is fine, but there was one play in particular where he passed his teammate the ball on a fast break, the guy slipped and hit the deck and Eason threw up his hands like "WTF?". There were a few more instances of stuff like that that rubbed me the wrong way, though I haven't heard anything about it from anyone else so maybe I'm reading too much into it.

For me he is almost the anti-McDaniels in terms of aggression and posing his will on people to make plays. He’s never going to be a guy that disappears. He makes an impact on both ends. He’s got the DNA of a Memphis Grizzlies player. He brings a level of toughness we lack outside of Beverly and his antics. I really like him as a SF compliment to Edwards and Towns.

I don't agree with the player, but I appreciate you referring to him as a SF option not a PF

I like him as a PF.

[KGdaBom]

I had him mocked there earlier in the process but I'm starting to believe the drawbacks are outweighing the negatives. He wouldn't be the first guy to dominate college and never make it in the pros, especially if his IQ or attitude aren't up to snuff.

And going back to watch some LSU games I noticed some concerning stuff regarding his attitude. He trash talks, which is fine, but there was one play in particular where he passed his teammate the ball on a fast break, the guy slipped and hit the deck and Eason threw up his hands like "WTF?". There were a few more instances of stuff like that that rubbed me the wrong way, though I haven't heard anything about it from anyone else so maybe I'm reading too much into it.

All reports I've heard on Michael Jordan are he was a jerk to his teammates if they ever made a mistake. He led by fear.

Jordan led by example, demanded excellence, and held himself accountable to those very standards. He was an ass but he was an ass to everybody including himself. We could use a lot more people like that not only in sports but the world in general then the soft ass stuff we have going on now

Example and fear.

[Norseman79]

All reports I've heard on Michael Jordan are he was a jerk to his teammates if they ever made a mistake. He led by fear.

Jordan led by example, demanded excellence, and held himself accountable to those very standards. He was an ass but he was an ass to everybody including himself. We could use a lot more people like that not only in sports but the world in general then the soft ass stuff we have going on now

Example and fear.

Absolutely. He set the bar for what he expected from everyone else. And if they didn't reach it he would destroy them.

[jpatrick]

Dyson Daniels is my guy, but with his rise, he’ll be long gone.

My #2 guy is Jeremy Sochan. Draymond Green-lite. Played at age 18 this year (2 years younger than season). Elite perimeter defender. Big enough to hold up in the post and eventually play some small ball 5. Was the vocal leader defensively of that team at age 18. Offensively, the shot is a question. But, like Green, elite passer. Good ball handler. Won’t be a star but will be a great blue guy. Won’t be Green in all likelihood, but I could see Aaron Gordon with the nuggets this past season (not as much of a vertical athlete as Gordon, but is an elite lateral athlete).

Problem is he’s mocked anywhere from 7-15. Would have to move up. May be worth it.

[thinktank]

Jalen Williams looks amazing.

Don’t think I could pass on him at 19.

Solve PF another way.



I do like the Gonzaga PG, however his weird name is spelled, in round 2.

[thinktank]

This kid is potentially intriguing. I know many are mocking him in the 2nd, but I wouldn't hate taking a chance on his upside...

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I like how high he keeps the ball all the time. You can’t really teach that. Impressive video.

[younggunsmn]

I'm out on Eason. His shot is seriously broken/ugly and he can only straight line dribble, he doesn't have much of a handle.
That limits him to undersized PF which is what I'd like to avoid drafting at all costs.
And he can't shoot well enough to play there for FInch.

[shangrila]

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Max Christie is interesting. %s weren't there but his shot is smooth and he was a good shooter in HS AFAIK, not to mention he played good defence. If he's there at 40 he could be an interesting long term Beasley replacement.

Laravia we've gone over. I'm not a fan as he seems like the bad kind of tweener defensively, but I see the IQ and shooting positives.

Williamson I think is a defensive menace. That's what I've read anyway, though his 2.5 STL% isn't elite. Career 38% from 3 isn't bad though.

Marcus Weathers is one of those 6-5 mostly PF kinda SF types. Might be a guy similar to Tate from Houston. Probably a G League guy in the short term.

The other two I don't know nor care to look into. Warm bodies for the workout most likely.

[Devilzsidewalk]

How come people are so down on Hardy, i see the strong Poole vibes. Insane handles and off the dribble shooting is the foundation of every great scoring point guard. I know the finishing and defense look questionable, but those would be the two things I would expect to be behind in starting in the g league ignite vs playing for Kentucky.

I remain intrigued.

[theGreatRC]

How come people are so down on Hardy, i see the strong Poole vibes. Insane handles and off the dribble shooting is the foundation of every great scoring point guard. I know the finishing and defense look questionable, but those would be the two things I would expect to be behind in starting in the g league ignite vs playing for Kentucky.

I remain intrigued.

One of the top players in his class..I think G league didn't do him any favors, which is weird to say since Green & Kuminga went top 10 last year and Hardy's teammate Dyson Daniels is going top 10 as well.

I'd go crazy if we picked him up at 19