Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect

[FloridaMan78]

Coolness is on Addys staying up arguing with Manocad

LOL, I'm pretty sure he slept and then we met up again to talk over that important draft stuff.

Haven't seen AJ Griffin mocked high in a while. Supposedly his best thing was defense in spite of his great 3pt% as a freshman.
Also, 6'6" and I always see him as just a small forward. Did they determine he's just too small-forwardy or something? I don't understand that, but I guess in 2022 in the NBA you can be 6'3" and be a sf. I'm not convinced there is any reason, but if anyone wants to drop any knowledge on AJ, that would hit the spot.

Griffin’s defense WAS good, in high school before his injuries. Now it’s absolutely atrocious. Scouts watched his tape and saw just how bad it was.

[FloridaMan78]

Ivey putting it out there that he would prefer not to be drafted by the Kings.

Man guess there’s a chance.

I doubt Weaver trades for switch. I guess we’ll see if anyone else trades for him or if the Kings just draft him anyways.

I’ve been super high on him. I hope it happens.

[coolness]

Coolness is on Addys staying up arguing with Manocad

LOL, I'm pretty sure he slept and then we met up again to talk over that important draft stuff.

Haven't seen AJ Griffin mocked high in a while. Supposedly his best thing was defense in spite of his great 3pt% as a freshman.
Also, 6'6" and I always see him as just a small forward. Did they determine he's just too small-forwardy or something? I don't understand that, but I guess in 2022 in the NBA you can be 6'3" and be a sf. I'm not convinced there is any reason, but if anyone wants to drop any knowledge on AJ, that would hit the spot.

Griffin’s defense WAS good, in high school before his injuries. Now it’s absolutely atrocious. Scouts watched his tape and saw just how bad it was.

I believe you on everything, but why should we believe in some wing's defense based on high school? I guess I never heard that the injuries were in high school. I just remember him being mocked 4th on nbadraft.net early in the college season. Maybe those early season mocks aren't a good read.

[Snakebites]

Ivey putting it out there that he would prefer not to be drafted by the Kings.

Man guess there’s a chance.

I doubt Weaver trades for switch. I guess we’ll see if anyone else trades for him or if the Kings just draft him anyways.

I’ve been super high on him. I hope it happens.

My gut tells me the Kings either draft him anyway or deal the pick.

But yeah, that is a slight wrench in things. If they were 50/50 on him I guess this could sway things.

It already seemed like they might look to deal the pick. This makes that a little more likely, though teams historically don’t let things like this dissuade them if there’s a guy they really want.

Man, it becomes more apparent all the time that the Kings really messed up trading Haliburton. He really wanted to be there- he was all-in.

[coolness]

Ivey putting it out there that he would prefer not to be drafted by the Kings.

Man guess there’s a chance.

I doubt Weaver trades for switch. I guess we’ll see if anyone else trades for him or if the Kings just draft him anyways.

I’ve been super high on him. I hope it happens.

He might go top-3 though???

This reminds me of some other thread last night. I was doubting that draft picks do that to teams. Maybe rarely. Something about SAC was just unacceptable, lol.

Some other post, I tried to get somebody's take about how Ivey and Cade may or may not bring out the best in each other. But, I guess they don't have to instantly be very complementary. If you have a moment, what do you see in Cade/Ivey sharing the floor? They aren't bad shooters or anything and can improve, but what about ball-handling?

[coolness]

Ivey putting it out there that he would prefer not to be drafted by the Kings.

Man guess there’s a chance.

I doubt Weaver trades for switch. I guess we’ll see if anyone else trades for him or if the Kings just draft him anyways.

I’ve been super high on him. I hope it happens.

My gut tells me the Kings either draft him anyway or deal the pick.

But yeah, that is a slight wrench in things. If they were 50/50 on him I guess this could sway things.

I can't think of anything wrong with the Kings getting the most value they can. That would suck to read about as a Kings fan though. Did Ivey come up with disliking SAC all by himself or do other guys hold that belief?

[FloridaMan78]

Ivey putting it out there that he would prefer not to be drafted by the Kings.

Man guess there’s a chance.

I doubt Weaver trades for switch. I guess we’ll see if anyone else trades for him or if the Kings just draft him anyways.

I’ve been super high on him. I hope it happens.

He might go top-3 though???

This reminds me of some other thread last night. I was doubting that draft picks do that to teams. Maybe rarely. Something about SAC was just unacceptable, lol.

Some other post, I tried to get somebody's take about how Ivey and Cade may or may not bring out the best in each other. But, I guess they don't have to instantly be very complementary. If you have a moment, what do you see in Cade/Ivey sharing the floor? They aren't bad shooters or anything and can improve, but what about ball-handling?

IMO, although Ivey’s greatest potential is with the ball in his hands, most of what he showed last year was him playing off ball in the two guard spot. Most of his plays in the half court were him coming off screens off ball. So I don’t see the problem.

[BadMofoPimp]

Ivey putting it out there that he would prefer not to be drafted by the Kings.

Man guess there’s a chance.

I doubt Weaver trades for switch. I guess we’ll see if anyone else trades for him or if the Kings just draft him anyways.

I’ve been super high on him. I hope it happens.

My gut tells me the Kings either draft him anyway or deal the pick.

But yeah, that is a slight wrench in things. If they were 50/50 on him I guess this could sway things.

I can't think of anything wrong with the Kings getting the most value they can. That would suck to read about as a Kings fan though. Did Ivey come up with disliking SAC all by himself or do other guys hold that belief?

I think he wants to play closer to home being he has ties to Detroit and Indiana.

[coolness]

My gut tells me the Kings either draft him anyway or deal the pick.

But yeah, that is a slight wrench in things. If they were 50/50 on him I guess this could sway things.

I can't think of anything wrong with the Kings getting the most value they can. That would suck to read about as a Kings fan though. Did Ivey come up with disliking SAC all by himself or do other guys hold that belief?

I think he wants to play closer to home being he has ties to Detroit and Indiana.

I can't think of anything wrong with that, but I assume the league doesn't want it to be a common thing.

[Manocad]

Christ, can you guys take your argument elsewhere and leave this thread for real draft talk? I can't speak for everybody, but I'm sure most posters here don't want to wade through pages of this nonsense to find actual meaningful discussion. Maybe use the OT thread and leave this for draft talk.

Granted, somebody went a little waaaaaay too wordy but addressing Mathurin's so-called character issues being a reason not to draft him counts as draft talk. Don't like it? Too bad. You're not a moderator here.

[Manocad]

Coolness is on Addys staying up arguing with Manocad

I think Addys are a necessity in any argument with Manocad

It helps to start with a good argument. Lord knows some of you guys suck at putting something logical together and when you don't, you get your tits all in a bind when your argument gets blown to pieces.

[King Bugs]

Ivey putting it out there that he would prefer not to be drafted by the Kings.

Man guess there’s a chance.

I doubt Weaver trades for switch. I guess we’ll see if anyone else trades for him or if the Kings just draft him anyways.

I’ve been super high on him. I hope it happens.

Not surprised by this at all. If you're Ivey's agent/camp you don't want him going to a franchise with a reputation of dysfunction and a crowded backcourt. That's just setting him up for failure. The problem is that there just aren't a lot of teams in the top 7 (except for 1, I'll let you guess which one) where big minutes aren't in question and he'd be a day one starter.

[FloridaMan78]

Ivey putting it out there that he would prefer not to be drafted by the Kings.

Man guess there’s a chance.

I doubt Weaver trades for switch. I guess we’ll see if anyone else trades for him or if the Kings just draft him anyways.

I’ve been super high on him. I hope it happens.

My gut tells me the Kings either draft him anyway or deal the pick.

But yeah, that is a slight wrench in things. If they were 50/50 on him I guess this could sway things.

It already seemed like they might look to deal the pick. This makes that a little more likely, though teams historically don’t let things like this dissuade them if there’s a guy they really want.

Man, it becomes more apparent all the time that the Kings really messed up trading Haliburton. He really wanted to be there- he was all-in.

So Kings want Keegan Murray. Weaver is putting it out there that Detroit will select Murray at 5. So if the Kings want Murray they can’t trade past Detroit.

I am getting my hopes up. I will be so hyped if we get Ivey.

[JerseyJungle]

I would like to apologize to the board.
I said I believed Mathurin was a good character. It was a throw away comment (I thought), and <1% of my first post.
85 posts later......
Man, you guys are intense!

[coolness]

I would like to apologize to the board.
I said I believed Mathurin was a good character. It was a throw away comment (I thought), and <1% of my first post.
85 posts later......
Man, you guys are intense!

Don't listen to him, he's my fake handle.

[JerseyJungle]

Ivey putting it out there that he would prefer not to be drafted by the Kings.

Man guess there’s a chance.

If you have a moment, what do you see in Cade/Ivey sharing the floor?

Out of Ivey, Mathurin, Murray or Sharpe, I think Ivey needs the ball more, and would be an alternative to Cade bringing up the floor. But he's best at creating his own shot, not necessarily for others. I used to think Cade needed another guy to help with ball handling duties. He needs to cut down on his TO's. But when we did that last year, with Cade on the floor, i'm not convinced we did any better -- would love to see some stats on that.

So if you prefer an alternative to Cade bringing the ball up, Ivey might be the best option. Personally, I'd have Mathurin, Sharpe, or Murray as better options for us.

[JerseyJungle]

I would like to apologize to the board.
I said I believed Mathurin was a good character. It was a throw away comment (I thought), and <1% of my first post.
85 posts later......
Man, you guys are intense!

Don't listen to him, he's my fake handle.

That should have been Flow's line.

[coolness]

I would like to apologize to the board.
I said I believed Mathurin was a good character. It was a throw away comment (I thought), and <1% of my first post.
85 posts later......
Man, you guys are intense!

Don't listen to him, he's my fake handle.

That should have been Flow's line.

I didn't think it through. We've been through a lot though, he'll probably just not talk to me for a few days.

[Snakebites]

Ivey putting it out there that he would prefer not to be drafted by the Kings.

Man guess there’s a chance.

I doubt Weaver trades for switch. I guess we’ll see if anyone else trades for him or if the Kings just draft him anyways.

I’ve been super high on him. I hope it happens.

My gut tells me the Kings either draft him anyway or deal the pick.

But yeah, that is a slight wrench in things. If they were 50/50 on him I guess this could sway things.

It already seemed like they might look to deal the pick. This makes that a little more likely, though teams historically don’t let things like this dissuade them if there’s a guy they really want.

Man, it becomes more apparent all the time that the Kings really messed up trading Haliburton. He really wanted to be there- he was all-in.

So Kings want Keegan Murray. Weaver is putting it out there that Detroit will select Murray at 5. So if the Kings want Murray they can’t trade past Detroit.

I am getting my hopes up. I will be so hyped if we get Ivey.

I see Murray on our mocks. Are there any Piston connected sources on that?

I just thought mocks were putting him there because he’s the clearest fit with Cade and everyone thinks we are moving Grant.

[FloridaMan78]

My gut tells me the Kings either draft him anyway or deal the pick.

But yeah, that is a slight wrench in things. If they were 50/50 on him I guess this could sway things.

It already seemed like they might look to deal the pick. This makes that a little more likely, though teams historically don’t let things like this dissuade them if there’s a guy they really want.

Man, it becomes more apparent all the time that the Kings really messed up trading Haliburton. He really wanted to be there- he was all-in.

So Kings want Keegan Murray. Weaver is putting it out there that Detroit will select Murray at 5. So if the Kings want Murray they can’t trade past Detroit.

I am getting my hopes up. I will be so hyped if we get Ivey.

I see Murray on our mocks. Are there any Piston connected sources on that?

I just thought mocks were putting him there because he’s the clearest fit with Cade and everyone thinks we are moving Grant.

James Edwards III has been saying that for a while.