Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect

[Jsindto]

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If Portland gets #12 maybe we can get that for Grant?
Assuming we dont use him to trade up

If they do that, they're 100% taking Chet and Sharpe. And if they both hit, they'll be the best team in basketball 5 years from now.

Pretty big if though of course.

[JerseyJungle]

Would anyone argue right now, at this very moment, that Jalen Green has a higher ceiling than Cade? Because they sure as hell did before the draft.

I never said an assumption that Green could still have a higher ceiling than Cade is an absurd argument; that certainly could still be the case.

Hmmmm. Which one do you believe?

[MotownMadness]

What is the most you’d give up to move to four and get Ivey?

If the Kings like Keegan we are the only team that can offer a pick that is likely to yield him.

Grant, #5 and some 2nds? Don't really want to part with our young guys plus #5 to move up.

[Jsindto]

What is the most you’d give up to move to four and get Ivey?

If the Kings like Keegan we are the only team that can offer a pick that is likely to yield him.

For me Killian+Grant+5. Now if we were talking one of the 3 bigs I'm willing to talk Bey or Stewart in there.

For Weaver to include Grant, who most would agree has the value of a mid 1st round grade, he would have to be infatuated with Ivey. And have him in a different tier than Murray. Maybe he does, but the vibe I get is that he sees them similarly in terms of level of prospect.

[JerseyJungle]

What is the most you’d give up to move to four and get Ivey?

A can of corn.

[DNice68]

This trade talk could be smoke created by ESPN, who do not like Detroit teams!

[buzzkilloton]

What is the most you’d give up to move to four and get Ivey?

If the Kings like Keegan we are the only team that can offer a pick that is likely to yield him.

For me Killian+Grant+5. Now if we were talking one of the 3 bigs I'm willing to talk Bey or Stewart in there.

For Weaver to include Grant, who most would agree has the value of a mid 1st round grade, he would have to be infatuated with Ivey. And have him in a different tier than Murray. Maybe he does, but the vibe I get is that he sees them similarly in terms of level of prospect.

Grant only has a value of mid first round pick if a team with a mid first is going to offer it. There was like one article that said the Hawks might be interested but since then word is there going for Gobert and they said Hunter is untouchable. I dont even know if that was a reliable source.

Actually my prediction is Grant is a Piston to start the season. I mean the draft is next week. Not all that much time to make a move here.

I'm not infatuated with Ivey and I'd do it. I know he has warts but its way obv to me that hes the 4th best prospect in this draft. The only other guy that has me thinking potential star outside of him is Sharpe and I need more intel on him.

[buzzkilloton]

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[GreekAlex]

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I really hope he falls to the Pistons.

I’ve had him and Jabari as my 1&2 for a while.

I’m pretty scared of most of the other prospects.

[buzzkilloton]

Draft content is just pumping out now this came out 6hours ago. This is a mock draft with Sam V, a agent, some other dudes, and then the Suns GM who took Ayton over Luka and got canned lol. Anyways he talks about his mishap in the first 10mins if you're interested.

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[mattao313]

What is the most you’d give up to move to four and get Ivey?

If the Kings like Keegan we are the only team that can offer a pick that is likely to yield him.

Grant and Stewart

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[Snakebites]

I try not to view it as the number of draft spots. It’s not one draft spot, it’s the difference between Murray/Sharpe and Ivey.

To me if you’re sold on Ivey and think he’s a star in the making who fits with Cade, you do what it takes-star guard pairings are hard to come by. There are good players to be had at 5- but none with that level of impact.

Not sure how confident one can be in that though.

[7r5ur]

I try not to view it as the number of draft spots. It’s not one draft spot, it’s the difference between Murray/Sharpe and Ivey.

To me if you’re sold on Ivey and think he’s a star in the making who fits with Cade, you do what it takes-star guard pairings are hard to come by. There are good players to be had at 5- but none with that level of impact.

Not sure how confident one can be in that though.

Yeah, you better be pretty damn sure that Ivey ends up better than Keegan because giving up assets to move up for him and having him bust would be a brutal look. Depends on the assets I guess...

[Canadafan]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10038962-woj-jaden-ivey-targeted-by-teams-in-trade-calls-with-kings-ahead-of-nba-draft

I'd luv if we could give something minor to move up and grab Ivey.
Also am more interested in saving Grant to get Ayton.

We dont have anything else decent to offer TBH. Next up is Bey/Stewart

KO and a pick

[Kalamazoo317]

I worry that adding Ivey would give us a Garland/Sexton type pairing. Cleveland got so much better when Sexton went down last year. But, as I often post, I'm no scout and if we take him, I'm happy to be proven wrong. I just cringe at the thought of giving up big assets to move up and take him.

[Manocad]

Would anyone argue right now, at this very moment, that Jalen Green has a higher ceiling than Cade? Because they sure as hell did before the draft.

I never said an assumption that Green could still have a higher ceiling than Cade is an absurd argument; that certainly could still be the case.

Hmmmm. Which one do you believe?

Well, let's see...one is the current situation as indicated by the "right now, at this very moment" statement, not to mention that it's referring to others. The second is a prediction of the future which unlike others here, I will never profess to know how to predict. And again, I never said it was an "absurd argument" which is what you claimed. Not to mention you clipped out all the context.

You're gonna have to better than that, chief.

[NYPiston]

I think there's a non-zero chance OKC takes Sharpe or Ivey at #2 and throws all our expectations off the map.

Sharpe is the real wildcard. Ivey taken before 4 doesn't really change much for the Pistons since he's more than likely a part of the top 4 anyway. Sharpe being taken before 5 is what will drop one of the "Big 4" to the Pistons and based on just about every scouting list, it actually seems more like a Big 4 moreso than just a Big 3 even though I personally don't see Ivey as a clear cut above the 2nd tier guys.

[Snakebites]

I worry that adding Ivey would give us a Garland/Sexton type pairing. Cleveland got so much better when Sexton went down last year. But, as I often post, I'm no scout and if we take him, I'm happy to be proven wrong. I just cringe at the thought of giving up big assets to move up and take him.

If they do that then they Kings probably don’t trade with us- they can draft whichever big falls.

[NYPiston]

What is the most you’d give up to move to four and get Ivey?

If the Kings like Keegan we are the only team that can offer a pick that is likely to yield him.

Grant and Stewart

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Hold up. You'd give up #5, Grant and Stewart for Ivey? Or are you talking about just Grant+Stewart?
The first one would be lunacy, the second one the Kings wouldn't touch.

I gotta admit, I'm getting less and less enthused by Murray as we get closer so I'm almost getting to the point when I'm thinking, **** it lets just give up Grant+5 to move up to 4 and take a swing on star potential. I'm not the biggest Ivey fan but I need some excitement and hope for potential big things down the road. Murray just doesn't bring either. He's one of those "that's fine" picks, "don't hate it" but not the type of player to move the needle in a big way. Ivey has that potential even though the floor is lower.

[Jsindto]

I try not to view it as the number of draft spots. It’s not one draft spot, it’s the difference between Murray/Sharpe and Ivey.

To me if you’re sold on Ivey and think he’s a star in the making who fits with Cade, you do what it takes-star guard pairings are hard to come by. There are good players to be had at 5- but none with that level of impact.

Not sure how confident one can be in that though.

Yeah, you better be pretty damn sure that Ivey ends up better than Keegan because giving up assets to move up for him and having him bust would be a brutal look. Depends on the assets I guess...

Yep. If they trade up to 4, but it's just something minor like a couple 2nd round picks, and Murray is a little better than Ivey, it won't be some awful thing (although even in that situation, if Murray is way better than Ivey, then it will be). But if you attach a real asset in Grant and Murray is better than Ivey, even if just slightly, that's a bad look.