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Craft your 2022-23 Celtics Roster – (20-Man Off-Season)

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Craft your 2022-23 Roster = Assume keeping Smart, Brown & Tatum

Horford
69
16%
Rob Williams
69
16%
Pritchard
61
14%
White
60
14%
Nesmith
38
9%
Grant Williams
67
16%
Theis
35
8%
Non-Guaranteed = Morgan - Stauskas - Hauser - Fitts
9
2%
Unsigned = Kornet - Thomas - Ryan
1
0%
Rookie/Other
20
5%
 
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Re: Begin to Craft your 2022-23 Celtics Roster 

Post#361 » by The Corey's » Fri Jun 17, 2022 5:34 am

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Wtf with the hot takes? Stevens traded Kemba and a pick for Al. Traded JRich, Langford, and a pick swap for White. Steven isn't afraid to make bold moves.


Kemba for Al isn't a move I'd consider bold. It was the right one, even if I thought given up the pick was too much.

Trading Horford or Smart now to fill the holes this team has would be bold. He's not doing that.


What is a fair return for Al and Smart?


Who knows. Horford cap number is what I'm focusing on. We can't allow that hold to dry up twice in 4 seasons.

Smart isn't going anywhere. It's not worth discussing.
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Post#362 » by CelticFaninLBC » Fri Jun 17, 2022 5:36 am

D. White for Bogan Bogdanovich.

Utah gets a good perimeter defensive player in White and can move Conley elsewhere. Boston gets a physical scorer in Bogdanovich.
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Re: Begin to Craft your 2022-23 Celtics Roster 

Post#363 » by CelticFaninLBC » Fri Jun 17, 2022 5:37 am

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Kemba for Al isn't a move I'd consider bold. It was the right one, even if I thought given up the pick was too much.

Trading Horford or Smart now to fill the holes this team has would be bold. He's not doing that.


What is a fair return for Al and Smart?


Who knows. Horford cap number is what I'm focusing on. We can't allow that hold to dry up twice in 4 seasons.

Smart isn't going anywhere. It's not worth discussing.


So you don't have the balls to tell us what's a fair trade for Smart and Al?
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Re: Begin to Craft your 2022-23 Celtics Roster 

Post#364 » by The Corey's » Fri Jun 17, 2022 5:41 am

CelticFaninLBC wrote:
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What is a fair return for Al and Smart?


Who knows. Horford cap number is what I'm focusing on. We can't allow that hold to dry up twice in 4 seasons.

Smart isn't going anywhere. It's not worth discussing.


So you don't have the balls to tell us what's a fair trade for Smart and Al?


Look. I know you got flustered but keep the alpha macho male toxicity to your self. We're a inclusive forum here and we don't need this **** infiltrating our safe place.

You'll learn quickly something you should have in the last 17 years. I don't give a **** what your take is, don't be a douche.
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Re: Begin to Craft your 2022-23 Celtics Roster 

Post#365 » by Edug27 » Fri Jun 17, 2022 5:42 am

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But will they pull the trigger? If Tatum doesn't grow a set its not going to matter how many great shooters surround him.


How do we realistically get Beal? I’m assuming Beal wants his supermax from the Wiz. So he’ll either do a sign and trade, or just return to Washington.

A sign and trade would include Horford and Smart?

Would Jaylen be open to being the 3rd option at this point in his career?

Is there a veteran PG out there (please not Rubio) who can be acquired?

Ugh so many questions.


Horford, White, Nesmith, PP and picks is probably enough money to match for Beal....

Rob, JT, JB, Beal and Smart would be awesome. The bench would be more brutal than this year's **** bench, because they'll be hard capped and have little money to spend on bench players.


You can probably keep White, and just use Theis.
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Post#366 » by CelticFaninLBC » Fri Jun 17, 2022 5:45 am

The Corey's wrote:
CelticFaninLBC wrote:
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Who knows. Horford cap number is what I'm focusing on. We can't allow that hold to dry up twice in 4 seasons.

Smart isn't going anywhere. It's not worth discussing.


So you don't have the balls to tell us what's a fair trade for Smart and Al?


Look. I know you got flustered but keep the alpha macho male toxicity to your self. We're a inclusive forum here and we don't need this **** infiltrating our safe place.

You'll learn quickly something you should have in the last 17 years. I don't give a **** what your take is, don't be a douche.


Interesting coming from the person who initially questioned Brad's balls.

I've learned quickly that you're an inconsistent lightweight.
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Post#367 » by CelticFaninLBC » Fri Jun 17, 2022 5:47 am

Edug27 wrote:
CelticFaninLBC wrote:
Edug27 wrote:
How do we realistically get Beal? I’m assuming Beal wants his supermax from the Wiz. So he’ll either do a sign and trade, or just return to Washington.

A sign and trade would include Horford and Smart?

Would Jaylen be open to being the 3rd option at this point in his career?

Is there a veteran PG out there (please not Rubio) who can be acquired?

Ugh so many questions.


Horford, White, Nesmith, PP and picks is probably enough money to match for Beal....

Rob, JT, JB, Beal and Smart would be awesome. The bench would be more brutal than this year's **** bench, because they'll be hard capped and have little money to spend on bench players.


You can probably keep White, and just use Theis.


I hope so, but can't imagine much of a market for Theis.

White is solid and has value, but is essentially Smart-lite.
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Re: Begin to Craft your 2022-23 Celtics Roster 

Post#368 » by The Corey's » Fri Jun 17, 2022 5:49 am

CelticFaninLBC wrote:
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So you don't have the balls to tell us what's a fair trade for Smart and Al?


Look. I know you got flustered but keep the alpha macho male toxicity to your self. We're a inclusive forum here and we don't need this **** infiltrating our safe place.

You'll learn quickly something you should have in the last 17 years. I don't give a **** what your take is, don't be a douche.


Interesting coming from the person who initially questioned Brad's balls.

I've learned quickly that you're an inconsistent lightweight.


I didn't question if he had the balls. Your reading comprehension jumped to conclusions.

Trading Smart would be ballsy.

Trading Kemba, who plays zero defense and has 1 knee left isn't. It's the easy move.

But you know that. Maybe you don't?
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Re: Begin to Craft your 2022-23 Celtics Roster 

Post#369 » by Edug27 » Fri Jun 17, 2022 5:51 am

CelticFaninLBC wrote:
Edug27 wrote:
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Horford, White, Nesmith, PP and picks is probably enough money to match for Beal....

Rob, JT, JB, Beal and Smart would be awesome. The bench would be more brutal than this year's **** bench, because they'll be hard capped and have little money to spend on bench players.


You can probably keep White, and just use Theis.


I hope so, but can't imagine much of a market for Theis.

White is solid and has value, but is essentially Smart-lite.


If Beal wants to leave the Wiz (big IF), then anything we give them in return would be better than getting nothing.
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Re: Begin to Craft your 2022-23 Celtics Roster 

Post#370 » by CelticFaninLBC » Fri Jun 17, 2022 5:53 am

The Corey's wrote:
CelticFaninLBC wrote:
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Look. I know you got flustered but keep the alpha macho male toxicity to your self. We're a inclusive forum here and we don't need this **** infiltrating our safe place.

You'll learn quickly something you should have in the last 17 years. I don't give a **** what your take is, don't be a douche.


Interesting coming from the person who initially questioned Brad's balls.

I've learned quickly that you're an inconsistent lightweight.


I didn't question if he had the balls. Your reading comprehension jumped to conclusions.

Trading Smart would be ballsy.

Trading Kemba, who plays zero defense and has 1 knee left isn't. It's the easy move.

But you know that. Maybe you don't?


Is helpful when someone is more articulate.

Sorry, but I'm skeptical that you'd do a better job than Brad.
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Post#371 » by The Corey's » Fri Jun 17, 2022 5:55 am

CelticFaninLBC wrote:
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Interesting coming from the person who initially questioned Brad's balls.

I've learned quickly that you're an inconsistent lightweight.


I didn't question if he had the balls. Your reading comprehension jumped to conclusions.

Trading Smart would be ballsy.

Trading Kemba, who plays zero defense and has 1 knee left isn't. It's the easy move.

But you know that. Maybe you don't?


Is helpful when someone is more articulate.

Sorry, but I'm skeptical that you'd do a better job than Brad.


When you're done googling what inference means, it'll all make sense.
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Re: Begin to Craft your 2022-23 Celtics Roster 

Post#372 » by BostonCouchGM » Fri Jun 17, 2022 6:17 am

when we made that disastrous White trade and signed TimeLord and Smart long-term, we pretty much set our team for the foreseeable future. There isn't cap space nor many avenues to improve this roster. This is essentially what you're going to get. With an improved East due to health and young improving teams adding even more talent via lottery picks, making another deep playoff run is very unlikely. Only an unlikely and major trade to shake things up could change that and I honestly don't see it happening. With our little maneuverability at our disposal the moves I'd try to make would be to bring Begarin over, free Pritchard via trade, trade Grant and White (though the market would be non-existant) use our 2nd on a long defensive glue guy type and try hard to sign someone like Bagley. Like I said, this is probably 85-90% of the group that will return next season and that's not a good thing. I'm expecting Tatum wanting out rumors to start this Summer at earliest but by next Summer for sure.
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Post#373 » by FlatearthZorro » Fri Jun 17, 2022 6:57 am

BostonCouchGM wrote:when we made that disastrous White trade and signed TimeLord and Smart long-term, we pretty much set our team for the foreseeable future. There isn't cap space nor many avenues to improve this roster. This is essentially what you're going to get. With an improved East due to health and young improving teams adding even more talent via lottery picks, making another deep playoff run is very unlikely. Only an unlikely and major trade to shake things up could change that and I honestly don't see it happening. With our little maneuverability at our disposal the moves I'd try to make would be to bring Begarin over, free Pritchard via trade, trade Grant and White (though the market would be non-existant) use our 2nd on a long defensive glue guy type and try hard to sign someone like Bagley. Like I said, this is probably 85-90% of the group that will return next season and that's not a good thing. I'm expecting Tatum wanting out rumors to start this Summer at earliest but by next Summer for sure.


I'm not a doom and gloom guy, but Tatum wanting to go to the Lakers seems like a real thing to me and has seemed ever since he's been here. He found a way to talk about the lakers while being a Celtic in the Finals and then proceeded to have the worst shooting NBA Finals performance in modern day to go along with LBJ's vs the Mavs.
Good assessment:

PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
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Post#374 » by CelticFaninLBC » Fri Jun 17, 2022 6:58 am

Apparently Atlanta had interest in Derrick White.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2952819-nba-head-rumor-intel-latest-on-collins-turner-mccollum-grant-more

White, Grant Williams and a pick for John Collins would help Atlanta on the defensive end, while Boston adds some offensive firepower in Collins.
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Post#375 » by FlatearthZorro » Fri Jun 17, 2022 7:22 am

CelticFaninLBC wrote:Apparently Atlanta had interest in Derrick White.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2952819-nba-head-rumor-intel-latest-on-collins-turner-mccollum-grant-more

White, Grant Williams and a pick for John Collins would help Atlanta on the defensive end, while Boston adds some offensive firepower in Collins.


We need someone to run the offense. Smart is not a real PG, Tatum and Brown have struggled. You need another guy who can give you 5-6 assists on low TO ratio. Rubio, but he's probably going to get more money/years.
Good assessment:

PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
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Post#376 » by FlatearthZorro » Fri Jun 17, 2022 9:23 am

CelticFaninLBC wrote:Apparently Atlanta had interest in Derrick White.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2952819-nba-head-rumor-intel-latest-on-collins-turner-mccollum-grant-more

White, Grant Williams and a pick for John Collins would help Atlanta on the defensive end, while Boston adds some offensive firepower in Collins.


I would try to get Huerter. NO idea how tho, cause he's making 16 mils, but the guy is a legit shooter with a fantastic form. I think he's udnerrated and can average over 10 pts a game in a Celtics uniform while shooting great %.
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PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
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Post#377 » by The Corey's » Fri Jun 17, 2022 10:17 am

I wonder if Mike Conley Jr could do for the Celtics what Paul has done for the sun's?

He has to be available
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Re: Begin to Craft your 2022-23 Celtics Roster 

Post#378 » by chrisab123 » Fri Jun 17, 2022 10:23 am

BostonCouchGM wrote:when we made that disastrous White trade and signed TimeLord and Smart long-term, we pretty much set our team for the foreseeable future. There isn't cap space nor many avenues to improve this roster. This is essentially what you're going to get. With an improved East due to health and young improving teams adding even more talent via lottery picks, making another deep playoff run is very unlikely. Only an unlikely and major trade to shake things up could change that and I honestly don't see it happening. With our little maneuverability at our disposal the moves I'd try to make would be to bring Begarin over, free Pritchard via trade, trade Grant and White (though the market would be non-existant) use our 2nd on a long defensive glue guy type and try hard to sign someone like Bagley. Like I said, this is probably 85-90% of the group that will return next season and that's not a good thing. I'm expecting Tatum wanting out rumors to start this Summer at earliest but by next Summer for sure.


Disastrous? Seriously. They gave up a late rounder this year and a pick swap. Stop whining about the Derrick White deal. They don't make the finals without him. Should they trade him now? Yes. Could they get a real asset for him? Yes. Could his contract be used to match a bigger contract in a trade package? Yes. Checks all the boxes. Out of that entire post your answer to winning is to get Marvin Bagley?
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Post#379 » by BillessuR6 » Fri Jun 17, 2022 10:26 am

I doubt we can get a third star. But just getting two proven veteran scorers/shooters that you can count on in the playoffs should help this team immensly...
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Re: Begin to Craft your 2022-23 Celtics Roster 

Post#380 » by Froob » Fri Jun 17, 2022 10:45 am

Fournier isn’t at the top of my list, but should definitely be considered for the TPE.
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