This is OBVIOUSLY Steph's era- not Lebron's.

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Re: This is OBVIOUSLY Steph's era- not Lebron's. 

Post#21 » by Homer38 » Fri Jun 17, 2022 11:50 am

Goomba3666 wrote:
Homer38 wrote:It is possible to congratulate a player without lowering another player, especially when this player has nothing to do with this year


It's impossible to 'lower' Lebron. He's Lebron. But it's possible to talk objectively about an era. Curry has beat the guy 3x. His 4th time winning is alongside a guy that Lebron didn't think was worthy playing with.

Curry literally turning trash into treasure with Lebron's scraps. Just things to think about.



I think it's impossible to have a good discussion with you

The 4 finals were more than Curry vs LeBron and you know that...Be happy with this championship and Curry knocks on the door of the top 10, which is an incredible achievement
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Post#22 » by Goomba3666 » Fri Jun 17, 2022 11:51 am

WargamesX wrote:Where was this Curry is better than Lebron as Klay was healing and the warriors were in the lottery?


Ahhh. The season where they were still suffering from injuries and Curry broke his hand early in the season?

Pretty much the same place Lebron + AD + Dwight + Melo+ Westbrook are in this season.
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Post#23 » by Stalwart » Fri Jun 17, 2022 11:54 am

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Lockdown504090 wrote:
Goomba3666 wrote:4 rings with the SAME franchise in 7 years.

Won rings with different sets of roles players whom he all made look better. Basically everyone 'fit in'.

Wiggins, who Lebron had traded away to get Kevin Love, FLOURISHED alongside a guy that beat Lebron 3x in the finals in Curry.

Literally gas made EVERY TEAMMATE better by merely just his presence on the floor. From superstars like KD, to players like McGee/Nick Young/Draymond/Zaza Pachulia, to players to Poole & Gary Payton Jr. Unlike Bron, he really makes teammates better and fundamental pieces to the team regardless of the level they're at.

And most of all - NO EXCUSES. This team had major injuries earlier in the season and mid season, but weathered the storm. Him, nor his teammates, aren't in ENDLESS trade rumors during those losing slumps unlike every team Lebron is on. Truly fosters a positive work environment.

The Steph Era. Happy to be a part of it.

you dont have to do this. you dont think steph is a better player, and he objectively doesnt have the accomplishments. Why not just be happy for the great performance?


I don't understand. What am I 'doing'??

Curry's journey to winning has been one of the most impressive I've seen. Truly a story of resilience.

Chronic Ankle pain stemming from a crap ton of Injuries

Curry proving that he's a better long term fit than Mont Ellis.

Growing with Klay and Draymond.

Surviving the embarrassment from 2016 to overcoming injuries to teammates.

All with ONE franchise who believed in him and vice versa.

His 4 rings look and feel different than Lebron's.


I definitely like Stephs titles better than Lebron's for the reasons you mentioned but they aren't necessarily the strongest titles either. 2015 was pretty underwhelming while he has to split credit for the 17 & 18 rings.
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Post#24 » by Goomba3666 » Fri Jun 17, 2022 11:55 am

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Homer38 wrote:It is possible to congratulate a player without lowering another player, especially when this player has nothing to do with this year


It's impossible to 'lower' Lebron. He's Lebron. But it's possible to talk objectively about an era. Curry has beat the guy 3x. His 4th time winning is alongside a guy that Lebron didn't think was worthy playing with.

Curry literally turning trash into treasure with Lebron's scraps. Just things to think about.



I think it's impossible to have a good discussion with you

The 4 finals were more than Curry vs LeBron and you know that...Be happy with this championship and Curry knocks on the door of the top 10, which is an incredible achievement


Not even a large Curry fan. Just speaking objectively. And yes, winning with Wiggins adds another layer of credibility to this being Steph's Era. He's just been a superior winner over this time span while playing in a superior conference.

Not sure what to tell you.
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Post#25 » by SweetTouch » Fri Jun 17, 2022 11:56 am

it must of been difficult to win with wiggins a #1 pick, but then again LBJ won with Iman shumpert and jr smith playing big minutes against a 70+ win team down 3-1
Stop being so disrespectful.
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Post#26 » by Goomba3666 » Fri Jun 17, 2022 11:57 am

Stalwart wrote:
Goomba3666 wrote:
Lockdown504090 wrote:you dont have to do this. you dont think steph is a better player, and he objectively doesnt have the accomplishments. Why not just be happy for the great performance?


I don't understand. What am I 'doing'??

Curry's journey to winning has been one of the most impressive I've seen. Truly a story of resilience.

Chronic Ankle pain stemming from a crap ton of Injuries

Curry proving that he's a better long term fit than Mont Ellis.

Growing with Klay and Draymond.

Surviving the embarrassment from 2016 to overcoming injuries to teammates.

All with ONE franchise who believed in him and vice versa.

His 4 rings look and feel different than Lebron's.


I definitely like Stephs titles better than Lebron's for the reasons you mentioned but they aren't necessarily the strongest titles either. 2015 was pretty underwhelming while he has to split credit for the 17 & 18 rings.


Has zero respect from the Refs back in 2015 and they made Delly look like Gary Payton. Lol.

But he deserved Finals MVP. Really should make people look at that award MUCH differently.
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Post#27 » by lambchop » Fri Jun 17, 2022 11:58 am

DroseReturnChi wrote:
Homer38 wrote:Only if you think that Curry is a top 5 players ever

Read on Twitter


yikes that difference is like close to curry as a player lol. maybe even better.


Yep, that player would have an argument over curry due to the finals MVPs and defensive teams. But Curry is an extremely hard worker. I wouldn't be surprised if he makes defensive teams these next three seasons.
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Post#28 » by Homer38 » Fri Jun 17, 2022 11:59 am

Goomba3666 wrote:
Homer38 wrote:
Goomba3666 wrote:
It's impossible to 'lower' Lebron. He's Lebron. But it's possible to talk objectively about an era. Curry has beat the guy 3x. His 4th time winning is alongside a guy that Lebron didn't think was worthy playing with.

Curry literally turning trash into treasure with Lebron's scraps. Just things to think about.



I think it's impossible to have a good discussion with you

The 4 finals were more than Curry vs LeBron and you know that...Be happy with this championship and Curry knocks on the door of the top 10, which is an incredible achievement


Not even a large Curry fan. Just speaking objectively. And yes, winning with Wiggins adds another layer of credibility to this being Steph's Era. He's just been a superior winner over this time span while playing in a superior conference.

Not sure what to tell you.


Like I said, Curry is knocking on the door of the top 10 of all-time...Of course LeBron is very old now, but that's been his league for over 10 years when at one point he made the finals 9 out of 10 times and win 4 titles and also win 4 MVPs
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Post#29 » by WarriorGM » Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:02 pm

Homer38 wrote:Only if you think that Curry is a top 5 players ever

Read on Twitter


All those are media awards determined off the court not on the court.

I'll put three 67-win seasons, a single season regular season wins record, a single season playoffs wins record and turning around his franchise twice over those made-up awards any day.
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Post#30 » by jehosafats » Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:07 pm

Goomba3666 wrote:4 rings with the SAME franchise in 7 years.

Won rings with different sets of roles players whom he all made look better. Basically everyone 'fit in'.

Wiggins, who Lebron had traded away to get Kevin Love, FLOURISHED alongside a guy that beat Lebron 3x in the finals in Curry.

Literally gas made EVERY TEAMMATE better by merely just his presence on the floor. From superstars like KD, to players like McGee/Nick Young/Draymond/Zaza Pachulia[, to players to Poole & Gary Payton Jr. Unlike Bron, he really makes teammates better and fundamental pieces to the team regardless of the level they're at.

And most of all - NO EXCUSES. This team had major injuries earlier in the season and mid season, but weathered the storm. Him, nor his teammates, aren't in ENDLESS trade rumors during those losing slumps unlike every team Lebron is on. Truly fosters a positive work environment.

The Steph Era. Happy to be a part of it.

*record screech*

And Steph being a point guard in the backcourt makes the Lebron comparison pretty weak. They’ve won the same number of titles, but they don’t play with the same expectations.
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Post#31 » by Goomba3666 » Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:07 pm

Homer38 wrote:
Goomba3666 wrote:
Homer38 wrote:

I think it's impossible to have a good discussion with you

The 4 finals were more than Curry vs LeBron and you know that...Be happy with this championship and Curry knocks on the door of the top 10, which is an incredible achievement


Not even a large Curry fan. Just speaking objectively. And yes, winning with Wiggins adds another layer of credibility to this being Steph's Era. He's just been a superior winner over this time span while playing in a superior conference.

Not sure what to tell you.


Like I said, Curry is knocking on the door of the top 10 of all-time...Of course LeBron is very old now, but that's been his league for over 10 years when at one point he made the finals 9 out of 10 times and win 4 titles and also win 4 MVPs


Making the finals 9 straight times in the East on stacked teams just isn't the accomplishment you think it is. Again, nothing about that accomplishment is organic.

Out in the West, that "finals appearance" thing was DOA. Missed the playoffs and didn't crack 40 wins. Next year they won (in another non-organic way during Covid) and the next two season he got swept by the Suns the moment AD went down & can't crack 40 wins with a team where half the players are hall of of famers.
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Post#32 » by art_tatum » Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:08 pm

2015-2025 imo will be Steph and the warriors era. LeBron gets the little era before that and ofc there's some cross over
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Post#33 » by Homer38 » Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:12 pm

Goomba3666 wrote:
Homer38 wrote:
Goomba3666 wrote:
Not even a large Curry fan. Just speaking objectively. And yes, winning with Wiggins adds another layer of credibility to this being Steph's Era. He's just been a superior winner over this time span while playing in a superior conference.

Not sure what to tell you.


Like I said, Curry is knocking on the door of the top 10 of all-time...Of course LeBron is very old now, but that's been his league for over 10 years when at one point he made the finals 9 out of 10 times and win 4 titles and also win 4 MVPs


Making the finals 9 straight times in the East on stacked teams just isn't the accomplishment you think it is. Again, nothing about that accomplishment is organic.

Out in the West, that "finals appearance" thing was DOA. Missed the playoffs and didn't crack 40 wins. Next year they won (in another non-organic way during Covid) and the next two season he got swept by the Suns the moment AD went down & can't crack 40 wins with a team where half the players are hall of of famers.



Impossible to have a good discussion with you... Impossible

You're just there to belittle LeBron's accomplishments, like making 8 straight finals is easy :roll: :lol: , even if some of his teams were either old, injured or just bad and then you don't know that his injury in 2019 and 2021 had a major impact on the lakers season

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Post#34 » by Goomba3666 » Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:13 pm

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Goomba3666 wrote:4 rings with the SAME franchise in 7 years.

Won rings with different sets of roles players whom he all made look better. Basically everyone 'fit in'.

Wiggins, who Lebron had traded away to get Kevin Love, FLOURISHED alongside a guy that beat Lebron 3x in the finals in Curry.

Literally gas made EVERY TEAMMATE better by merely just his presence on the floor. From superstars like KD, to players like McGee/Nick Young/Draymond/Zaza Pachulia[, to players to Poole & Gary Payton Jr. Unlike Bron, he really makes teammates better and fundamental pieces to the team regardless of the level they're at.

And most of all - NO EXCUSES. This team had major injuries earlier in the season and mid season, but weathered the storm. Him, nor his teammates, aren't in ENDLESS trade rumors during those losing slumps unlike every team Lebron is on. Truly fosters a positive work environment.

The Steph Era. Happy to be a part of it.

*record screech*

And Steph being a point guard in the backcourt makes the Lebron comparison pretty weak. They’ve won the same number of titles, but they don’t play with the same expectations.


Curry at this point has a lot more expectations actually. Lol. He's expected to win with players like Wiggins, Looney, Gpj, Toscano Anderson, and etc.

Meanwhile, people nearly expect LeBron to lose with Westbrook/AD/Rondo/Howard/Melo and etc.

I agree that expectations are vastly different. All of those guys that play on the Warriors would be deemed scrubs alongside Lebron.

Meanwhile, give Curry Howard and I BET MONEY that the Warriors go to another level.
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Post#35 » by lambchop » Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:19 pm

art_tatum wrote:2015-2025 imo will be Steph and the warriors era. LeBron gets the little era before that and ofc there's some cross over


I'd give the dubs the 2017-2025 era. Cavs were injured in 2015 and dubs blew a nice lead in 2016. After that is when they really took off imo by acquiring KD and then going on to win a chip without him. Very impressive indeed.
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Post#36 » by Stalwart » Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:21 pm

Honestly it really depends on how you look at it. It's easy to look back now and see Steph & the Warriors stamp pn the last 8 years and view it has Steph's era. However if were being honest it didn't really feel like that when we were living through it.

Steph's era, as a singular force, actually ended in 2016 when he lost to Lebron and then brought KD on his team. From that point on, whether right or wrong, he was often considered the 3rd best player behind Lebron & KD. I actually think he's been the best player this whole time but I'm not sure the general public has viewed him or this era in that way.
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Post#37 » by Mr Loggins » Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:22 pm

Is this the same steph that needed KD to join his team so he could beat LeBron?
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Post#38 » by rapstarter » Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:27 pm

Mr Loggins wrote:Is this the same steph that needed KD to join his team so he could beat LeBron?


This is the Steph that didn't jump ship 3 times so he could win easy rings. He won before KD and now after KD.
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Post#39 » by nikster » Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:32 pm

Goomba3666 wrote:
Homer38 wrote:
Goomba3666 wrote:
Not even a large Curry fan. Just speaking objectively. And yes, winning with Wiggins adds another layer of credibility to this being Steph's Era. He's just been a superior winner over this time span while playing in a superior conference.

Not sure what to tell you.


Like I said, Curry is knocking on the door of the top 10 of all-time...Of course LeBron is very old now, but that's been his league for over 10 years when at one point he made the finals 9 out of 10 times and win 4 titles and also win 4 MVPs


Making the finals 9 straight times in the East on stacked teams just isn't the accomplishment you think it is. Again, nothing about that accomplishment is organic.

Out in the West, that "finals appearance" thing was DOA. Missed the playoffs and didn't crack 40 wins. Next year they won (in another non-organic way during Covid) and the next two season he got swept by the Suns the moment AD went down & can't crack 40 wins with a team where half the players are hall of of famers.

So you have excuses for Curry missing the playoffs last 2 seasons but those Lakers 2 seasons with Lebron are a stain on his career?

As for the weak East, LeBron's competition wasn't any worse then Stephs. I'd argue 2018 was a more impressive run then Stephs this year, and required a carrry job that Curry never had to approach to get to the finals
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Post#40 » by Impuniti » Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:37 pm

WargamesX wrote:Where was this Curry is better than Lebron as Klay was healing and the warriors were in the lottery?

They were first in the league before Klay came back this season, 60% of the way through. :oops:

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