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Bradley Beal - Part IV

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Re: Bradley Beal - Part IV 

Post#261 » by nate33 » Thu Jun 16, 2022 2:35 pm

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NatP4 wrote:It’s hard to hate a guy for wanting to stay with the team that drafted him for his entire career. It’s not his fault that we have had an incompetent FO for 90% of his career. ...

Agree. I can't understand why there's so much negative attitude about Brad. Obviously an extremely good guy....

I don't think anyone (or very few) on this board have much of a negative attitude regarding Beal. Beal is a good guy and a hard worker who has busted his butt for this organization. What's not to like?

But that doesn't mean we shouldn't want to trade him. We all understand the problem. Beal wants to win now, which impacts our ability to acquire and develop talent. It's just a bad mix to have a win-now vet on a team that needs to rebuild. The clear choice is to trade him for the best package of young assets possible. The trade should have been made 18 months ago. The longer we wait, the lower his trade value becomes, and the longer we delay the necessary rebuild.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part IV 

Post#262 » by DCZards » Thu Jun 16, 2022 3:59 pm

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NatP4 wrote:It’s hard to hate a guy for wanting to stay with the team that drafted him for his entire career. It’s not his fault that we have had an incompetent FO for 90% of his career. ...

Agree. I can't understand why there's so much negative attitude about Brad. Obviously an extremely good guy....

I don't think anyone (or very few) on this board have much of a negative attitude regarding Beal. Beal is a good guy and a hard worker who has busted his butt for this organization. What's not to like?

But that doesn't mean we shouldn't want to trade him. We all understand the problem. Beal wants to win now, which impacts our ability to acquire and develop talent. It's just a bad mix to have a win-now vet on a team that needs to rebuild. The clear choice is to trade him for the best package of young assets possible. The trade should have been made 18 months ago. The longer we wait, the lower his trade value becomes, and the longer we delay the necessary rebuild.

Nate, as always, you make a sound argument for trading Beal. But NatP4 and PIF are right. In recent months the negativity toward BB by some on this board has gone well beyond simply wanting to trade him.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part IV 

Post#263 » by payitforward » Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:32 pm

OTOH, the overall issue -- an organizational reluctance/inability to take the bull by horns -- is real & increasingly evident. As nate points out, the trade should have been made when a) Beal was at the top of his game, & b) it was already evident that this generation of the Wizards was past its prime.

At this point, nothing could be more obvious than that this team needs to rebuild -- right from its center. Whether the seeming utter unwillingness to do it reflects a GM who doesn't have true executive power (i.e. if Ted has mandated limitations: keeping Beal, getting vets to "compete for the playoffs") or whatever else is at the heart of the issue, it is destructive.

In fairness, we did make some radical trades! Above all we moved John & then Russ -- that was a lot to accomplish. & other than John & Brad, Tommy has had very little of value to work with in remolding the team.

Nonetheless, we are nowhere & give no impression of being on the road to somewhere positive.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part IV 

Post#264 » by FAH1223 » Fri Jun 17, 2022 6:14 am

So, is anyone rooting for Brad to take free agent visits and being won over by Pat Rileys of the world?
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part IV 

Post#265 » by StateoftheWiz05 » Fri Jun 17, 2022 2:40 pm

FAH1223 wrote:So, is anyone rooting for Brad to take free agent visits and being won over by Pat Rileys of the world?


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Re: Bradley Beal - Part IV 

Post#266 » by FAH1223 » Sat Jun 18, 2022 5:53 pm

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Re: Bradley Beal - Part IV 

Post#267 » by popper » Sat Jun 18, 2022 6:09 pm

I'm just speculating but I think Beal would be quite happy to finish his career on a 7 or 8 seed team as long as his family is happy and he can make lots of money in the process. It's also probably a plus from his perspective that the pressure to win here is a fraction of what it would be on another franchise that seeks to win a championship.

If true, I'm afraid it's going to continue to be a difficult team to embrace. So no doubt in my mind that the best course of action is to trade him (albeit much later than should have been done.)
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part IV 

Post#268 » by 80sballboy » Sun Jun 19, 2022 12:20 am

I would hope that Beal at least has the decency to tell the team before the draft if he is leaving so they can work out a deal and rebuild the team.


https://theathletic.com/3372446/2022/06/18/bradley-beal-wizards-future/

Beal attempted to keep the focus on the court unveiling, but he could not avoid answering questions about two topics of significant importance to the NBA: his recovery from a ligament tear in his non-shooting wrist and his upcoming decision on whether to remain with the Washington Wizards, the only team he’s ever played for in his 10 NBA seasons.

In an interview with The Athletic, Beal said he has made up his mind about his playing future but declined to disclose his decision, saying it would be improper to discuss any potential future contract while he’s still fulfilling his current contract.

But Beal said previously that he was leaning toward remaining with the Wizards, and he’s giving no indications that his mind has changed. Team officials have said they want to retain Beal for the long term, and in a show of support, Wizards president and general manager Tommy Sheppard and Wizards head coach Wes Unseld Jr. attended Saturday’s court dedication event.

Beal is expected to decline his $36.4 million player option for the 2022-23 season and become an unrestricted free agent when the NBA’s free-agency period starts in nearly two weeks. Because the Wizards hold Beal’s Bird rights, the Wizards are the only team that can offer him a five-year contract. That contract could be worth up to a maximum total of nearly $248 million.

Under league rules, the longest and most expensive contract Beal could sign with any other team would be a four-year deal worth a maximum total of roughly $184 million, even if it’s a sign-and-trade transaction. The Wizards would not be allowed to complete a sign-and-trade involving Beal without Beal’s consent.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part IV 

Post#269 » by FAH1223 » Sun Jun 19, 2022 3:34 am

80sballboy wrote:I would hope that Beal at least has the decency to tell the team before the draft if he is leaving so they can work out a deal and rebuild the team.


https://theathletic.com/3372446/2022/06/18/bradley-beal-wizards-future/

Beal attempted to keep the focus on the court unveiling, but he could not avoid answering questions about two topics of significant importance to the NBA: his recovery from a ligament tear in his non-shooting wrist and his upcoming decision on whether to remain with the Washington Wizards, the only team he’s ever played for in his 10 NBA seasons.

In an interview with The Athletic, Beal said he has made up his mind about his playing future but declined to disclose his decision, saying it would be improper to discuss any potential future contract while he’s still fulfilling his current contract.

But Beal said previously that he was leaning toward remaining with the Wizards, and he’s giving no indications that his mind has changed. Team officials have said they want to retain Beal for the long term, and in a show of support, Wizards president and general manager Tommy Sheppard and Wizards head coach Wes Unseld Jr. attended Saturday’s court dedication event.

Beal is expected to decline his $36.4 million player option for the 2022-23 season and become an unrestricted free agent when the NBA’s free-agency period starts in nearly two weeks. Because the Wizards hold Beal’s Bird rights, the Wizards are the only team that can offer him a five-year contract. That contract could be worth up to a maximum total of nearly $248 million.

Under league rules, the longest and most expensive contract Beal could sign with any other team would be a four-year deal worth a maximum total of roughly $184 million, even if it’s a sign-and-trade transaction. The Wizards would not be allowed to complete a sign-and-trade involving Beal without Beal’s consent.


It’s pretty clear to me that he’s made his decision to re-sign.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part IV 

Post#270 » by Gig18 » Sun Jun 19, 2022 4:29 am

This from Hoopshype late:

In an interview with The Athletic, Beal said he has made up his mind about his playing future but declined to disclose his decision, saying it would be improper to discuss any potential future contract while he’s still fulfilling his current contract. 5 hours ago – via Josh Robbins @ The Athletic
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part IV 

Post#271 » by FAH1223 » Sun Jun 19, 2022 5:51 am

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Re: Bradley Beal - Part IV 

Post#272 » by nate33 » Sun Jun 19, 2022 12:37 pm

80sballboy wrote:I would hope that Beal at least has the decency to tell the team before the draft if he is leaving so they can work out a deal and rebuild the team.

It's not really too much of a concern. The only team out there that can sign Beal to near-max money is San Antonio. Anyone else who wants him is going to be much better off trying to arrange a sign-and-trade with Washington rather than making moves to dump contracts to generate cap space.

Beal won't leave for nothing. We won't get back what we would have gotten had we traded him 18 months ago, but we will get back a decent package of late 1st round picks.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part IV 

Post#273 » by lastemp3ror » Sun Jun 19, 2022 1:03 pm

If Brad is here next season, I am done with this team for a few years, which is how long it will take for them to get out of the contract and have no choice but to rebuild. Rebuilding is what should be happening right now.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part IV 

Post#274 » by PaulinVA » Sun Jun 19, 2022 3:06 pm

FAH1223 wrote:
80sballboy wrote:I would hope that Beal at least has the decency to tell the team before the draft if he is leaving so they can work out a deal and rebuild the team.


https://theathletic.com/3372446/2022/06/18/bradley-beal-wizards-future/

Beal attempted to keep the focus on the court unveiling, but he could not avoid answering questions about two topics of significant importance to the NBA: his recovery from a ligament tear in his non-shooting wrist and his upcoming decision on whether to remain with the Washington Wizards, the only team he’s ever played for in his 10 NBA seasons.

In an interview with The Athletic, Beal said he has made up his mind about his playing future but declined to disclose his decision, saying it would be improper to discuss any potential future contract while he’s still fulfilling his current contract.

But Beal said previously that he was leaning toward remaining with the Wizards, and he’s giving no indications that his mind has changed. Team officials have said they want to retain Beal for the long term, and in a show of support, Wizards president and general manager Tommy Sheppard and Wizards head coach Wes Unseld Jr. attended Saturday’s court dedication event.

Beal is expected to decline his $36.4 million player option for the 2022-23 season and become an unrestricted free agent when the NBA’s free-agency period starts in nearly two weeks. Because the Wizards hold Beal’s Bird rights, the Wizards are the only team that can offer him a five-year contract. That contract could be worth up to a maximum total of nearly $248 million.

Under league rules, the longest and most expensive contract Beal could sign with any other team would be a four-year deal worth a maximum total of roughly $184 million, even if it’s a sign-and-trade transaction. The Wizards would not be allowed to complete a sign-and-trade involving Beal without Beal’s consent.


It’s pretty clear to me that he’s made his decision to re-sign.


Not a jab at you, but if he's re-signing, why all the continued mystery? Why keep it a secret if he's staying here? I was thinking this secrecy is because he has decided to leave. Also, what contract is he still fulfilling if he's ostensibly a free agent in two weeks?

You guys are better at decrypting this stuff than I am, but I wanted to ask.

Can't wait for Thursday, I hope! :lol:

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Re: Bradley Beal - Part IV 

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Re: Bradley Beal - Part IV 

Post#276 » by pcbothwel » Sun Jun 19, 2022 3:39 pm

nate33 wrote:
80sballboy wrote:I would hope that Beal at least has the decency to tell the team before the draft if he is leaving so they can work out a deal and rebuild the team.

It's not really too much of a concern. The only team out there that can sign Beal to near-max money is San Antonio. Anyone else who wants him is going to be much better off trying to arrange a sign-and-trade with Washington rather than making moves to dump contracts to generate cap space.

Beal won't leave for nothing. We won't get back what we would have gotten had we traded him 18 months ago, but we will get back a decent package of late 1st round picks.


Nate... Hes resigning.
He's doing active stuff in the community and stating he has made up his mind.
You think he would of already decided where to go, his contract, and the mechanics of any necessary trade a week before the NBA draft and 2 weeks before the start of FA?

He has told Tommy he's back to give him room to maneuver over the next two weeks is my best guess.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part IV 

Post#277 » by JWizmentality » Sun Jun 19, 2022 4:02 pm

I dunno, I'm getting the feeling a sign and trade incoming.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part IV 

Post#278 » by ProcessDoctor » Sun Jun 19, 2022 5:12 pm

Seems like he's staying for sure. IDK why he said his free agency would be "crazy" though.
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Post#279 » by montestewart » Sun Jun 19, 2022 5:29 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:Seems like he's staying for sure. IDK why he said his free agency would be "crazy" though.

Adding mystique to the Beal brand?
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part IV 

Post#280 » by NatP4 » Sun Jun 19, 2022 5:52 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:Seems like he's staying for sure. IDK why he said his free agency would be "crazy" though.



Definitely just wants to mess with the media and the internet. He’s signing a 5 year deal and it’s obvious. Don’t think it’s a supermax though.

Wiz are going to do everything they can to land Dyson Daniels on draft night.

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