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Post#341 » by GTR11 » Fri Jun 17, 2022 8:21 am

TheNetsFan wrote:Christian Wood has not lasted more than 1-2 seasons on an NBA or G-League team. He's 26 and he's now onto his 7th NBA team. I believe I read he was also on 5 different G-League teams. Don't lose sleep over this. I believe Windrem reported years back that Marks basically had him on a do not touch list.

7 teams in 7 years and had issues going everywhere. Made less than 50m while being top 15 talent according to few gm's.

He just more luckier T.Will if we being frank. Probably his last chance in nba.
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Post#342 » by GTR11 » Fri Jun 17, 2022 8:23 am

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Post#343 » by Tha King » Fri Jun 17, 2022 11:13 pm

If Brown and Claxton return all that would really be needed is a five that could space the floor a bit. You could then possibly start Brown and Simmons together which could be a great defensive duo on the perimeter. Another wing for depth would be great too.

How about Thomas Bryant (mMLE) and Torrey Craig (TPE)?

Irving/Curry/Mills
Brown/Harris/Thomas
Durant/Edwards/
Simmons/Craig/
Bryant/Claxton/Sharpe

If Brown and Claxton keep improving and the rookies make any jumps (specifically Sharpe/Edwards) could actually have great depth
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Post#344 » by MrDollarBills » Sat Jun 18, 2022 12:17 am

Tha King wrote:If Brown and Claxton return all that would really be needed is a five that could space the floor a bit. You could then possibly start Brown and Simmons together which could be a great defensive duo on the perimeter. Another wing for depth would be great too.

How about Thomas Bryant (mMLE) and Torrey Craig (TPE)?

Irving/Curry/Mills
Brown/Harris/Thomas
Durant/Edwards/
Simmons/Craig/
Bryant/Claxton/Sharpe

If Brown and Claxton keep improving and the rookies make any jumps (specifically Sharpe/Edwards) could actually have great depth


I was thinking that Bryant might be a target. He had a rough time coming back from injury, but his last healthy season he shot 40% from deep on decent volume.

It's a risk though.

Also, we can't play Simmons and Brown together, unless Bruce's 40% from deep isn't a fluke. But i think Brown is gone. He's a good young guard that fills up the stat sheet. Someone will pay.
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Post#345 » by GTR11 » Sun Jun 19, 2022 7:55 pm

Welp there goes Nic, Dragic ain't coming back either, he will join Mavs. Let's see what market Brown has. Won't mind him coming back.

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Post#346 » by MrDollarBills » Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:48 pm

GTR11 wrote:Welp there goes Nic, Dragic ain't coming back either, he will join Mavs. Let's see what market Brown has. Won't mind him coming back.

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I'll believe it when the info is coming from a Nets beat reporter and not a Rockets one
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Post#347 » by TheNetsFan » Mon Jun 20, 2022 1:27 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
GTR11 wrote:Welp there goes Nic, Dragic ain't coming back either, he will join Mavs. Let's see what market Brown has. Won't mind him coming back.

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I'll believe it when the info is coming from a Nets beat reporter and not a Rockets one

The Nets likely have a limit to how far they'll go to match Nic. I don't think that limit is less than the MLE, which is all the Rockets can offer. If they do let him walk that means either they view Simmons primarily as a C or they don't trust Claxton's availability/durability.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Claxton be part of a sign and trade.
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Post#348 » by MGrand15 » Mon Jun 20, 2022 1:41 pm

The buzz is getting louder on Kyrie leaving. I don't really see a path to being a contender if Kyrie leaves. Or a path to actually getting decent assets for him. Maybe I'm missing something.
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Post#349 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Jun 20, 2022 1:42 pm

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This clown probably thinks he deserves the full max. I'm over him and all of his idiocy.
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Post#350 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Jun 20, 2022 1:54 pm

MGrand15 wrote:The buzz is getting louder on Kyrie leaving. I don't really see a path to being a contender if Kyrie leaves. Or a path to actually getting decent assets for him. Maybe I'm missing something.


Nope, we are screwed. No one is giving up anything of value for him, the most we might fetch is Westbrook from the Lakers. That's not going to cut it.

KD will probably request a trade next. If we can recoup picks/prospects at this point for him we don't have much of a choice.

This has been a colossal failure, and it should end with Marks being dismissed.
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Post#351 » by mademan » Mon Jun 20, 2022 2:00 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:Let the circus begin

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This clown probably thinks he deserves the full max. I'm over him and all of his idiocy.


Deserve has nothing to do with it. If the Knicks or Lakers are willing to give him the full max, he's worth the full max. Im surprised anybody would be shocked at this news. Kyrie does not come off as a guy that would make it easy on the Nets
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Post#352 » by Born_Ready » Mon Jun 20, 2022 2:10 pm

I wonder what the conversation between KD & Kyrie has been like thus far. Billy King swung and miss when he went all in for a championship run, and now it feels like Sean Marks is Billy 2.0
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Post#353 » by MGrand15 » Mon Jun 20, 2022 2:11 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
MGrand15 wrote:The buzz is getting louder on Kyrie leaving. I don't really see a path to being a contender if Kyrie leaves. Or a path to actually getting decent assets for him. Maybe I'm missing something.


Nope, we are screwed. No one is giving up anything of value for him, the most we might fetch is Westbrook from the Lakers. That's not going to cut it.

KD will probably request a trade next. If we can recoup picks/prospects at this point for him we don't have much of a choice.

This has been a colossal failure, and it should end with Marks being dismissed.


It's way more likely we end up getting a deal done. We all knew the Nets would try to play hardball in negotiations. The article doesn't really lay anything out that's realistic. Just that Kyrie is considering looking at other teams. We'll see though.
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Post#354 » by TheNetsFan » Mon Jun 20, 2022 2:12 pm

mademan wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:Let the circus begin

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This clown probably thinks he deserves the full max. I'm over him and all of his idiocy.


Deserve has nothing to do with it. If the Knicks or Lakers are willing to give him the full max, he's worth the full max. Im surprised anybody would be shocked at this news. Kyrie does not come off as a guy that would make it easy on the Nets

Here's the issue. Knicks and Lakers are capped out. The Nets aren't taking Westbrook or Randle+Fournier for Kyrie, so it doesn't matter if either team is willing to max him.
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Post#355 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Jun 20, 2022 2:19 pm

mademan wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:Let the circus begin

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This clown probably thinks he deserves the full max. I'm over him and all of his idiocy.


Deserve has nothing to do with it. If the Knicks or Lakers are willing to give him the full max, he's worth the full max. Im surprised anybody would be shocked at this news. Kyrie does not come off as a guy that would make it easy on the Nets



If the Knicks or Lakers think he deserves the full max, by all means. He had one good game in the playoffs and then mailed it in.
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Post#356 » by mademan » Mon Jun 20, 2022 2:25 pm

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mademan wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:Let the circus begin

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This clown probably thinks he deserves the full max. I'm over him and all of his idiocy.


Deserve has nothing to do with it. If the Knicks or Lakers are willing to give him the full max, he's worth the full max. Im surprised anybody would be shocked at this news. Kyrie does not come off as a guy that would make it easy on the Nets

Here's the issue. Knicks and Lakers are capped out. The Nets aren't taking Westbrook or Randle+Fournier for Kyrie, so it doesn't matter if either team is willing to max him.


ofc it does. There are avenues like opt-in,trade+extend. The point is, i am sure that teams like the Lakers/Lebron/AD are talking to Kyrie behind the scenes and telling him they'd give him what he's looking for. The Nets dont have to do anything, obv, but the Nets both not paying him AND standing in the way of him being paid isnt exactly ideal from Kyrie's POV.

Like i said weeks ago, this was gonna happen. Some team(s) are willing to pay Kyrie but the Nets are not. Which means either the Nets trade him for an underwhelming package or they play a game of chicken with Kyrie. And I have doubts that Kyrie would ever submit and take less than market value for the Nets sake.
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Post#357 » by IceManBK1 » Mon Jun 20, 2022 2:26 pm

3 team trade b/w nets, knicks and timberwolves

Kyrie, Malik Beasley, Taurean Prince(Sign and Trade) go to Knicks
Simmons, Kemba go to Timberwolves
Dangelo Russell, Jaden McDaniels, Randle and Mitchell Robinson(Sign and Trade) to Nets

why for knicks..get superstar PG, get rid of Randle, get a knock down 3 pt shooter and 3D guy in return
why for timberwolves..move on from dlo, get lockdown PF to pair with towns and more athletic starting PG.
why for nets..build a more balanced team. Net a big return for Irving and Simmons.

Dlo
Joe Harris
Durant
Randle
Mitchell Robinson

Resign Drummonds

Curry
Mills
Bruce Brown
Blake Griffin
Drummonds
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Post#358 » by mg » Mon Jun 20, 2022 3:42 pm

IceManBK1 wrote:3 team trade b/w nets, knicks and timberwolves

Kyrie, Malik Beasley, Taurean Prince(Sign and Trade) go to Knicks
Simmons, Kemba go to Timberwolves
Dangelo Russell, Jaden McDaniels, Randle and Mitchell Robinson(Sign and Trade) to Nets

why for knicks..get superstar PG, get rid of Randle, get a knock down 3 pt shooter and 3D guy in return
why for timberwolves..move on from dlo, get lockdown PF to pair with towns and more athletic starting PG.
why for nets..build a more balanced team. Net a big return for Irving and Simmons.

Dlo
Joe Harris
Durant
Randle
Mitchell Robinson

Resign Drummonds

Curry
Mills
Bruce Brown
Blake Griffin
Drummonds


There's no way the Nets consider anything like this.
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Post#359 » by 3pt_chucker » Mon Jun 20, 2022 3:54 pm

I don't care if we can't trust Kyrie. He CANNOT be allowed to leave for nothing.

If the team doesn't want him back at a max, he must be flipped for good pieces.

Anything else is an absolute failure by Marks and a fireable offense.
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Post#360 » by mg » Mon Jun 20, 2022 3:55 pm

MGrand15 wrote:The buzz is getting louder on Kyrie leaving. I don't really see a path to being a contender if Kyrie leaves. Or a path to actually getting decent assets for him. Maybe I'm missing something.


Is there any way to replace Kyrie with another scoring guard? I'm thinking Collin Sexton which would be ironic since he was drafted with the Nets pick that Cle received when they dealt Kyrie to Boston. The Cavs are going with Garland as their small guard of the future. Marks could work out some convoluted 3 way trade? Maybe just let Kyrie walk and do a s&t with Cleveland for Sexton who is also a Klutch client along with Simmons. Klutch kinda owes the Nets after they rescued Simmons this past season.
Maybe send over Curry or Harris to Cle in a s&t if they can work out a contract for Sexton. Just trying to think outside the box to replace Kyrie as a scoring guard next to KD/Simmons. I would not let Kyrie destroy this era of Nets basketball.

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