***Official 2021-22 Offseason Thread***

[BigO]

More likely than not that Kyrie resigns with Nets. This is a planted story. Doesn't mean there aren't snags in the negotiations, but these are tactics used in every tough bargain.

[Netaman]

I don't know what's possible to get for Kyrie, but maxing him out is a desperate move he hasn't earned so i think this is the right call. the most important ability is availability and he has a habit of not being available for his teams. injuries aren't always in a players control but that doesn't make them any less crushing, as they were for Kyrie's CLE, BOS, and BKN teams.

Then add in the circus this past year where he chose unavailability. And his AWOL stretch last year. Either he wants to be here or someone else can take the risks with him.

I too am fascinated at the KD dynamic here. This offseason feels very much like a choice for him between championship or friendship, with Kyrie unable to commit to both.

[MGrand15]

Reminder: DLo just got benched in the playoffs for Jordan McLaughlin. Our G League point guard during his time here. He just had a playoff series even worse than the terrible one he had here. His efficiency stats are still well below average. He did this as the third option on a team that was very well balanced. Minnesota has him in the perfect role and he's still just an average guard who can't handle playoff intensity.

[NetsWorld]

People on twitter are quick to criticize Sean Marks, and even here....But who is to say Marks didn't tell Kyrie that he had to be available for x amount of games for his salary to be guaranteed? Kyrie does what he wants to do and doesn't care about his team. Boston and Cleveland both know it. He lied to Boston and now he's being exposed even more and lied to Kevin about coming back. KD should NOT tie himself to Kyrie's decision as Kyrie is clearly showing he cannot be trusted and doesn't give on iota about Kevin. KD is just so immature and insecure if he is really tying his decision to stay here based on Kyrie's decision. KD/Simmons/a third star would still be enough to keep this team competitive.

[Hello Brooklyn]

This is an unthinkable move for the Nets.

At worst you should sign Kyrie and trade him at the deadline.

Why would you trade him now for nothing?

Lakers/Clippers have literally nothing to offer.

This team will not even be close to contending with KD, Simmons and nothing else.

We lose Kyrie without getting another star, we lose Durant. And then what?

Unless there is a secret plan to get back Bradley Beal this idea sucks. Marks is a moron.

First he trades for bum ass Harden. Then he hires Steve Trash. Now this ****? I'm done with this moron. Fire him now.

[MrDollarBills]

Kyrie's not going to walk for nothing, the Nets will have to help facilitate any move to a team over the cap.

I would try to get multiple teams involved to try to get as many veteran pieces as possible. Myles Turner, Malcolm Brogdon, Tyler Herro, I don't care.

I'm going to be honest with you guys. Our championship window was shut after our loss to Milwaukee. Harden was out, Kyrie sabotaged the season after that. Kyrie did nothing to convince me against Boston that he is worth anything he brings to the table.

If KD wants to leave, by all means the asking price starts at 4 1st round picks. I don't give a f*ck anymore. This entire experience with KD and Kyrie has been miserable.

[MrDollarBills]

This is an unthinkable move for the Nets.

At worst you should sign Kyrie and trade him at the deadline.

Why would you trade him now for nothing?

Lakers/Clippers have literally nothing to offer.

This team will not even be close to contending with KD, Simmons and nothing else.

We lose Kyrie without getting another star, we lose Durant. And then what?

Unless there is a secret plan to get back Bradley Beal this idea sucks. Marks is a moron.

First he trades for bum ass Harden. Then he hires Steve Trash. Now this ****? I'm done with this moron. Fire him now.

Irving, Durant, Marks, Nash can all go. I don't care. This is a disaster.

[mg]

I think twitter was only invented so people can arm chair quarterback and criticize online. Posters on the GB are having a field day. Marks is going to make the best decision for the Nets moving forward. I still think Sexton would be a good replacement for Kyrie. At least he will show up and play hard every day. He also needs to be playing off a big playmaker which Cavs never had on their roster. He averaged 24PPG just 2 seasons ago on high efficiency as a 22 year old. Beal would obviously be the gold standard of scoring guards but not sure the Nets have the assets for that type of move.

Bottomline Marks was able to sign KD regardless of Kyrie's role in it. Fans need to stick by the team now instead of grabbing pitchforks with the twitter crowd. I'm hoping to be pleasantly surprised with the team next season.

[mg]

Kyrie's not going to walk for nothing, the Nets will have to help facilitate any move to a team over the cap.

I would try to get multiple teams involved to try to get as many veteran pieces as possible. Myles Turner, Malcolm Brogdon, Tyler Herro, I don't care.

I'm going to be honest with you guys. Our championship window was shut after our loss to Milwaukee. Harden was out, Kyrie sabotaged the season after that. Kyrie did nothing to convince me against Boston that he is worth anything he brings to the table.

If KD wants to leave, by all means the asking price starts at 4 1st round picks. I don't give a f*ck anymore. This entire experience with KD and Kyrie has been miserable.

The Indy guys might be a good idea but from what understand the Pacers are overvaluing them and want multiple FRP's. Based on what Kyrie provided the past few seasons it's not going to be difficult to replace him as Boston found out. The key is to get KD on board with any future dealings. The NBA seems wide open at this point. I don't see the Celtics or current Warriors as any type of juggernaut. Marks needs to keep calm and make 1-2 decent moves here. Warriors just won a championship with Wiggins as their 2nd best player.

[Hello Brooklyn]

I think Kyrie is putting this out there to threaten us. Were not offering him a full max.

The real question is. Will anyone else give it to him?

The Knicks are the only team that can sign him outright. Would they actually do it?

Then we lose our leverage.

[mg]

I think Kyrie is putting this out there to threaten us. Were not offering him a full max.

The real question is. Will anyone else give it to him?

The Knicks are the only team that can sign him outright. Would they actually do it?

Then we lose our leverage.

This is likely coming from Kyrie's management team. These agents always talk thru the media.

The Nets probably should NOT be offering Kyrie the max but you can't control what other stupid teams will do.

Bottomline the Nets need to keep communication open with KD. As long as you have one superstar you can win a ring. Warriors just did it with Curry and a very weak supporting cast. That alone should motivate KD next season.

To me Kyrie is just a huge agitator. Nice talent but not good for team chemistry. He already caused chaos in two previous lockerrooms..it's just who he is.

[MrDollarBills]

I think Kyrie is putting this out there to threaten us. Were not offering him a full max.

The real question is. Will anyone else give it to him?

The Knicks are the only team that can sign him outright. Would they actually do it?

Then we lose our leverage.

This is likely coming from Kyrie's management team. These agents always talk thru the media.

The Nets probably should NOT be offering Kyrie the max but you can't control what other stupid teams will do.

Bottomline the Nets need to keep communication open with KD. As long as you have one superstar you can win a ring. Warriors just did it with Curry and a very weak supporting cast. That alone should motivate KD next season.

To me Kyrie is just a huge agitator. Nice talent but not good for team chemistry. He already caused chaos in two previous lockerrooms..it's just who he is.

I'll try to be positive for a bit:

We have KD and Simmons, which are a good compliment to each other. We have shooters. We can go over the cap to retain Claxton. We have some 2nd year players with decent upside coming into this fall. we have the MLE to use and vet minimum contracts. Flipping Kyrie for multiple veteran pieces that can contribute around what we have could be addition by subtraction.

KD had the Nets #1 in the East before he got hurt, and this is without Kyrie, and Harden being awful.

Trading Kyrie may be the move that sets this ship right, because lets be real: outside of Nash being terrible, and the Nets getting hit with injuries, Kyrie has been absolute cancer.

The Nets can use a 3 + D wing, a PG that can create shots for others, and a stretch 5. If we can address two of those areas of need in a multi team trade involving Kyrie, I will be more than glad to bid Kyrie farewell.

[Hello Brooklyn]

I think Kyrie is putting this out there to threaten us. Were not offering him a full max.

The real question is. Will anyone else give it to him?

The Knicks are the only team that can sign him outright. Would they actually do it?

Then we lose our leverage.

This is likely coming from Kyrie's management team. These agents always talk thru the media.

The Nets probably should NOT be offering Kyrie the max but you can't control what other stupid teams will do.

Bottomline the Nets need to keep communication open with KD. As long as you have one superstar you can win a ring. Warriors just did it with Curry and a very weak supporting cast. That alone should motivate KD next season.

To me Kyrie is just a huge agitator. Nice talent but not good for team chemistry. He already caused chaos in two previous lockerrooms..it's just who he is.

I'll try to be positive for a bit:

We have KD and Simmons, which are a good compliment to each other. We have shooters. We can go over the cap to retain Claxton. We have some 2nd year players with decent upside coming into this fall. we have the MLE to use and vet minimum contracts. Flipping Kyrie for multiple veteran pieces that can contribute around what we have could be addition by subtraction.

KD had the Nets #1 in the East before he got hurt, and this is without Kyrie, and Harden being awful.

Trading Kyrie may be the move that sets this ship right, because lets be real: outside of Nash being terrible, and the Nets getting hit with injuries, Kyrie has been absolute cancer.

The Nets can use a 3 + D wing, a PG that can create shots for others, and a stretch 5. If we can address two of those areas of need in a multi team trade involving Kyrie, I will be more than glad to bid Kyrie farewell.

Simmons is nowhere near ready to be the 2nd option on a Championship team.

Last time we saw him play he was unplayable in the last few minutes.

KD is too old to carry a team by himself. He needs a player like Kyrie.

I'm not jumping ship on Kyrie when we get nothing back. It would be a disastrous move.

[Eatgreenz]

This is likely coming from Kyrie's management team. These agents always talk thru the media.

The Nets probably should NOT be offering Kyrie the max but you can't control what other stupid teams will do.

Bottomline the Nets need to keep communication open with KD. As long as you have one superstar you can win a ring. Warriors just did it with Curry and a very weak supporting cast. That alone should motivate KD next season.

To me Kyrie is just a huge agitator. Nice talent but not good for team chemistry. He already caused chaos in two previous lockerrooms..it's just who he is.

I'll try to be positive for a bit:

We have KD and Simmons, which are a good compliment to each other. We have shooters. We can go over the cap to retain Claxton. We have some 2nd year players with decent upside coming into this fall. we have the MLE to use and vet minimum contracts. Flipping Kyrie for multiple veteran pieces that can contribute around what we have could be addition by subtraction.

KD had the Nets #1 in the East before he got hurt, and this is without Kyrie, and Harden being awful.

Trading Kyrie may be the move that sets this ship right, because lets be real: outside of Nash being terrible, and the Nets getting hit with injuries, Kyrie has been absolute cancer.

The Nets can use a 3 + D wing, a PG that can create shots for others, and a stretch 5. If we can address two of those areas of need in a multi team trade involving Kyrie, I will be more than glad to bid Kyrie farewell.

Simmons is nowhere near ready to be the 2nd option on a Championship team.

Last time we saw him play he was unplayable in the last few minutes.

KD is too old to carry a team by himself. He needs a player like Kyrie.

I'm not jumping ship on Kyrie when we get nothing back. It would be a disastrous move.

Yea we need to have another bucket getter if this kyrie stuff is even true. Cant put all the pressure on KD to score.

[Netaman]

random idea - does something around Kyrie for Dinwiddie++ work?

Mavs don't have many ways to get a stud around Luka, and that would be a good situation for Kyrie to thrive spot up.

Dinwiddie comes back and hopefully bring some positive vibes back to the org while taking over most of Kyrie's minutes. Maybe grab some picks/filler that can be flipped for a big.

[CalamityX12]

This whole situation was brought in by Kyrie. He did this to himself, ain't shedding a tear. He's been a true obstacle rather than a cornerstone to a winning program.

I think in the end Kyrie will pick up his PO... the only thing that makes sense as of right now. Irving won't leave $$$ on the table ... if there is a divorce, S&T his ass.

If KD is against it, then bye too. **** sucks, but I want winners and I want players committed to winning and bringing a chip to the team/franchise. Enough of the buddy system, gtfo if that's the case. The organization, bent over backwards to accommodate these clowns over and over. I heard Perkins mentioning that moving KI will anger KD, f that. KD has no reason to feel that way. He should be angry AF at KI not at us. We listened to his dumbass request of putting Nash in as Coach and trading away our soul for Harden.

Bravo to the organization for holding to their ground. If Kyrie wants to walk, good luck and thank you for your limited participation and attention to the team and fanbase.

[Hello Brooklyn]

random idea - does something around Kyrie for Dinwiddie++ work?

Mavs don't have many ways to get a stud around Luka, and that would be a good situation for Kyrie to thrive spot up.

Dinwiddie comes back and hopefully bring some positive vibes back to the org while taking over most of Kyrie's minutes. Maybe grab some picks/filler that can be flipped for a big.

Dinwiddie is nowhere near good enough to be the 2nd option on a Championship team. Its not going to work.

[Hello Brooklyn]

This whole situation was brought in by Kyrie. He did this to himself, ain't shedding a tear. He's been a true obstacle rather than a cornerstone to a winning program.

I think in the end Kyrie will pick up his PO... the only thing that makes sense as of right now. Irving won't leave $$$ on the table ... if there is a divorce, S&T his ass.

If KD is against it, then bye too. **** sucks, but I want winners and I want players committed to winning and bringing a chip to the team/franchise. Enough of the buddy system, gtfo if that's the case. The organization, bent over backwards to accommodate these clowns over and over. I heard Perkins mentioning that moving KI will anger KD, f that. KD has no reason to feel that way. He should be angry AF at KI not at us. We listened to his dumbass request of putting Nash in as Coach and trading away our soul for Harden.

Bravo to the organization for holding to their ground. If Kyrie wants to walk, good luck and thank you for your limited participation and attention to the team and fanbase.

What would be the point? To stick it to Kyrie?

As long as we have Kevin Durant and Kyrie on this roster we have a chance to compete.

What is the alternative?

Do we have any picks? NO.

We can't even rebuild. Bring back Ky, Simmons and run it back. Enough of the BS.

[Stone]

Kyrie for Sexton and Big Jay......Although Cleveland might not want him back lol

[Netaman]

random idea - does something around Kyrie for Dinwiddie++ work?

Mavs don't have many ways to get a stud around Luka, and that would be a good situation for Kyrie to thrive spot up.

Dinwiddie comes back and hopefully bring some positive vibes back to the org while taking over most of Kyrie's minutes. Maybe grab some picks/filler that can be flipped for a big.

Dinwiddie is nowhere near good enough to be the 2nd option on a Championship team. Its not going to work.

they aren't getting a 2nd superstar for Kyrie and without Kyrie they may not be a championship team to start the year. Simmons will almost definitely be the second guy because it's hard to envision them adding someone better than him. Curry and Harris will need to be their best selves, which should be good enough to be the 3rd/4th best scores on a champ team. Maybe Cam Thomas can be next year's Jordan Poole.

but re Kyrie, at best they will replace some of his production and build a solid team around KD so they can be in position to buy another superstar later if necessary. if there was a super star they could trade him for they probably would have done so already.