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Re: Shams: Kyrie Irving, Nets are at impasse in conversations about his future in Brooklyn 

Post#61 » by SK21209 » Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:11 pm

Homer38 wrote:I think Kyrie expect a 4 years max contract,so he will opt out for sure,the question will be if one team will offer him what he want?


To the contrary, I think he wants a full 4 year max but no team with cap space will give him that. So if he wants the full 4 year max, he will have to get it from an over the cap team he is traded to. The best chance for him to do that is for him to opt in and get traded with the understanding of a max extension.
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Post#63 » by jfs1000d » Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:12 pm

Lol.

Kyrie is a franchise killer.


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Re: Shams: Kyrie Irving, Nets are at impasse in conversations about his future in Brooklyn 

Post#64 » by jfs1000d » Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:13 pm

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FeatheryTouch wrote:Kyrie to the Knicks please, just for the comedy(and drama).



I don't think Thibs who requires max effort on every defensive possession and Kyrie would be a good fit!

Thins and Kyrie? Have to fire thibs. He will bench kyrie defensively.


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Re: Shams: Kyrie Irving, Nets are at impasse in conversations about his future in Brooklyn 

Post#65 » by jfs1000d » Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:15 pm

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zshawn10 wrote:[Stephen A. Smith] Kyrie Irving last season would conduct his own team practices after Steve Nash



A little more explanation and details would be helpful. Was it essentially a group of motivated guys staying longer to get shots up, do 1on1s and work on their games or was Kyrie really the coach that had a different set of plays? I doubt guys were really willing to do two consecutive full practices aka 4 hours in a row because of the fatigue and the wear and tear. The skillwork, 1 on 1s and shooting would make a lot of sense.


Well and Stephen A is not the most reliable with insider information either

What u talking about? Stephen A is about as plugged in as anyone. Lol. If you do t like him, just say so. He is polarizing. But the info? He doesn’t go on tv unless he has it nailed.


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Re: Shams: Kyrie Irving, Nets are at impasse in conversations about his future in Brooklyn 

Post#66 » by TheNewEra » Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:15 pm

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lambchop wrote:
A little more explanation and details would be helpful. Was it essentially a group of motivated guys staying longer to get shots up, do 1on1s and work on their games or was Kyrie really the coach that had a different set of plays? I doubt guys were really willing to do two consecutive full practices aka 4 hours in a row because of the fatigue and the wear and tear. The skillwork, 1 on 1s and shooting would make a lot of sense.

More than likely it was the former. If you look at Tatum and Brown, you see how much skilled they became from working w/ Kyrie when he was there.


Kyrie might have the biggest disconnect between how fans feel about him and how other players do. Players generally like Kyrie a lot...even in Boston when chit got bad


This is so true. The entire narrative when he left was the drama would end but then the whole Kemba situation happened. Even with all that Kyrie can definitely add a tank of fuel to the smallest of fires
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Re: Shams: Kyrie Irving, Nets are at impasse in conversations about his future in Brooklyn 

Post#67 » by dc » Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:17 pm

It would be good to know exactly what the impasse is all about. Is it total amount of money/years, a player or team option, or is it that the Nets want to make the contract incentive laden and related to number of games played, how far the team advances, etc....?

And I agree with what others have said: the Nets wouldn't be taking this kind of stance w/o having some level of support from KD (even though he's signed long term).
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Re: Shams: Kyrie Irving, Nets are at impasse in conversations about his future in Brooklyn 

Post#68 » by OkcSinceSGA » Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:17 pm

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Re: Shams: Kyrie Irving, Nets are at impasse in conversations about his future in Brooklyn 

Post#69 » by DrCoach » Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:18 pm

Kyrie is also Impasse about passing the Ball
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Re: Shams: Kyrie Irving, Nets are at impasse in conversations about his future in Brooklyn 

Post#70 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:26 pm

Hello Brooklyn wrote:Are we sure Kyrie is still trying to win?

I'm not so sure anymore. He might just want checks now.

Plus DC is a short train ride back to NJ where his family is.

I'm not saying it has any chance of happening. Just an idea.

I'm not an east coast person....so a dumb question..... Do rich people ride trains? If not, is it close enough driving where it makes a difference? Like Google says 4.5 hours driving but I could imagine driving is hell through there. At that point, you could just say play in Milwaukee or a city with direct flights to Neward and you would probably get there just as quickly.
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Post#71 » by dribble1614 » Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:34 pm

durant/simmons and elite role players is a title contender. they certainly don't need kyrie as he is an incredibly overrated player, proven by how most teams that get better once he leaves.
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Post#72 » by Gert42 » Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:38 pm

JujitsuFlip wrote:I wonder how likely it is he just hangs it up if he can't play with KD and/or in his "home" market (Nets or Knicks)?


0%. Kyrie wants to get paid.
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Post#73 » by Mr.Raptorsingh » Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:43 pm

Had a hunch he would not return with Brooklyn. LeBron probably trying to trade for him.
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Post#74 » by dockingsched » Mon Jun 20, 2022 9:08 pm

Giving Kyrie a max deal and giving the nets the assets they’d need to facilitate a sign n trade is something only a desperate or stupid franchise would do. He’s not going to the clippers cause they’re neither of those two, guess they can prove us wrong though.

Lakers are definitely desperate.
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Re: Shams: Kyrie Irving, Nets are at impasse in conversations about his future in Brooklyn 

Post#75 » by thamadkant » Mon Jun 20, 2022 9:20 pm

Roger Murdock wrote:The best and simplest trade

1 for 1

Kyrie for Fox

Kings can play the ‘win now let’s make the playoffs’ game

Kyrie can do whatever the hell he wants playing for a franchise that nobody pays attention to

Fox can fit in well with a run and gun team with shooting


Teams just then let Simmons and Fox take mid range shots all game and wait 48 minutes for the win.
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Re: Shams: Kyrie Irving, Nets are at impasse in conversations about his future in Brooklyn 

Post#76 » by Nate505 » Mon Jun 20, 2022 9:22 pm

This guy is one of the biggest franchise cancers I've ever seen.
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Re: Shams: Kyrie Irving, Nets are at impasse in conversations about his future in Brooklyn 

Post#77 » by JujitsuFlip » Mon Jun 20, 2022 9:28 pm

Gert42 wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:I wonder how likely it is he just hangs it up if he can't play with KD and/or in his "home" market (Nets or Knicks)?


0%. Kyrie wants to get paid.
Are we sure anyone wants to do that?
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Post#78 » by DavidSterned » Mon Jun 20, 2022 9:29 pm

dribble1614 wrote:durant/simmons and elite role players is a title contender. they certainly don't need kyrie as he is an incredibly overrated player, proven by how most teams that get better once he leaves.


Right, it's really odd that people continue to overlook this simply because the dude plays flashy.

This past season was a perfect example. For all the talk about how he ruined the Nets season by not playing, there is some actual evidence to the contrary. They were 30-23 without him and 14-15 with him playing last season, and then 0-4 in the playoffs. And this fits the pattern of most of his career, where he never demonstrably raises the floor of his teams and in some cases doesn't really raise the ceiling either (Boston/Brooklyn).
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Re: Shams: Kyrie Irving, Nets are at impasse in conversations about his future in Brooklyn 

Post#79 » by Lou Fan » Mon Jun 20, 2022 9:32 pm

LeBron could never dream of achieving this level of fückery and toxicity the (former) student has really become the master
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Re: Shams: Kyrie Irving, Nets are at impasse in conversations about his future in Brooklyn 

Post#80 » by Hello Brooklyn » Mon Jun 20, 2022 9:42 pm

MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:Are we sure Kyrie is still trying to win?

I'm not so sure anymore. He might just want checks now.

Plus DC is a short train ride back to NJ where his family is.

I'm not saying it has any chance of happening. Just an idea.

I'm not an east coast person....so a dumb question..... Do rich people ride trains? If not, is it close enough driving where it makes a difference? Like Google says 4.5 hours driving but I could imagine driving is hell through there. At that point, you could just say play in Milwaukee or a city with direct flights to Neward and you would probably get there just as quickly.


Yes rich people take the Acela all the time. I've actually taken it before and ran into NBA players.

Acela will get you between in less than 3 hours.

Flying involves security, checking bags in. A lot of nonsense people don't want to deal with. The whole process will take 5+ hours.

Flight from Milwaukee would be much more of a hassle. And there are not nearly as many direct flights from Milwaukee-Newark as the constant flights/train from DC to Newark.

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