Shams: Kyrie Irving opting in

Zenzibar · Post #141 » by **Zenzibar** » Tue Jun 21, 2022 11:51 am

durden_tyler wrote:
FeatheryTouch wrote:Kyrie to the Knicks please, just for the comedy(and drama).

The perfect fit, i agree.

Good Morning Fellas, I come in peace.

Bad-Thoma · Post #142 » by **Bad-Thoma** » Tue Jun 21, 2022 12:18 pm

svart wrote:
TheLand13 wrote:
SichtingLives wrote:Every marriage has it's up and downs, you don't just bail when times get tough. I'd like to see a 10-15 year extension worked out between the two sides, and let's be real, just hand the keys to Ky-genius and let him waft his magical sagebrush as player-coach-GM. Brooklyn is a fantastic franchise and Kyrie is a transmental talent. You hate to see these two split up over petty grievances. When Kyrie's cooking in the regular season he's one of the best 1 on 1 players in the game. Brooklyn would be nuts to let that go.

Okay, now let me take you into this world we like to call reality.

Irving has proven time and time again that he’ll put his own selfish needs over the team, to the point where he doesn’t care if that means he’s sitting out for a good portion of the season. His selfish actions not only complicated Brooklyns season and made it more difficult than it needed to be, but it drove James Harden away from the team, a guy who keep in mind the Nets gave up a multitude of assets for, including Jarrett Allen who just became an all star this season. Now they’re stuck with the contract of Ben Simmons who didn’t play at all last year and we don’t know what he’ll be like when he’s back.

Meanwhile, transmental talent? The guy doesn’t have a clue as to how to run an offense. He’s an awful defender. His scoring prowess does not make up for these things. He may be a terrific one on one player, but he makes his teams worse when he’s out there playing. If he’s not having a terrific scoring night on great efficiency, he is hurting your team. That’s not a guy who is worth keeping around.

i think he was ironic

I love that anyone read "transmental" and "10-15 year extension" and didn't feel the sarcasm.

markjay · Post #143 » by **markjay** » Tue Jun 21, 2022 12:24 pm

Purch wrote:Is there some team that's not currently a contender that would become one with the addition of Kyrie?

Like the only thing missing on the roster is a scoring guard

Yes, the Lakers

TravisScott55 · Post #144 » by **TravisScott55** » Tue Jun 21, 2022 12:24 pm

All this just for him to get signed to a 4 year deal just less than the max

HeartBreakKid · Post #145 » by **HeartBreakKid** » Tue Jun 21, 2022 12:33 pm

OKCfanSinceSGA wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:
MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:I'm not an east coast person....so a dumb question..... Do rich people ride trains? If not, is it close enough driving where it makes a difference? Like Google says 4.5 hours driving but I could imagine driving is hell through there. At that point, you could just say play in Milwaukee or a city with direct flights to Neward and you would probably get there just as quickly.

Yes rich people take the Acela all the time. I've actually taken it before and ran into NBA players.

Acela will get you between in less than 3 hours.

Flying involves security, checking bags in. A lot of nonsense people don't want to deal with. The whole process will take 5+ hours.

Flight from Milwaukee would be much more of a hassle. And there are not nearly as many direct flights from Milwaukee-Newark as the constant flights/train from DC to Newark.

Trains have WAY, WAY more nonsense going on in NY than flights lol. I'd rather check a bag for a plane than deal with people on trains in that region.

more nonsense on trains...? you sit on a train until it's your stop.

I dont even know what the "dealing with people on trains in that region" thing means. Just like...dont' talk to anyone because no one is certainly going out of there way to talk to you.

Maybe you dont know the difference between a highspeed rail and a subway, but there is a gigantic difference.

Americans really need to learn more about public transit.

Zvaart · Post #146 » by **Zvaart** » Tue Jun 21, 2022 12:36 pm

markjay wrote:
Purch wrote:Is there some team that's not currently a contender that would become one with the addition of Kyrie?

Like the only thing missing on the roster is a scoring guard

Yes, the Lakers

Still praying to God, Satan, Shiva and Iron Man for a Russ/Kyrie swap. it would be pure comedy.

Purch · Post #147 » by **Purch** » Tue Jun 21, 2022 1:08 pm

markjay wrote:
Purch wrote:Is there some team that's not currently a contender that would become one with the addition of Kyrie?

Like the only thing missing on the roster is a scoring guard

Yes, the Lakers

I'm curious about this. With all the complaining about Westbrook, the biggest issue with the Lakers is that they couldn't defend. They were 28th in points allowed.

I don't think Kyrie improves their defense. But he does improve their offense. I'm not really sure if he moves the needle enough for them to be contenders

RyderMike · Post #148 » by **RyderMike** » Tue Jun 21, 2022 1:10 pm

og15 wrote:Wizards though? ... Kyrie is 30, what is he planning to accomplish there?

Kyrie at press conference after joining Wizards.

"Now that I'm in DC, I plan to sit down with Joe (Biden) and work on managing this country together"

BK_2020 · Post #149 » by **BK_2020** » Tue Jun 21, 2022 1:16 pm

Purch wrote:
markjay wrote:
Purch wrote:Is there some team that's not currently a contender that would become one with the addition of Kyrie?

Like the only thing missing on the roster is a scoring guard

Yes, the Lakers

I'm curious about this. With all the complaining about Westbrook, the biggest issue with the Lakers is that they couldn't defend. They were 28th in points allowed.

I don't think Kyrie improves their defense. But he does improve their offense. I'm not really sure if he moves the needle enough for them to be contenders

Westbrook doesn't defend.

KnicksGadfly · Post #150 » by **KnicksGadfly** » Tue Jun 21, 2022 1:40 pm

Maybe they should fire Nash and just pay Kyrie to coach too?

“ESPN's Stephen A. Smith reported on Monday's First Take that Kyrie Irving would hold his own practices during the 2021-22 season.

"Did you know that this brother Kyrie Irving last season would conduct his own practices?" he said. "So when Steve Nash had the team on the floor, and they practiced, they would finish and he'd go and get five guys and conduct his own practice. ... Do you have any idea how disrespectful that is to Steve Nash?"

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10039275-espn-kyrie-irving-would-hold-his-own-practices-with-nets-after-steve-nashs-practice

zshawn10 · Post #151 » by **zshawn10** » Tue Jun 21, 2022 1:50 pm

On the latest episode of The Hoop Collective Podcast (starts at 3:10 mark), ESPN's Brian Windhorst reported there is a perception from people in the NBA that Irving's camp is attempting to create leverage by making it known he will be willing to test the marketplace in free agency.

On Tuesday's episode of Brian Windhorst & The Hoop Collective, ESPN NBA insider Brian Windhorst said he has heard the Nets don't want to pay Irving a "long, massive contract that's fully guaranteed."

https://open.spotify.com/episode/3luF1mo4GuX6ECGoEFD0xC

GTR11 · Post #152 » by **GTR11** » Tue Jun 21, 2022 2:01 pm

zshawn10 wrote:On the latest episode of The Hoop Collective Podcast (starts at 3:10 mark), ESPN's Brian Windhorst reported there is a perception from people in the NBA that Irving's camp is attempting to create leverage by making it known he will be willing to test the marketplace in free agency.

On Tuesday's episode of Brian Windhorst & The Hoop Collective, ESPN NBA insider Brian Windhorst said he has heard the Nets don't want to pay Irving a "long, massive contract that's fully guaranteed."

https://open.spotify.com/episode/3luF1mo4GuX6ECGoEFD0xC

That's the thing. Kyrie wants full max before new CBA kicks in. Which GM willing to sacrifice his job for Kyrie :lol:

. Since NYK can't sign him outright, i hope Marks willing to work with them and get couple 1st rounders.

amcoolio · Post #153 » by **amcoolio** » Tue Jun 21, 2022 2:04 pm

Kyrie has been a cancer everywhere he has been, including Duke, except once when LeBron was able to wrangle him in just long enough to get one good season and a championship out of him before it further inflated Kyrie's toxic ego. Why would anyone want this guy? He's not a winning player. It's time people look at him like they look at Westbrook.

Nets should just let him go if they can't find a trade partner.

matt6715 · Post #154 » by **matt6715** » Tue Jun 21, 2022 2:57 pm

Kyrie getting a 1+1 or 2+1 and staying with the Nets is my guess

makubesu · Post #155 » by **makubesu** » Tue Jun 21, 2022 3:10 pm

matt6715 wrote:Kyrie getting a 1+1 or 2+1 and staying with the Nets is my guess

Nets are leaking some hit pieces now, it might be impossible to stay

MrGoat · Post #156 » by **MrGoat** » Tue Jun 21, 2022 3:22 pm

Read on Twitter

JujitsuFlip · Post #157 » by **JujitsuFlip** » Tue Jun 21, 2022 3:27 pm

MrGoat wrote:

Read on Twitter

Perfect perspective lol time for these dudes to split.

SuperPawgHunter · Post #158 » by **SuperPawgHunter** » Tue Jun 21, 2022 3:36 pm

Bad-Thoma wrote:
svart wrote:
TheLand13 wrote:
Okay, now let me take you into this world we like to call reality.

Irving has proven time and time again that he’ll put his own selfish needs over the team, to the point where he doesn’t care if that means he’s sitting out for a good portion of the season. His selfish actions not only complicated Brooklyns season and made it more difficult than it needed to be, but it drove James Harden away from the team, a guy who keep in mind the Nets gave up a multitude of assets for, including Jarrett Allen who just became an all star this season. Now they’re stuck with the contract of Ben Simmons who didn’t play at all last year and we don’t know what he’ll be like when he’s back.

Meanwhile, transmental talent? The guy doesn’t have a clue as to how to run an offense. He’s an awful defender. His scoring prowess does not make up for these things. He may be a terrific one on one player, but he makes his teams worse when he’s out there playing. If he’s not having a terrific scoring night on great efficiency, he is hurting your team. That’s not a guy who is worth keeping around.

i think he was ironic

I love that anyone read "transmental" and "10-15 year extension" and didn't feel the sarcasm.

He just wanted to tear into Kyrie. Nothing else mattered. :lol:

SuperPawgHunter · Post #159 » by **SuperPawgHunter** » Tue Jun 21, 2022 3:40 pm

amcoolio wrote:
Nets should just let him go .

Yeah. You probably won't have any GM jobs in your future. :lol:

What "genius" allows 27ppg on near 50/40/90 splits just walk for nothing? You dangle that carrot until you find a taker. Someone will bite.

Flash4thewin · Post #160 » by **Flash4thewin** » Tue Jun 21, 2022 3:43 pm

sp6r=underrated wrote:
Pennebaker wrote:
sp6r=underrated wrote:
I'm far from a Kyrie fan and agree with you he's overrated. But both the advanced box score stats and advanced on/off stats tell a similar story he's a pretty good player at his best far from the ATG people think he is. He is a very strong offensive player but never best in the league quality. And he is an atrocious defender. A lot of that is due to innate limitations: he's small and physically weak.

Kyrie is good enough to out-duel and out-perform a legend like Steph Curry in the NBA Finals so he's a little bit better than "a pretty good player." Kyrie can beat and embarrass Steph 1 on 1 any day of the week so you're sleeping on his credentials. In terms of talent, Kyrie is easily one of the most talented players in history.

NBA basketball isn't played 1 on 1 so 1 on 1 skills are irrelevant.

Please explain that to Kobe fans :roll: