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Re: 22 Draft 

Post#141 » by G R E Y » Tue Jun 21, 2022 5:53 pm

The Kings continue to receive plenty of trade interest for the No. 4 selection, where the Pacers, Knicks, San Antonio Spurs and Washington Wizards and others have made efforts to leapfrog in the lottery. Of those teams, it's believed the Pacers and Spurs are targeting Iowa forward Keegan Murray, while New York and Washington have their sights set on Purdue combo guard Jaden Ivey.

Rival teams are prepared for Sacramento to gauge all trade interest up until the Kings are on the clock. If there's a surprise pick in the top three, Sacramento could receive a flurry of offers from teams that covet one of the star big men in the class.

Several teams picking behind the Kings are also preparing for Sacramento to select Murray if it remains at No. 4 and the top three picks unfold with no surprises.

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More wind to fan the Spurs interest in Murray flickers.

Not sure how this makes sense, though. Kings reportedly love Murray, took him to dinner with current players, so why would they trade the pick to teams that want to draft him at 4 when they can choose him themselves. Usually you trade down to secure assets while getting the player you really want. So either they have at least a couple of players they're comfortable with, or perhaps the Spurs interest is a bit of smoke itself.
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Re: 22 Draft 

Post#142 » by G R E Y » Tue Jun 21, 2022 5:59 pm

Interesting. So some mocks have us taking Davis as "BPA" at 9 with how their mocks are shaping (or being shaped by the respective sites) while others have Davis dropping (I think Sharpe will, too, but it only takes one team) while Eason in late lottery is actually him going up in mocks. If we like him, we'll have to either trade back or up or take him at 9 (too early, I now feel) to really throw the draft a curve ball.

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Re: 22 Draft 

Post#143 » by G R E Y » Tue Jun 21, 2022 6:11 pm

WORKOUT: Jaylin Williams | Our List of Draft Prospects

Jaylin Williams is a hard working do-it-all center who has great intangibles and makes winning plays. His impact on the game doesn’t always show up on the stat sheet but he’s a high level prospect who has NBA scouts attention.

Jaylin thinks the game at a high level and is a really heady defender. He’s solid one on one and also offers great help defense (and draws a ton of charges). He has quick hands and a knack for swiping the ball and is a decent rim protector as well, although he’s a bit undersized by NBA standards.

Jaylin isn’t a player who needs the ball in his hands much and is very effective at setting screens and playing team offense, without the need to look for his shot. He’s a solid offensive rebounder an a good overall glue-guy who does the dirty work.

He has good mobility and gets up and down the court well. Has decent feet and does a good job of guarding out in space.

Shows promise to become a capable floor spacer in time. Has pretty good shooting form and is starting to expand his range.

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Re: 22 Draft 

Post#144 » by G R E Y » Tue Jun 21, 2022 6:38 pm

WORKOUT: Peyton Watson | Our List of Draft Prospects

Payton Watson is a long, wiry high-upside athlete with all the tools to make it in the League. He’s a high flyer, a great dunker and a lethal transition player.

Watson had a tough freshman season at UCLA, seeing limited playing time on a veteran-laden team but NBA teams will be looking at his athletic upside and what he could become a few years down the line.

Watson really get after it defensively, showing the ability to guard 1-4 and switch everything on the perimeter. His value in the NBA could come from his ability to guard some of the most talented wings in the league.

He’s a great transition player who runs the court like a deer and can really get up and finish above the rim.

In the half court Watson can handle the ball up top and make plays off the dribble. He’s mostly a straight line driver who uses his quickness, length and long strides to blow by defenders and get to the rim. He’s got the makings of a good jump shot but is pretty far away from being a knock down shooter at this point.

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Re: 22 Draft 

Post#145 » by G R E Y » Tue Jun 21, 2022 6:45 pm

WORKOUT: A.J. Griffin | Our List of Draft Prospects

Son of the former NBA player by the same name, Jr. is a powerful wing/big guard who plays with intensity and brings it on both ends of the floor. After an elite shooting display this season AGJ is projected as a mid lottery to mid first round pick.

He has solid athleticism, a very strong frame and a ton of natural talent. Griffin is built like a linebacker with thick shoulders and sort of a low center of gravity.

One of the concerns with Griffin Jr. is that he doesn’t appear to have the same level of explosiveness as he had in high school, after suffering through a few injuries. He’s still a good athlete but not as twitchy or bouncy as he looked in the past.

Perhaps he can regain his form in the coming months/years as he puts those injuries in the rear view mirror.

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Re: 22 Draft 

Post#146 » by G R E Y » Tue Jun 21, 2022 7:16 pm

WORKOUT: Shaedon Sharpe | Our List of Draft Prospects

Sharpe is a big, quick, bouncy wing prospect with long arms and all the tools you want to see in a high level NBA prospect. After sitting out a season at Kentucky he projects as a possible top 4-10 pick in the 2022 draft.

Sharpe wasn’t a big name in high school basketball until the end of his career and has been flying up the rankings all the way to the no.1 overall spot in his class. He joined the Kentucky program mid season and didn’t play any minutes.

The first thing that stands out about Sharpe is his size. He’s got a very strong build with a lot of lower body strength and an overall very solid frame. He’s got ideal height for a wing with good length as well.

While I wouldn’t say he’s an elite level athlete Sharpe has all the tools to be elite at the next level. He’s got a quick first step and gets to the rim with ease and can really finish through contact.

He’s a great slasher and a good off ball cutter who always looks to take advantage of his nice finishing ability by making moves to the rim. He’s a ferocious dunker who can bring the house down with his monster dunking ability. Is very dangerous on backdoor cuts.

Sharpe is still developing his ball handling, play-making and outside shooting game but his progression over the years has been impressive and he’s well on his way to being a knockdown shooter. He also has the makings of a nice pull up jump shot and gets good rhythm with the dribble before rising up for the shot.

He’s not a pure shooter but shows a lot of promise and can be streaky hot at times.

Can play a little wild at times and over shoot the ball. His shot selection could use some work, but that should come when playing alongside NBA talent.

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Re: 22 Draft 

Post#147 » by G R E Y » Tue Jun 21, 2022 8:26 pm

WORKOUT: E.J. Liddell | Our List of Draft Prospects

E.J. Liddell is a bulky and powerful forward who is a load to handle in the paint and also is a threat to score from the perimeter. At 247lbs he’s got the size and power to hold is own in the lane, even against taller opponents and he fits the mold of a modern-day 4.

At just 6-7 he’s averaging over 2.5 blocks per game. He’s very springy and bouncy and gets off his feet quickly. Liddell does a great job of going vertical without fouling. He should be a productive shot blocker at the next level, despite being a bit undersized.

He’ also a versatile defender and solid rebounder who does a bit of everything on the court.

His much improved 3pt shot (38%) adds a lot to his value at the next level.

Liddell has improved every season at Ohio State and is moving up draft boards, with a good chance to be drafted mid first. He’s one of the more NBA ready players in the draft, bringing experience, work ethic and leadership, along with his ball skills.

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Re: 22 Draft 

Post#148 » by G R E Y » Tue Jun 21, 2022 8:46 pm

WORKOUT: Kenneth Lofton Jr. | Our List of Draft Prospects

Lofton Jr. is a bull on the low block who uses his frame to carve out space and punish defenders. He’s got a soft touch with either hand and a knack for getting his shot off in traffic.

An aggressive rebounder who loves to seek out contact, Lofton Jr. is a tone setter in the paint who can impose his will on the game.

At 6-7 and 275lbs he’s a low center of gravity player who will have some adjustments to make playing against NBA size. He’s not the most agile player and guarding NBA forwards and centers could prove challenging. He does have quick hands and a good feel for picking the ball clean.

After a dominate performance at the FIBA U19 World Cup he’s rising up draft boards and gaining traction as a NBA prospect.

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Re: 22 Draft 

Post#149 » by G R E Y » Tue Jun 21, 2022 9:00 pm

WORKOUT: Mark Williams | Our List of Draft Prospects

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After two season for the Blue Devils Mark Williams projects as a mid first round pick in the 2022 draft, possibly going in the late lottery. He’s an enforcer in the middle who protects the paint and changes the game with his size, length and defensive instincts.

Rebounds on the ball well and knows his role, as a rebounder and defender. Changes a ton of shots in the paints and can really lock down the rim. Does a great job of going vertical and not fouling – using his great length to alter shots without trying to swat everything into the stands.

Does a lot of his scoring on put-backs and dump offs around the rim. Will be a good lob threat at the next level. Dunks the ball with power and can go through defenders.

A solid FT shooter for a big, hitting 73% as a sophomore at Duke (also shot 72% from the field!).

Can be a bit heavy-footed and doesn’t change directions particularly well, which could lead to trouble defending against NBA speed and in pick and roll situations – although does shot good recovery speed getting back to defend the rim.

Has all the intangibles, work ethic and team-first mentality you can ask for. Really knows his role and excels at it.

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Re: 22 Draft 

Post#150 » by G R E Y » Tue Jun 21, 2022 9:18 pm

INTERVIEW: Jaden Hardy | Our List of Draft Prospects

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Jaden Hardy came into the G League season as a potential high lottery pick but after a subpar start to the season he fell down draft boards. Hardy did play well over the second half of the year and is regaining some traction as a late lottery to mid first round pick.

At about 6-5 he’s got decent size for the shooting guard position and has enough athleticism to hold his own – although he’s not a crazy bouncy or burst-y athlete.

He’s a good ball handler who can get to his spots and gets good separation on his perimeter jumpers. Can really dance with the ball and shake his man.

Hardy has deep range and is a high level shot maker. He can carry a team with his offensive ability, draining 3’s from the logo or breaking down the defense with the dribble and scoring from mid range or in the lane.

The flashes Hardy shows make him look like a top 10 pick but he needs to be much more consistent. He hit just 27% from 3 during his time in the G League and just 35% from the floor. He’s a better shooter than that and I think he could surprise at the next level.

In this very deep shooting guard class Hardy gets a big over-looked but has a chance to be a 20ppg scorer at some point in his career and could be steal if he falls much outside the lottery.

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Re: 22 Draft 

Post#151 » by G R E Y » Tue Jun 21, 2022 9:27 pm

Wait what?!

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Lowe says 9+Keldon "should" work for #4, not sure if that's what is being floated as an offer or a hypothetical by Lowe (I don't have time to listen to it) but if it is a whispered offer holy moly...
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Re: 22 Draft 

Post#152 » by kasrok » Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:16 pm

G R E Y wrote:Wait what?!

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Lowe says 9+Keldon "should" work for #4, not sure if that's what is being floated as an offer or a hypothetical by Lowe (I don't have time to listen to it) but if it is a whispered offer holy moly...


Let's do it! I have a feeling Mathurin will be out of the running by 9. Lets swing for Ivey!
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Re: 22 Draft 

Post#153 » by Wizop » Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:25 pm

kasrok wrote:Let's do it! I have a feeling Mathurin will be out of the running by 9. Lets swing for Ivey!


Is Maturin your target? you can get him by trading up to 6. you also have enough cap room to absorb Brogdon and more firsts than you want to exercise. I still think there's a deal to be made between the Spurs and the Pacers.
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Re: 22 Draft 

Post#154 » by G R E Y » Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:35 pm

Some pre-draft thoughts:

Assuming we're done with meeting draft prospects, we've interviewed and worked out about 45 -- that we know of. There's some speculation whether we talked to Dieng. He reportedly said he didn't meet with us though Tom Orsborn tweeted that Eason, Davis, and Dieng would have interviews and since we talked to the other two, I understood Dieng as having done so as well rather than just generally being available for talking to. Anyway, I'm sure we've done our due diligence.

Here's a broad breakdown:

Prospects returning to college - Pete Nance and Terquavion Smith

Prospects we worked out twice - Darius Days

- Josh Minott (Thanks, mzfk69!)

Prospects we interviewed and worked out - Johnny Davis

- Jeremy Sochan

- Tari Eason

As much as we may loathe another guard, the reality is that we may be losing some through free agency or trades. And if the best prospect at wherever we may be drafting who has the highest star potential happens to be a guard, well we get BPA and deal with the roster accordingly.

But speaking of trades, Collins is widely available - not a matter of if but when.

Say we trade Doug, JRich, 20 and 25 for Collins and 16 - this is just me spitballing not a specific rumour I've heard so it's not like it has some legs. Just playing around with trade ideas. Hawks get shorter contracts, players who move well without the ball, can shoot well around Trae, and JRich can defend. They also get a couple of firsts.

We now have 9 and 16 and have a true starting PF who can score inside and out.

(Is that package better suited to try and pry the more expensive Ayton instead? Depends on what we could get for Jakob, I suppose, though he may be part of an Ayton swap and the combination of assets mentioned for Collins could be packaged for other assets, be it help now or picks later).

We can either draft whomever we love at 9 and 16 (Eason?) or package both plus likely another asset to get up to 4. I'm not sure I buy the rumours of our love affair with Murray. Even without Collins and should we use more of those assets for a move up in the draft instead to target a higher floor guy in Murray feels more like smoke to get another team to bite. Or we really love him and see a higher potential than, say, Ivey, who is Ja lite. Or we draft Ivey and either keep him or trade him to a team that really covets him for players and assets (2023 pick(s)) we covet more.

Speaking of 2023 assets, I'd be shocked if we parted with Keldon and 9 for 4. Keldon I'd hate to move unless it's for high 2023 picks and whichever prospect. It's interesting, though, that we worked out bruising Darius Days twice and two of the three the players we worked out and interviewed are more physical bigs in Sochan and Eason.

So many options!

For sure we have holes in the roster and need to balance it out; for sure we have some players who are trade bait and with Wiesy and Primo coming up, Doug and JRich are good candidates. I think Lonnie is, too, and whichever way things develop with his RFA status, he isn't part of our long-term plans. For sure we're star hunting. If it takes steps now to get there later (ie/ Collins and 2023 picks) we roll with a better, more talented roster into this upcoming season.
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Re: 22 Draft 

Post#155 » by G R E Y » Wed Jun 22, 2022 4:19 pm

Agree 100%! (character fit always, of course) :clap:

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lol and we reportedly had one of the largest groups at the Combine! Probably why he opted for a zoom - the most efficient method to communicate. And you could use filters (jk):
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Is this a 'keeping our picks' hint?
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Interesting...
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Re: 22 Draft 

Post#156 » by kasrok » Wed Jun 22, 2022 4:31 pm

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kasrok wrote:Let's do it! I have a feeling Mathurin will be out of the running by 9. Lets swing for Ivey!


Is Maturin your target? you can get him by trading up to 6. you also have enough cap room to absorb Brogdon and more firsts than you want to exercise. I still think there's a deal to be made between the Spurs and the Pacers.


Yeah I am hoping he falls to us but I don't mind trading up to get the guy we want. I root for pac-12 so I got to see a good amount of Benji and i think he has star potential
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Re: 22 Draft 

Post#157 » by mzfk69 » Wed Jun 22, 2022 4:43 pm

G R E Y wrote:Prospects we worked out twice - Darius Days

Saw on twitter that Josh Minott too
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Re: 22 Draft 

Post#158 » by G R E Y » Wed Jun 22, 2022 5:24 pm

mzfk69 wrote:
G R E Y wrote:Prospects we worked out twice - Darius Days

Saw on twitter that Josh Minott too

Oh! If you can find it, I'd appreciate it, thanks!

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Re: 22 Draft 

Post#159 » by G R E Y » Wed Jun 22, 2022 10:47 pm

WORKOUT: Kennedy Chandler | Our List of Draft Prospects

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He’s already worked out for several teams in the teens, including the Hawks, Hornets, Cavaliers, Rockets, Bulls, and the Bucks and Spurs in the 20s.

https://hoopshype.com/lists/nba-draft-kennedy-chandler-interview-chris-paul-jeff-teague-comparison/

Kennedy Chandler is an up-tempo guard who can score the rock and is also a dynamic playmaker for his teammates. He’s tough and fearless and willing to take on all challenges.

He doesn’t have a lot of size but he’s strong and can play above the rim, thanks to his top shelf athleticism.

Chandler is a winner and the type of lead guard who teammates love to go into battle with. His up tempo style and smart decision making is infectious and leads to a lot of wins.

https://nbadraftroom.com/p/kennedy-chandler/



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Re: 22 Draft 

Post#160 » by G R E Y » Wed Jun 22, 2022 11:10 pm

Are we really though? I mean I get crafty finishing at the rim with a left hand and all, but that hardly merits the Manu comp on nbadraftroom.com. Anyway, wind either ignites a fire or puts it out. We'll soon see which way these whispers move:
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He is, however, the only guard we both interviewed and worked out (as far as is known publicly). In fairness to Davis, here's a more comprehensive context-driven deeper look at his game:
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