We Need To Discuss The State Of The Phoenix Suns

OrangeBlueSkies · Post #1 » by **OrangeBlueSkies** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:24 am

I'm not trying to open up a can of worms here, but this whole idea that their owner won't spend to keep the core together is insanity to me. How long before Booker wants out? Chris Paul does not have much tread left on his tires... They are about to lose Ayton & also reading this tweet which Mikal Bridges responded to with "me too."

Kellan Olson@KellanOlson

If Cam Johnson gets dealt for tax relief I’m dropping off the grid and moving to a small fishing village in Estonia11:48 AM · Jun 21, 2022

I know Sarver is a terrible owner, but he's going to lose Book. btw im so NOT savvy with social media but i know one of my realgm boys will paste the actual tweet with the Mikal reply. thanks in advance

hoosierdaddy34 · Post #2 » by **hoosierdaddy34** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:35 am

Well currently it’s Arizona, unless you know something that I don’t.

What would you like to know about Arizona other than Tombstone is overrated?

Hook_Em · Post #3 » by **Hook_Em** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:37 am

It starts at the top. If owners don’t do whatever it takes to win they shouldn’t buy pro teams. The franchise value grew every year the Suns we’re winning 20 games a year. Sarver runs like his business a banker which is literally where made his fortune.

LAL1947 · Post #4 » by **LAL1947** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:53 am

OrangeBlueSkies wrote:Kellan Olson@KellanOlson

If Cam Johnson gets dealt for tax relief I’m dropping off the grid and moving to a small fishing village in Estonia

I think the key question here is, does Estonia want Kellan Olson? :lol:

Sounds like he's making up imaginary scenarios like Chicken Little and riling himself up with them... no?

Big J · Post #5 » by **Big J** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:56 am

I think we’re going to hear more about the workplace issues soon and hopefully big penalties to Sarver. Hopefully he’s forced out, and the team can rebuild.

meekrab · Post #6 » by **meekrab** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:57 am

Well Booker isn't the reason they're winning so not a big loss. Losing Ayton and/or Bridges would be a traveshamockery of franchise-running, though.

AussieCeltic · Post #7 » by **AussieCeltic** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:57 am

Read on Twitter

sp6r=underrated · Post #8 » by **sp6r=underrated** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:59 am

Crappy owners can destroy franchises. The Clippers were a joke franchise that players hated playing for despite being in Los Angeles. Dolan has kept the Knicks in the toilet for decades despite the franchise having massive advantages.

Phoenix isn't Utah but it ain't Los Angeles either. His run already includes the worst stretch of Phoenix Suns basketball, 10 straight missed playoffs. His cheapness cost the Suns a potential dynasty in the aughts. It may end up dismantling the Suns current strong team. If I was a Suns fan, I'd be very worried.

NZB2323 · Post #9 » by **NZB2323** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 4:08 am

He sold the draft rights of Luol Deng, Rajon Rondo, and Rudy Fernandez for cash. He could have added those players to the Suns team that had Nash, Amare, and Marion.

Post #10 » by **tsherkin** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 4:12 am

NZB2323 wrote:He sold the draft rights of Luol Deng, Rajon Rondo, and Rudy Fernandez for cash. He could have added those players to the Suns team that had Nash, Amare, and Marion.

Rondo would have been garbage for them (except as a tradeable asset, I suppose), but the idea of Luol Deng on that team is frustrating. He could have added such value to them, for sure. And Rudy Fernandez was nothing, so I don't know that he would have been any kind of valuable.

Lalouie · Post #11 » by **Lalouie** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 4:21 am

hoosierdaddy34 wrote:Well currently it’s Arizona, unless you know something that I don’t.

What would you like to know about Arizona other than Tombstone is overrated?

scuse me but odysea is UNDERRATED

Pelon chingon · Post #12 » by **Pelon chingon** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 4:21 am

First they have to accept their huge L wasn't a fluke of any kind. Their success was largely tied to an aging cp3 who did what he does in clutch moments. Not a horrible time to pull the plug IMO they can get assets for their guys right now.

azcatz11 · Post #13 » by **azcatz11** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 4:24 am

Lalouie wrote:
hoosierdaddy34 wrote:Well currently it’s Arizona, unless you know something that I don’t.

What would you like to know about Arizona other than Tombstone is overrated?

scuse me but odysea is UNDERRATED

There's no more dolphins anymore...a few died a couple of years ago.

SinceGatlingWasARookie · Post #14 » by **SinceGatlingWasARookie** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 4:38 am

If the Suns want to win rather than cut costs then get a better back up point guard.

Post #15 » by **The Rebel** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 4:40 am

Pelon chingon wrote:First they have to accept their huge L wasn't a fluke of any kind. Their success was largely tied to an aging cp3 who did what he does in clutch moments. Not a horrible time to pull the plug IMO they can get assets for their guys right now.

What? They would be idiots to tear down a team that was just in the 2nd round a year after the finals trip.

God Squad · Post #16 » by **God Squad** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 4:43 am

They realistically had like 2-3 year championship window. They're right on course IMO, because I never saw it as much more than that.

Lalouie · Post #17 » by **Lalouie** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 4:54 am

azcatz11 wrote:
Lalouie wrote:
hoosierdaddy34 wrote:Well currently it’s Arizona, unless you know something that I don’t.

What would you like to know about Arizona other than Tombstone is overrated?

scuse me but odysea is UNDERRATED

There's no more dolphins anymore...a few died a couple of years ago.

sad. we didn't go this time around

sp6r=underrated · Post #18 » by **sp6r=underrated** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 5:02 am

tsherkin wrote:
NZB2323 wrote:He sold the draft rights of Luol Deng, Rajon Rondo, and Rudy Fernandez for cash. He could have added those players to the Suns team that had Nash, Amare, and Marion.

Rondo would have been garbage for them (except as a tradeable asset, I suppose), but the idea of Luol Deng on that team is frustrating. He could have added such value to them, for sure. And Rudy Fernandez was nothing, so I don't know that he would have been any kind of valuable.

being cheap is a problem even if you question the value of the names listed.

WarFan · Post #19 » by **WarFan** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 5:30 am

Trading an established 3 and D switchable wing on his rookie contract to save money might be the dumbest effing thing i've ever heard. That be can't true.

But Sarver... :banghead:

Pennebaker · Post #20 » by **Pennebaker** » Wed Jun 22, 2022 7:08 am

OrangeBlueSkies wrote:I'm not trying to open up a can of worms here, but this whole idea that their owner won't spend to keep the core together is insanity to me. How long before Booker wants out? Chris Paul does not have much tread left on his tires... They are about to lose Ayton & also reading this tweet which Mikal Bridges responded to with "me too."

Kellan Olson@KellanOlson

If Cam Johnson gets dealt for tax relief I’m dropping off the grid and moving to a small fishing village in Estonia11:48 AM · Jun 21, 2022

I know Sarver is a terrible owner, but he's going to lose Book. btw im so NOT savvy with social media but i know one of my realgm boys will paste the actual tweet with the Mikal reply. thanks in advance

That core shouldn't be kept together in my opinion because they regressed from the previous year. And it was a significant drop off.

They're heading in the wrong direction, in other words.

A sharp owner either in business or in sports will want to adapt immediately and not waste years to wait for further proof that they're heading in the wrong direction.