Keegan Murray

[SeattleJazzFan]

I have one question and one thought.

Thought: Keegan Murray stuffed the stat sheets. He has no huge warts despite age (and relative average/questionable efforts on defense). I wouldn't be too surprised if he blows up like an older prospects like Donovan Mitchell (not sure why my mind went to DoMi)

Question: What makes him different from Brandon Clarke? Who had equally good advanced stats, and turned out pretty okay? But not a gangbuster type of prospect. If Keegan turns out to be a Kuzma, is that we the Kings would want to go for at the #5 pick?

what makes him different than brandon clarke? i mean, the most obvious and biggest difference is that murray can shoot.

[zeebneeb]

I'm hoping for Murray at 6th to the Pacers. I'm all in on this guy.

I honestly don't see how, unless the Pacers make a deal to get to 4, end up with Murray.

Kings select Ivey, Pistons select Murray.

Kings select Murray, Pistons select Ivey.

An unexpected jump(Ivey goes top 3)could shake it up a touch, but it there would have to be a second jump.(Sharpe)

[Adg1987]

I think Detroit will happily take Murray at 5. I cannot see the Kings passing on Ivey, if they do they will take Murray, but I do doubt it. I only see Ivey maybe jumping in to the top 3 with one of the 3 bigs dropping to 4, but I am not sure who. Kings would be happy if it was Chet given Sabonas and him have the Gonzaga connection but it is doubful

[buzzkilloton]

Murray has future Sac King written all over him

[JRoy]

Murray has future Sac King written all over him

AJ Griffin looks like a SAC pick to me.

[tester551]

Murray has future Sac King written all over him

Murray would be perfect for the Kings. He likely will be ROY

[BostonCouchGM]

Murray has future Sac King written all over him

He seems like a great fit. I like Davis for them as well. They need a shooter and bucket getter when they're not running the Fox/Sabonis two-man game. Both Murray and Davis fit that bill with their ability to play on/off ball and score at all three levels. Murray has better size so I think he'd be the pick and it makes perfect sense. Fox-Murray-Sabonis is a potential formidable Big Three. With Mitchell coming off the bench in the Marcus Smart role they could finally be exciting to watch.

[BostonCouchGM]

I have one question and one thought.

Thought: Keegan Murray stuffed the stat sheets. He has no huge warts despite age (and relative average/questionable efforts on defense). I wouldn't be too surprised if he blows up like an older prospects like Donovan Mitchell (not sure why my mind went to DoMi)

Question: What makes him different from Brandon Clarke? Who had equally good advanced stats, and turned out pretty okay? But not a gangbuster type of prospect. If Keegan turns out to be a Kuzma, is that we the Kings would want to go for at the #5 pick?

he's nothing like Clarke in any way shape or form. Clarke is a high energy, switchable defender with quick hops but he's an undersized 4/5. Murray is a 3 with great size and offense who can play the 4.

[God Squad]

I have one question and one thought.

Thought: Keegan Murray stuffed the stat sheets. He has no huge warts despite age (and relative average/questionable efforts on defense). I wouldn't be too surprised if he blows up like an older prospects like Donovan Mitchell (not sure why my mind went to DoMi)

Question: What makes him different from Brandon Clarke? Who had equally good advanced stats, and turned out pretty okay? But not a gangbuster type of prospect. If Keegan turns out to be a Kuzma, is that we the Kings would want to go for at the #5 pick?

he's nothing like Clarke in any way shape or form. Clarke is a high energy, switchable defender with quick hops but he's an undersized 4/5. Murray is a 3 with great size and offense who can play the 4.

I understand the Clarke comparisons are off, but he also mentioned Kuzma who's play style is somewhat similar. Which IMO not worth a top 5 pick.

[God Squad]

I have one question and one thought.

Thought: Keegan Murray stuffed the stat sheets. He has no huge warts despite age (and relative average/questionable efforts on defense). I wouldn't be too surprised if he blows up like an older prospects like Donovan Mitchell (not sure why my mind went to DoMi)

Question: What makes him different from Brandon Clarke? Who had equally good advanced stats, and turned out pretty okay? But not a gangbuster type of prospect. If Keegan turns out to be a Kuzma, is that we the Kings would want to go for at the #5 pick?

what makes him different than brandon clarke? i mean, the most obvious and biggest difference is that murray can shoot.

Bad Clarke comparison. But this one isn't so off.

[CptCrunch]

Just fyi, I'm only putting Clark out there due to their shared BPM production (and size) because one argument for Murray is that despite all his warts, he was too productive in college. Clark was also "too" productive. Clarke looking like a decent role player in the league.

16.3 Clarke vs 15.7 Murray BPM

I am just trying to envision a pathway through which Murray blows up into a star.

[SeattleJazzFan]

I have one question and one thought.

Thought: Keegan Murray stuffed the stat sheets. He has no huge warts despite age (and relative average/questionable efforts on defense). I wouldn't be too surprised if he blows up like an older prospects like Donovan Mitchell (not sure why my mind went to DoMi)

Question: What makes him different from Brandon Clarke? Who had equally good advanced stats, and turned out pretty okay? But not a gangbuster type of prospect. If Keegan turns out to be a Kuzma, is that we the Kings would want to go for at the #5 pick?

what makes him different than brandon clarke? i mean, the most obvious and biggest difference is that murray can shoot.

Bad Clarke comparison. But this one isn't so off.

the kuzma comp is fine as they do have similar skillsets - though murray is much better in the post and in the paint in general than kuzma was. either way despite similar skillsets, it's silly to assume murray can't be significantly better than kuzma.

similar skillsets =/= same player.

[baldur]

Seems like no third destination for him. It's either the pistons or the kings.

[Upperclass]

Seems like one of the worst players in the draft long-term.. Has no real high-level skills, and is an older prospect without elite athleticism. Teams would be drafting a backup combo forward at a top 5 pick, which is just.. wild

[Pelon chingon]

I dont understand why there isn't more hype around Murray the kid looks like he could be the most nba ready and has a high upside.

[Adg1987]

I dont understand why there isn't more hype around Murray the kid looks like he could be the most nba ready and has a high upside.

I definitely think he is the type of guy that can come in and win Rookie of the Year and average 17-20point immediately if given the opportunity. The fact is a good size wing is hard to find. The only issue I see with him is if he is too much of of a tweener but I feel like he will be a great player either way. Can he be a dominate player that you make the focal point of your team? I think that is where Ivey has him beat

As a Kings fan, I love the position they are in. I would personally not want them to draft any of the top 3 bigs. I feel like Murray and Ivey could be the two best players in the draft. Our GM the last two years IMO has drafted nicely. Hali and Mitchell were good picks even though they were both guards

[SeattleJazzFan]

Seems like one of the worst players in the draft long-term.. Has no real high-level skills, and is an older prospect without elite athleticism. Teams would be drafting a backup combo forward at a top 5 pick, which is just.. wild

is scoring a skill? is shooting a skill?

23.5 PPG with elite efficiency. 40% 3pt at 6'8".

call me crazy, but those seem like high level skills to me.

[Adg1987]

Seems like one of the worst players in the draft long-term.. Has no real high-level skills, and is an older prospect without elite athleticism. Teams would be drafting a backup combo forward at a top 5 pick, which is just.. wild

Strong take. What makes you think his skills won't translate? Anyone who shoots%55 from the field and %40 from 3 all while shooting 5 pointers a game has some offensive ability.

Personally 10-15 years ago, i would competely agree with you. In todays NBA though, he is a perfect 3/4 , especially in the positionless nba we have now. He probably be a modern day Antawn Jamison

[JRoy]

Seems like one of the worst players in the draft long-term.. Has no real high-level skills, and is an older prospect without elite athleticism. Teams would be drafting a backup combo forward at a top 5 pick, which is just.. wild

Strong take. What makes you think his skills won't translate? Anyone who shoots%55 from the field and %40 from 3 all while shooting 5 pointers a game has some offensive ability.

Personally 10-15 years ago, i would competely agree with you. In todays NBA though, he is a perfect 3/4 , especially in the positionless nba we have now. He probably be a modern day Antawn Jamison

I think he will be better than AJ on both ends. Time will tell.

[Adg1987]

Seems like one of the worst players in the draft long-term.. Has no real high-level skills, and is an older prospect without elite athleticism. Teams would be drafting a backup combo forward at a top 5 pick, which is just.. wild

Strong take. What makes you think his skills won't translate? Anyone who shoots%55 from the field and %40 from 3 all while shooting 5 pointers a game has some offensive ability.

Personally 10-15 years ago, i would competely agree with you. In todays NBA though, he is a perfect 3/4 , especially in the positionless nba we have now. He probably be a modern day Antawn Jamison

I think he will be better than AJ on both ends. Time will tell.

No doubt he could be. People forget some of the great years AJ had. Maybe he has less offensive efficacy, but less of a black hole type offensive player and hopefully a better defender